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Ask iLounge 7-31-09
By Jesse Hollington
Applications Editor, iLounge
Published: Friday, July 31, 2009
Category: Ask iLounge
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I am planning to buy an iPod. I already have the Microsoft Zune and am wondering if I can use both the Zune program and the iPod programs on one computer? Also, I already have about 62 GB of music and other media content on my computer (in the Zune program library) and on my Zune player; can I keep that library intact and copy everything onto both the iTunes library and onto the new iPod, or do I have to manually re-copy everything (all 3,000 CD’s) into the new iPod player and into its own library/program? I’m thinking about getting a 160GB iPod off of eBay since Apple doesn’t make that model anymore, but would I be better off to just buy a new or used 120GB iPod? What would you recommend?
- Chris
A:You shouldn’t have any problems using both the Zune Desktop software and iTunes on the same computer, as they are essentially separate applications and should not interfere with each other.
In terms of your music library, this will largely depend on which format you used when you imported your CDs for your Zune. iTunes supports most major audio formats such as MP3, but does not provide support for the Windows Media Audio (WMA) format. If you imported your CDs into your Zune library in the MP3 format, you can easily just import them directly into iTunes and they should just work. If they were imported into your Zune library as WMA files, they will need to be converted to an iTunes-compatible format such as MP3 or AAC in order to use them in iTunes and on your iPod. While iTunes can handle this conversion for you, there will be some quality loss as a result of converting from one lossy format to another. In this case, you might be better off re-importing your tracks directly from your original CDs. Regardless, reimporting your tracks into the MP3 format will provide you with much more flexibility in the future, as MP3 is a much more widely-supported audio format.
If your tracks are in MP3 format and you plan to import them directly into iTunes, you will also want to consider whether you want to makes copies of those tracks in your iTunes folder, taking up additional disk space, or simply reference them from their original locations in the Zune library. You can specify whether iTunes copies imported tracks or not by visiting your iTunes preferences and checking the “Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library” option.
For more information on getting started with iTunes, check out our Beginner’s Guide to Filling your iPod.
In terms of where to purchase your iPod, if storage capacity is important to you, then purchasing a 160GB iPod from a site like eBay or shopping around for old stock in stores is pretty much your only option for getting the higher capacity iPod. Note of course that a used iPod will not come with any kind of warranty from Apple. In some cases this may even be a concern if purchasing a new-in-box iPod from a private seller (ie, a non-retailer), since proof of purchase date may be hard to establish for warranty purposes.
Another consideration in deciding between the 160GB iPod classic and the newer 120GB model is that the 2008 120GB model has a few newer features compared to the earlier 2007 iPod classic models. Most notably, the 120GB iPod classic includes built-in support for the iTunes “Genius” feature to auto-build companion playlists from a selected song, includes a built-in microphone input in the headphone jack that can be used for voice recording with in-line headphone/mic accessories, and also provides headphone-jack-based remote control support. Our iPod classic 120GB Review provides some more information on these differences.
I’ve recently purchased a 120 GB iPod classic, and I’m looking for advice on a docking station type of product that will interface with my home entertainment system and allow me to view album artwork on the LCD TV as I listen to my music. I have an iPod AC connection kit, but I am unsure if the video out or S-video connection will allow me to view album artwork. I look forward to your advice.
- Trev
A:Unfortunately, the iPod does not directly provide the ability to output any information to a TV. The built-in video out capabilities are solely for playing back actual video content or displaying photo slideshows, and are inactive during music playback.
As a result, the only way to display album art and other song info from your iPod on a TV screen is to purchase a third-party iPod dock that will read the information from your iPod and generate its own on-screen display. Due to the extra hardware required to do this, these docks are generally not inexpensive, starting at prices of around $150 and going up from there.
You can find a list of docks with on-TV menus in our product reviews section. Note that many of these docks were manufactured originally for the fifth-generation iPod and not all have been updated to support the iPod classic. Further, since the Apple TV can be purchased in a similar price range, the popularity of these types of docks has been somewhat diminished.
My iPod touch is not responding to touch, I have been advised to re-set the iPod, however first I want to download all my Notes. I am trying to find software that will allow me to download this information. Is there anything out there?
