First Look Special: Apple Computer iPod (5G) with Video | iLounge Article


First Look Special: Apple Computer iPod (5G) with Video

On October 12, 2005, Apple Computer introduced the next-generation version of its successful full-sized iPod, and iLounge Editors Jeremy Horwitz and Dennis Lloyd were on hand to try it. We had our first session only minutes after the new iPod was formally introduced, left for a bit to chat with third party developers and see an as-yet-unannounced accessory, then returned for a second session to do further tests and comparisons. This special First Look is based on our early experiences, and of course will be followed by a formal review of shipping hardware in the days to come.

We’ll also note that we’ve spent considerable time preparing for our look at the new iPod by testing its two most frequently-noted potential competitors, Sony’s $249 PlayStation Portable (PSP) and Creative’s new $399 Zen Vision, two portable multimedia devices that are very different from each other, though each overlaps the new iPod in certain ways. We’ll have many more comments on this topic in the days to come, and include some initial thoughts below.

The New iPod

Variously called “iPod with video” (Apple technical support), the “fifth-generation iPod” (Apple public relations) or “the white iPod” (Apple CEO Steve Jobs), the new iPod is at first glance very similar in size and shape to its predecessors. Retaining the well-established “full-sized iPod” footprint of 4.1 x 2.4 inches, it doesn’t make a “wow, that’s small” initial impression until you see it from the side. Instead, you’re drawn to its flat face, different-than-before proportions of screen and controls, and its two body colors. In fact, the new iPod will be available next week in four total flavors.

Your first choice will be the body color. Paralleling the iPod nano, a glossy white and matte gray version will be accompanied by a glossy black and matte black version. No shock: the white version is classic and elegant, while the black version is bad boy cool. And also like nano, two capacities will be available. Each 30GB model will sell for $299, while each 60GB model will sell for $399. The numbers and colors only tell part of the story, however: both models are thinner than last generation’s 20GB iPod. And there’s another surprise, too.

Viewed from the side, the 30GB iPod is 31% thinner than the 20, at only 11 millimeters, while the 60GB iPod is 12% thinner, at only 14 millimeters. But what Apple representatives didn’t point out unless asked was that the slimming has come at the expense of battery life. The 30GB iPod is now promised to run for 14 hours of music, down from its predecessor’s 15, with only 3 hours of photo slideshow playback versus 5. Unusually, the 60GB iPod is said to run somewhat longer - 20 hours of music, but still down 1 hour to 4 hours of photo playback. It’s the first time one full-sized iPod has differed from another on battery life.

Is thinness really to blame? Partially: the smaller casings leave no room for bigger batteries. But the more direct culprit is 5G’s newer, better screen. While keeping the color palette the same - 260,000 colors - Apple has boosted the size from 2.0 inches to 2.5 inches, and the pixel count from 220x176 to 320x240. The result is a screen that looks visibly larger, but also considerably more detailed. It also requires nice, even backlighting, which eats up the new iPod’s battery juice.


Why would an iPod need a bigger screen? Video playback.

Contradicting an interview he gave The New York Times in early 2004, in which he suggested that consumers weren’t interested in watching videos on a screen smaller than 3 inches in size, Apple’s CEO Steve Jobs was nearly effusive about the new iPod’s 2.5” display. And although the display was not what iLounge’s editors were hoping for - and continue to hope for - we had to concede that videos played back on the screen looked good. We sampled 50 Cent’s Candy Shop and Fatboy Slim’s Weapon of Choice, and found them hard to distinguish from the quality of a full-sized television - at least, on the iPod’s screen.

As shown in the photo, you select videos from a text-based interface identical to the one used for music - not the picture-heavy interface used for digital photos. All videos use the same general display, though there are systems of organization for different types of video. User-defined video playlists - including Smart Playlists - can be created, as well.

A TV-style icon on the right of the screen identified video clips, which took longer to access on the hard disk than music. Apple equipped each iPod with libraries of Movies, Music Videos, TV Shows, and Video Podcasts. The sample movies were taken from Steve Jobs’ other company, the movie studio Pixar, which provided a series of eight previously released “shorts.” No full-length feature films were available, and Apple provided no explanation as to how people would convert their existing DVD movies for playback on the new iPod. The 30GB model is capable of holding 75 hours of video, compressed with typical settings, while the 60GB model holds 150, assuming no music or photos are on the device at the same time.

During video playback, simple volume and track scrubbing (skip forward/back) controls were available - just as with standard music playback - but there’s not much more to the control system. (Using the smaller Click Wheel seemed to be just as easy as it was with the 4G iPod - size hasn’t changed much.) Icons appeared as clean overlays on the existing graphics, rather than fuzzing out part of the image with translucent bezels, as was done with iPod photo playback, and video playback on competing devices such as Creative’s Zen Vision. The videos we saw appeared to be smooth and running at 30 frames per second (TV-quality), equivalent to the PSP and better than the occasionally stuttering Zen, but we’ll need to test our own videos first to reach real conclusions.

Additionally unlike the Vision, the new iPod’s screen was viewable on angles other than “straight on,” a sign that although Apple compromised a lot on screen size, it didn’t compromise much on quality. But what if you don’t want to watch your movies on the iPod?

Well, there’s a Video Settings screen for that. Kept simple, like the iPod’s photo slideshow settings, this screen lets you turn TV output on and off, change between NTSC and PAL video signals (for overseas viewing), and flip between widescreen and standard display modes. The latter feature’s value was not obvious during our initial hands-on session with the iPod, which appeared to continue to play back clips in widescreen mode regardless, but we believe that this may have as much to do with software encoding of the videos as anything else. We’ve seen the inverse problem on Creative’s Zen Vision, namely Zen’s tendency to incorrectly display widescreen movies as full-screen ones.

Is there any video bummer? Well, the big one on the hardware front is playback time. The 30GB iPod runs for only 2 hours, says Apple, when playing back video. And the 60GB iPod runs for 3. That’s considerably short of both the PSP and Zen Vision, which run for 4-6 hours - and both include replaceable batteries. Yet again, Apple dropped the ball on including that - apparently the most frequently requested iPod feature - and because of its video functionality, that’s now a considerably more relevant omission. Given that the prior iPod drains additional battery life when outputting to a TV screen, it remains to be seen whether a 30GB iPod can even last long enough without a wall charger to show a complete movie on a TV - and pity, now there’s no charger in the box. We’ll have further comments on this subject in our review of the product.

Getting Video Content

On another note, bringing existing videos on to the iPod isn’t as easy as we’d hoped. Apple could have chosen to support a wide range of video formats, but instead opted to support only two: MPEG-4, and its newest flavor H.264, the video technologies underlying Apple’s QuickTime 7 and iChat AV applications. While we are big fans of MPEG-4 because of its ability to compress huge movies into relatively small files, the encoding process is slow - even slower, and prohibitively so, for H.264 - and few people have movie or TV clips already in this format. You can now use QuickTime 7 to compress old videos into iPod-playable format, but will you want to?

The alternative is to purchase videos from Apple’s iTunes Music Store. In addition to selling Pixar’s shorts, Apple announced a groundbreaking deal with Disney - owner of both its eponymous kids’ channel and the ABC television network - to make 5 key TV shows available for paid download. At $1.99 per episode, the TV shows Lost and Desperate Housewives have the potential to prove as popular online as they already are as free broadcasts, and the additional shows Night Stalkers, That’s So Raven, and The Suite Life of Zach & Cody will prove interesting tests, as well. Other networks are apparently in negotiations to provide TV content, and if the list of iTunes Music Store podcasts is any indication - every network worth its salt is already developing free audio content - paid video can’t be too far off.