- Joel
A:The simplest and most inexpensive solution would be to e-mail your notes to yourself from your iPod touch. While this needs to be done individually for each note, there are no costs involved in doing so, and you can do this fairly quickly and easily directly from the device itself.
Keep in mind as well that iTunes will make a backup of all of the information on your iPod touch, including your notes, and you can simply restore this information to your iPod touch after you restore the device from iTunes. Further, even if you had to replace your iPod touch with a new one, this backup can be easily restored to your new iPod touch as well, or even to an iPhone.
Other options for copying content such as notes from your iPod touch back to your computer include Touch Copy (Mac/Windows, http://www.wideanglesoftware.com, $25), The Missing Sync for iPhone (Mac/Windows, http://www.markspace.com, $40) and PhoneView (Mac, http://www.ecamm.com, $20). Although these are all slightly more expensive options, they each provide considerably more functionality than simply copying notes from your device.
My husband, lucky guy, has a MacBook. I have a PC. Our iTunes library is located on another satellite hard disk. Can my husband access the library on his Mac? And, most importantly, can he sync his iPod touch to the library if he wants? Or are we stuck synchronizing only from my PC? Secondly, if we were to sync the iPod touch on my PC, does that mean we could never use it on the Mac? Or can it be reformatted? Thanks for your help.
- Renee
A:It is definitely possible to use the same content on both computers, although you will need to configure a separate iTunes library database on each one, meaning information like playlists and ratings will not be shared.
To share the actual media files, you would simply share them across the network from your Windows PC in the same way as you would share any other folder across the network. Your husband would then import the music from that network share to the iTunes library on his Mac, creating a new iTunes library database in the process, ensuring the “Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library” under advanced preferences in iTunes is disabled. This will tell iTunes to leave the media files in their original locations and reference them from there, rather than making another copy of them on your husband’s MacBook.
The main reason you wouldn’t be able to share the same library database is that Windows and Mac OS X references files in a different manner. For example, on Windows your media might be on the E: drive. Since Mac OS X doesn’t use drive letters, it wouldn’t have the faintest clue where to find the “E:” drive, and therefore wouldn’t be able to find your music files.
In terms of using the iPod touch on both the Mac and Windows computers, this is definitely possible with the newer iPhone OS-based devices. Traditional click wheel iPod models needed to be physically formatted like an external hard disk for a specific operating system, whereas the newer iPhone and iPod touch devices use a completely different synchronization model. You could therefore easily set your iPod touch to manual mode and use it back and forth between both computers without any problems.
I was looking at purchasing the H2O Audio Surge Waterproof Headphones, but I was curious if you could still hear somebody talking to you with them in your ears. I work as a Pool Tech and depend on my iPod to get me through my days, but still need to be able to hear somebody if they have a question or comment. I prefer the earbuds to the headphones, but sweat/rain seem to short out the right side of the buds that come with the iPod. I’m on my third pair in a year and a half. If you can’t still hear, could you please recommend something else to do what I’d like?
- Patrick
A:From our own experience, the H20 Surge headphones isolate sound quite effectively, so the chances are that you will not hear external audio very clearly when you are wearing them. Note that older H2O headphone models are equally waterproof and have slightly less isolation and will deliver more ambient noise, but will also have slightly lower apparent sound quality as a result.
Another possible compromise would be to wear the Surge in one ear and not the other, or perhaps fit the Surge more loosely so that you don’t get as tight of a seal with your ear canal.
I have a question that might stump iLounge. Are there any accessories (alarm clock, speakers, chargers, etc.) that work with ALL of the following: A third-generation iPod, a second-generation iPod touch and an iPhone 3G?
- Steve
A:If charging is not a consideration, any Works-with-iPhone certified accessories will generally work all the way back to the third-generation iPod for simply providing audio output. In fact, even earlier iPod speakers and related accessories will work with the iPhone, however you may find that some speakers do not filter out the interference from the cellular radio on the iPhone, requiring you to turn on Airplane Mode to listen to your music without this interference. Further, any accessories that are not Works-with-iPhone certified will display a pop-up notification to this effect as soon as you connect the accessory.