Shows can be purchased individually or by season. And contrary to what we were told by Apple representatives in the hands-on area, the company does appear to be offering bundle prices for bulk purchases: a 24-episode season of Lost, for example, sells for $34.99 - less than $1.50 per show. You’ll need plenty of time to download all of the episodes, but that’s cheaper than the $58.99 list price of the Lost Season 1 DVD, and also lower than Amazon’s $38.99 discounted price for the set. Apple’s movie clips and a library of 2,000 music videos also sell for $1.99, while video podcasts and movie trailers will be free - at least, for now. Will people pay for content other than TV shows and full-length movies? You tell us, but our inclination is that not too many people will. For more details on iTunes 6’s new features, read our brand-new Introduction to iTunes 6 feature article.

What Else Can You Do With Videos?

That’s the weakest part of the equation. On a positive note, Apple unveiled Front Row, a media center-like interface for its iMac personal computers, which is capable of playing back photos, music, DVDs and saved videos with an interface that’s simple enough for anyone to understand -  and pixel-perfect, even on a large screen.


Unfortunately, while Front Row looked awesome, as did music playback, video clips didn’t. Because Apple has chosen to use a very low resolution - 320x240 - to encode videos, they display significant chunkiness and artifacting on a big screen. In other words, it’s hard to keep your eyes off the blocks that keep on appearing in the video, and Apple did not introduce a way for the iMac to send videos to a television. However, you can use one of Apple’s existing AV Cables ($19, sold separately) to output video directly from your iPod to the TV. Again because of the quality, whether you’d want to or not remains an open question.

The other big issue is Fairplay, Apple’s digital rights management software. Fairplay permits you to transfer the videos to five devices, but not to burn them on CDs or DVDs. In two words, that sucks. Given a choice between a $38.99 box set of DVDs from Amazon or a $34.99 download of low-resolution, unburnable video clips, we’d take the DVDs any day of the week. Getting them on to the iPod might not be easy, but frankly, if we’re going to cough up that sort of cash for TV shows, we want better quality and better usage rights than that.

Though Apple got the downloadable TV shows concept, pricing, and day-after-airing implementation entirely right, it got the consumers’ needs portion of the iPod + iTunes equation hugely wrong. When you can do better with an off-the-shelf DVD recorder, VCR, or TiVo than with a paid downloading service, something’s not right. And it needs to be fixed - with higher-resolution video and superior usage rights - before we are going to make any significant purchases of video content from the store.

What About the New iPod’s Music? Photos?

Though it has added video support to its plate, the new iPod’s still a music-focused device. Nothing much has changed about the device’s interface for accessing that music, or photos, or any of the color 4G iPod’s other features - they’re all still there, but on a screen with a lot more white space.

Apple claims that the sound quality has continued to improve on 5G over its predecessors, at least rivalling the iPod shuffle, which was praised for its bass response. We’ll wait to make final judgments on this issue until after we’ve had a chance to sit down in a quiet area with the final unit, but certainly hope that various noise issues identified by ourselves and our readers have been remedied once and for all. On another note, the company regrettably has refused to budge on its preset equalizer settings, still providing a drab list of text options rather than the graphic equalizers so many people have requested.

But the aesthetics of music playback have improved. Album art is now more detailed and larger than before, and the ever-increasing list of potential types of audio content fits easily on the new iPod’s 9-line text display.


[Editor’s Note, Oct. 14, 2005: Because of its importance to podcasters, we devoted a separate report earlier on the 12th to discussing significant new recording capabilities that Apple added to the new iPod. Click on the link for the details.]

Photos are now larger, more detailed, and benefit from an increased number of thumbnails on screen at once - now 30, up from 25 on the color 4G iPod. In a less obvious addition, slideshows can now take advantage of 3-D transition effects - cube, page flip, and twirls among them - making the iPod experience even closer to a Mac OS X photo slideshow experience, too.


Other Features and Omissions

Most predictably, Apple has dropped the old iPod’s extended headphone connector in favor of a simple, right-mounted headphone port. A Hold switch on the left works as before.

Apple’s also kept the Dock Connector on iPod’s bottom, thankfully centered for easy mounting of the iPod on third-party accessories - including almost all of the old standbys that have worked with 3G, 4G and mini iPods in the past. In the only major under-the-hood omission we’re aware of in the new iPod, Apple has in fact dropped FireWire synchronization support, as it did with iPod nano and iPod shuffle, so certain devices (such as Belkin’s camera connector) won’t work. Apple’s iPod Camera Connector, however, will.

To make better use of the Dock Connector, Apple today unveiled the Universal Dock ($39), which is the same size as prior Apple iPod (photo) Docks, and carries the same rear S-Video, data, and audio output ports, but includes two new features. First is an infrared port on the dock’s front, for use with the optional infrared remote controller, Apple Remote, pictured below. Equipped with six simple buttons, the new Remote was said at the event to cost $19, but actually costs $29. It works with Front Row on the iMac, or can be paired with Universal Dock, one device at a time, to control any dockable iPod (3G through 5G, mini, and nano) placed in the Dock. Five adapter plates for 3G, 4G, and mini iPods are included, while nanos, 5Gs and future iPods come with their own adapters. Spares will be sold in 3-packs by model for $9 through Apple.

Its second new feature is a variable line output. Apple reps erred last time and told us that the nano’s Dock would include that feature, but it turned out to be exclusive to the Universal Dock. As a result, the Universal Dock will default at its highest volume level - equivalent to a line-out - then dampen the volume to lower levels if you use the iPod or the Apple Remote. Incidentally, the remote is nice, simple, and small, like an iPod shuffle but larger, and with a “menu” button in addition to volume and track controls.

In the “somewhat predictable” category, Apple’s brought over three new Extras introduced in the iPod nano: a World Clock application, a Stopwatch with Lap Timer, and Screen Lock, a way to prevent unauthorized people from accessing your iPod’s contents.

Less predictably, Apple has opted to include a simple white sleeve-like case with every 5G iPod. Why would they do that, after neglecting to include cases with both black-and-white and color 4G iPods? The answer is simple.

The iPod’s old clear plastic front is back. As we suspected when we saw iPod nano, Apple has reverted back to using a thick layer of clear plastic on top of its white or black base colored plastics, a design which unfortunately has the tendency to show scratches. Like nano. We’ll see whether 5G is nano-esque when we have it in our own hands, but the potential’s there.

Some Initial Thoughts on Value

Apple’s decision to up the base-level iPod’s capacity from 20GB to 30GB was both surprising and impressive: for the same price as last year’s black-and-white 20GB model, this year’s iPod adds photos, some video, and 50% more capacity. At only $50 more than the 4GB iPod nano, the difference in features is compelling in all ways save size.

Regardless of any review the new iPod receives, we’re convinced that Apple has a no-brainer solution for its customers: in every way except battery life and the absent wall charger, you get more this year than you did last year, and even if you didn’t think you wanted one, you’ll now have a hard disk-equipped video player for the cost of last year’s music player - or the cost of a Sony PSP with only 1GB of flash memory. The 30GB iPod is $100 cheaper than the 30GB Zen Vision, too. Unless a competitor can come up with a radically improved device, there’s no question that Apple will have the most popular - not most powerful - video player around by this time next year.

The 60GB iPod generally offers a better value proposition than before, as well. It now eclipses the smaller model in battery life, and yet doesn’t add enough bulk to be considered “big” by historic iPod standards. Considering all the types of content the new iPods can hold, higher capacities finally seem almost justified, whereas the need for 60GB and 80GB drives previously was limited by the small sizes of music collections. We’ll have to see how the devices perform in our tests, but our feeling is that the 60GB model may well prove the smarter buy of the two.