On the other hand, charging is another issue entirely, however, and it is very unlikely that you will find any accessory that can charge the original third-generation iPod and also charge the second-generation iPod touch, iPhone 3G/3GS or even the fourth-generation iPod nano. The problem is that all of the iPod models prior to the fourth-generation iPod would only charge using 12V power from the FireWire port, and were incapable of charging over USB. This is why the 3G iPod, which was the first iPod model to sync over USB, required a dual-connector cable so that you could both charge the device (via FireWire) and sync the device (via USB) simultaneously.
The fourth-generation iPod, introduced in 2004, was the first iPod model that could charge and sync over both FireWire and USB. This allowed it to continue to work with older 3G accessories that charged over the 12V FireWire power source, while also being able to charge from a computer’s 5V USB port.
From 2004 until 2008, all of the iPod models released by Apple, including the original iPhone, supported charging over either the 12V FireWire or the 5V USB connections, although the fifth-generation iPod in 2005 dropped syncing support for FireWire connections. In 2008, with the release of the iPhone 3G, iPod touch 2G and 4G iPod nano, Apple dropped the 12V FireWire charging support entirely, requiring these newer models to be charged only with USB capable accessories.
The 12V FireWire and 5V USB charging occurred on different pins in the iPod Dock Connector, and it would naturally be redundant and possibly even harmful to the iPod to provide charging power on both sets of pins simultaneously. As a result, there would not be any certified accessories that would provide charging power for both the older 12V FireWire-only 3G iPod and the newer 5V USB-only iPhone 3G or 2G iPod touch devices.
So basically, it comes down to the fact that any set of modern speakers that are designed to work with the iPhone will also work with the 3G iPod for audio playback purposes, but will not be able to supply power to charge the 3G iPod while you are listening to it.
Hi. I’ve been looking. through the site reviews, but can’t see a clear answer to my question. I just finally purchased an iPhone, and would greatly appreciate your recommendation as to the best headset to use with it. I’ve used a pair of mid-level Shure earphones (E3Cs) with my iPod for years and years now, but the cord is far too long to use with the headset attachment. So I need a new pair of iPhone-ready earbuds. Given my good experience with Shure (and zero experience with anything else) I am inclined to buy the SE 420MPA or the SE 310MPA. Thoughts? It looks like the 420 might be a fair bit larger than the 310. Is that true and, if so, is the sound quality/noise reduction sufficiently worth the increased size? I am not so worried about the cost, given how much use I will get out of these. Thanks much for you assistance!
- Chip
A:If cost is not a concern, our recommendation would be to go with the Shure SE530 (iLounge rating: A), as these are definitely among our favorite earbuds, and the best in the Shure lineup by far. Note that the “MPA” suffix simply indicates that the earphones come bundled with the MPA-3C Music Adapter, which can also be purchased separately. The standard SE series packaging includes the identical Shure earphones, but provides a simple extension cable rather than the MPA-3C Music Adapter. This is an important consideration as you may find the SE series earphones in the standard package for a better price without the “MPA” designation. The earphones are exactly the same in both cases, and the $30 MPA-3C can just as easily be added separately.
Within the current Shure lineup, the sweet spots are actually the SE210 (iLounge rating: B+) on the slightly lower end, and the SE530. In our opinion, the SE310 (iLounge rating: B-) do not offer enough of a quality increase to justify the $100 price tag over the SE210. On the other hand, the difference between the SE420 (iLounge rating: B and the SE530 is significant enough to easily justify the increased price.
While the SE530 retail for around $500, many retailers sell them for considerably less, and we’ve seen prices as low as $250 USD in the past. If you shop around fairly aggressively you should be able to find a pretty good deal, but even at the normal price they’re well worth the investment if you’re a serious music listener who is going to use them a lot.
Also be sure to check out our five-part series, The Complete Guide to Earphones for some more information and insights. While this article series does not reflect all of the models that have since become available, most of the principles outlined still apply and some good general information is provided.
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This is a joke, right? Someone says their device isn’t working, and you recommend USING THAT DEVICE TO EMAIL NOTES?
Posted by Muero on July 31, 2009 at 8:54 PM (PDT)
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How do I get itunes to play the CD I am importing during the importing process?
Posted by Steven Kossman on August 4, 2009 at 1:16 PM (PDT)