Concluding Thoughts - For Now

Our final shot shows just how much the iPod family has evolved. On the left is the first-generation iPod, thick and heavy, while its successors shrink in size while adding more horsepower by the month. What a great ride, and great evolution it’s been so far.

As always, we look forward to bringing you the best review of the new iPod possible - and doing so responsibly, without rushing and missing details that will be important to you. Because of the new iPod’s unpredictable arrival date, and our desire to do it justice with thorough testing, we hope that you’ll be patient and wait for our comprehensive final review. As always, thanks for your support, and for reading.

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Not bad. I won’t make a big investment on this because theres still the battery issue. I’ll just wait until my photo’s battery dies. The screen is still too small but the good thing is that it is slimmer.

Posted by kbgzp in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 1:58 AM (CDT)


Why did they break every accessory that uses the little tab on top of 3G & 4G iPods?

Dammit.  Lots of little things making me not want to buy this…

Posted by stark23x in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 3:29 AM (CDT)


Gorgeous looking 5th Gen iPod, gosh. But still I think that the screen is way too small to watch movies on. Maybe just nice to watch some trailers. Thinking of watching a 2-3 hours movie on that screen makes my eyes sore.

Posted by CJ Orange in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 3:41 AM (CDT)


I agree with stark23x….......I just bought a Griffin Airclick and now Apple ditches the extended headphone port and makes their own remote.  The greedy bastards, they did it so now I have to buy a new dock and a remote, and you can’t even use the remote without the dock.  THIS SUCKS!  I applaud them for adding video, but don’t freakin take away useful features!  I can’t even use my stupid iBeam light and laser pointer with the new iPod (even though I hardly used them before; the light has become useful in many situations)  Another stupid thing was goin backwards with battery life on the 30GB, I would’ve much preferred if they kept it the same thickness as the 4G and extended the battery life especially considering it’s a video device, or at least kept the battery life the same as the new 60GB. Also they really should’ve increased the 60GB to 80GB considering they gave the 20GB a 50% increase. Again, NO FREAKIN REPLACEABLE BATTERY!  If they kept it a similar thickness I wouldn’t have to buy new case (considering my iPod armour for my 30GB photo was like $80CDN)  I think it’ll sell like hot cakes, maybe I’ll even get one, but if they kept it more similar to the 4G I’d be running to order one now!

Posted by Vets in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 4:43 AM (CDT)


I just ordered mine from Apple UK, called first thing and the girl said I could not order for 2 weeks.  She did not know anything about it said they had not had any training on it yet.  Then I called back later and was apple to order.  Ive gone for 60gb with Universal Dock and remote.  I know a lot of people are going to say how bad the video is but do take into account.  last week it did not have video and this week you can get video for the same price.  You do not have to use the video if you do not want to.

Posted by James81 in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 6:20 AM (CDT)


After reading your very enlightening article, it strikes me that video implementation could have been done so much better. A battery life of 2 hours makes watching full films unrealistic, and although I was intrigued by the inclusion of episodes of TV programs in the iTunes music store, not allowing for them to be burnt onto discs or encoding them at a resolution that only fits the ipod again makes no sense.

Maybe some sort of external battery extension accessory (like the one on the shuffle) is on the way for people who wish to view full films.

But in terms of form size, they’ve made the right choice. I wouldn’t buy a PSP or a Zen simply because they wouldn’t fit in my pocket. You’ve very rightly said that this is a music player first with secondary video capabilities.

Posted by Popjunkie in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 7:26 AM (CDT)


Wow, i really wanted to get this new ipod and sell my 4g.  This has seriously made me reconcider.  2 hours of video time??? omg.  No firewire!?  why not!?  Well…My thing on this is as follows:  Apple wants to take customers from Sony’s PSP during the holidays.  They threw in video which makes customers salivate, (which it does) but totally negates it with a 2-hour battery life (and STILL, NO replaceable battery).  They removed the extended-headphone connector to make using your old accessories obsolete…thus allowing you to purchase brand new ones.  I love my iPod, but ya’ll gotta realize that no matter how much they say “We’re in line with the people”... they still are a business.  There will never be a perfect iPod, because then, there can never be upgrades for people to buy.  Remember the sole purpose of a business is to make money… i’m sticking with my 4g20gb

Posted by hyperactive in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 7:28 AM (CDT)


is it just me or does that scroll wheel look a tad to small?  no firewire!?! you’re killing me apple…

that said, my 3g is getting a little dated and i’m lusting over this like a 9th grader hitting puberty… oh so hot

Posted by tyba1982 in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 8:27 AM (CDT)


In your review you compare the new iPod with the PSP: “There’s no question that Apple will have the most popular - not most powerful - video player around by this time next year.”

I think you may have conveniently forgotten that the PSP can also be used to play extraordinary games and has a far larger screen! The new iPod simply can’t compete in those two areas. I’d consider watching movies on a PSP, never on an iPod. As it moves away from music into new areas Apple is going to have a fight on its hands with Sony in the next few years. My money’s on Sony, it’s getting it’s act together.

We’ll look back on the early iPod music years as a golden time for Apple.

Posted by andrewthomas10 in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 8:41 AM (CDT)


great news a video iPod….. HANG ON…......

The furthur you read down the page the less likely you are to want to buy one of these i am so dissapointed. i dont know what i think. whether to get it (I CAN SEE WHY IT IS AT BARGAIN PRICES) or stick with the 30 gig photo.

they better make a battery pack for the 5g. AND NEW ITRIPS AND ITALKS AND REMOTES WHICH I CAN NO LONGER USE IF I GET THIS.

I though the motto of most businesses was that the customer comes first??? well not for apple.

I’m not suprised apple dont have a suggestion area openly available for comment cause the employees at apple that would have to read the emails would die from all the abuse they copped.

i dont know wheter or not to wait for improvements that will never happen.

like HYPEractive said. “There will never be a perfect iPod.”

Posted by Myxomatosis in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 9:30 AM (CDT)


What a great product…with a few tragic flaws. I’ve been anxiously awaiting Apple to release the video iPod, but now I’m just disappointed. Longer battery life? Perhaps, but not enough. No more firewire support? Gimme a break, the guy who made that decision should be canned. Eliminating the connector so I can’t use my iTrip? That sealed the deal: no video iPod for me. I love watching videos on my PocketPC (even with the small screen size), but the limited space on a flash card means I can only have 1-2 shows on at a time. The iPod showed real potential, and I’d be fine with the small screen, but it falls flat with the design limitations and without an easy way of converting video from DVD or Tivo. Sorry, Apple, you missed the mark. Let’s see what the 6G looks like…

Posted by geekdad in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 9:32 AM (CDT)


If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.  It’s perfectly fine for music and is better than any other iPod to date.  Video is an extra, not the main feature.  Stop whining and just go by a PSP or something.

Posted by papayaninja in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 12:51 PM (CDT)


Apple doesn’t make easily replaced batteries on any iPod for a reason: doing so adds weight and space for the compartment and plastic to contain the battery as well as encase the battery.

The video portion was very appealing to me until I saw that it’s poor size will not scale well to a 65” HDTV. As was said, why get that when you can get a full quality DVD and watch that. With my (dwindling) rights, I plan to rip DVDs and reformat for the iPod once I get it.

Posted by pecosbill in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 1:17 PM (CDT)


While I think they’ve done a remarkable job with the 5G IPod…you would think they’d at least beef up the capacity (ie: 80, or 100gig versions)? I mean, video takes up a lot of space!

I dunno… music videos, and ABC programming? I would have liked to see Apple sign an exclusive with a movie studio, and get full length films (although Id go blind in a week from watching on that tiny screen) instead of a television network.

Posted by Anthony Jason in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 2:27 PM (CDT)


I hope everyone means replaceable rechargable batteries. If everyone mean dry cells, I’ll never buy another iPod.

Posted by LukeA in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 3:40 PM (CDT)


Actually, I think Apple was right on the mark with offering limited video support.  Steve Jobs has said on numerous occasions that people don’t consume video the same way they consume audio - while you will listen to a song hundreds of times, maybe, you will probably only watch a video a couple of times.

Apple has sidestepped that issue nicely - the new iPod is targeted at videos that you will either watch repeatedly (ie: music videos), or throwaway video (tv shows) that you can buy for cheap and view a couple times.  I can see a huge market here: people downloading episodes of their favourite TV shows that they missed (or just want to see without commercials) to watch on the subway commute to work every week.  If you want a “keeper” copy of the first season of Lost (or whatever), then go get the DVD set.

The lower resolution of the videos makes them quicker to download and transfer to your iPod, and they’ll take up less space.

And as for full-length videos?  Who is going to sit and stare at an itty bitty screen for 3 hours?  Whose commute is that long?  Go get the DVD and watch it at home.

The iPod is still first and foremost a music player - video is just a bonus, not the main feature.  That’s why they didn’t call it the iPod Video, just “the iPod with video capability”.

Posted by sophiewhite in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 3:41 PM (CDT)


The iPod always has been designed for music playback first and foremost.  I love my 60GB iPod Photo but after a year with it I’ve found the screen is for crap for viewing photos.  Which is why I haven’t touched the feature since probably November of last year.  I think long-term people are going to find video to be the same experience.  A half***ed attempt to bring the iPod kicking and screaming into the world of multimedia.  It’s pretty obvious that Apple doesn’t want a thing to do with video and that it’s apparent from the lack of innovation in its form factor.  (e.g.  Maintaining the traditional iPod FF is more important then a larger screen and as a result a better viewing expierence.)
As it stands I fully expect the market to yawn at this latest release.  Oh I know they are going to sell because it’s now the only large capacity iPod on the market.  But by and large people are not going to care about the video features because of three things: screen size (Or lack there of.), battery life (Or lack there of.), and resolution output support (Or lack there of.).  It all adds up to a crappy system…for playing movies.  Audio is the same as it ever was which is the goal of Apple unfortunately.  That being: Don’t dick with what we’ve already got.
As some have said on the thread if you want movie playback get something that was designed around video playback.  If you want music playback get an iPod.  Personally I’m probably going to nab myself a PSP plus the extended battery/hard drive this fall for viewing movies.  But what the people who are saying “just go by something else

Posted by SiliconAddict in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 5:03 PM (CDT)


What a difference a few years make…..

Steve Jobs:  Who wants to watch video on a dinky little 2 or 3 inch screen?  I don’t anticpate we’ll ever have video on our iPods.

Posted by glockster in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 5:10 PM (CDT)


STOP!  Look at the big picture here.  Everything needs improvement - including iPod. They aren’t going after just current outdated ipod owners myself, but to pull in those who don’t own one yet.  This is the clincher - video. 

Granted, unskilled computer users won’t figure out how to put a movie on a iPod until the easiest of tutorials come out - but people like myself have already got our movie collection waiting to load(can we say Nero..hint hint)and for those of you wondering - you can fit a lot of movies on a 30g drive - a full movie can be ripped at about 500 - 600 mb.

Im cranked - I’ve been waiting to upgrade my 4G 20gig from 2003. 

And for all those who think this is gonna stop at iTunes movies - you are dead wrong - just look around at what you can play on a PSP - WITH ONLY A FLASH MEMORY CARD!  This thing has MAD potential.


Posted by Big Mark in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 5:20 PM (CDT)


Think about this: There have been no Firewire equipped iPods since the Intel deal. Who invented the USB standard? Coincidence? This is a bull shit concession to Intel.

Posted by mcdermd in East Amherst, NY, USA on October 13, 2005 at 7:47 PM (CDT)

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