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iPod Connection and Synchronization

The iPod 101 Series was created as an introductory course for Mac and PC users totally new to iTunes.  We’ve covered many topics we have felt to be the most fundamental to the enjoyment of digital music in iTunes.  Here’s a full list of what we’ve covered so far:

iPod 101 Course List:

This week, we take iLounge’s basic iTunes training series to a new level.  This article launches the next part in our tutorial series.  Appropriately named “iPod 201,” this course will feature the same in-depth tutorial content, but will cover more iPod-specific tips and more advanced iTunes features.  Currently on the syllabus are:

  • iPod Connection and Synchronization
  • Copying music from your iPod to your PC
  • Using the PDA features of your iPod
  • Relocating your iTunes Music Library
  • ...
  • Audible content?  eBooks?  Submit your ideas!

At iLounge, we are looking forward to the iPod 201 series… we hope you enjoy it!

iPod Synchronization

One of the main reasons that the iPod has become the dominant portable MP3 player is its extreme simplicity.  The iPod’s simplicity is not just in the navigation of its menus… the synchroniztion process can be very simple, in most cases. 

Simply plug in your iPod for the first time, follow the easy pop-up instructions, and your whole library transfers to your iPod at 3-4 songs per second (via Firewire or USB 2.0).  Thereafter, it’s even easier—as soon as you plug in the iPod, iTunes launches and any changes in your library are seemingly immediately transferred to your iPod, all without you moving the mouse or touching one key.

However, this “Automatic Sync” mode is not the best choice for some iPod users.  Often, users will have too large a library for the iPod to hold.  In this case, for example, one should use another synchronization method.  Here, we’ll cover the purpose and use of the three main synchronization methods, and their advantages and disadvantages.

Getting Started:  The First Sync

To begin your first synchronization with your computer, make sure you have installed iTunes. (...and completed iPod 101?)

Then, simply plug in your iPod.  Depending on your iPod model, you may have several options as to how to do so:

  • 1G/2G iPod - Firewire Only
  • 3G iPod - Firewire via included cable OR USB 2.0 via add-on combo cable
  • iPod mini - Firewire OR USB2.0 via included cables
  • 4G iPod - Firewire OR USB2.0 via included cables

If your computer does not have USB2.0 or Firewire, you’re likely going to want to purchase an add-on card which supports one of them (PCI for desktops, PCMCIA for laptops).  Note that it is possible to use a USB2.0-capable iPod on the far more ubiquitous USB 1.1, but file transfers will be excruciatingly slow, and therefore is not something we tend to recommend.

Once you have your hardware connection chosen, connect your iPod.  Upon doing so, iTunes will launch and present you with the following setup dialog:

 

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Here, you can name your iPod, Register your iPod, and select whether or not you’d like Automatic Syncing.  Automatic syncing will, upon clicking OK, load your iPod with your entire library of music.  If your existing library happens to be too large for your iPod, and you select Automatic Syncing, iTunes will you present you with the following dialog, create a selection of music that fits, and put your iPod in “Semi-Automatic” mode, which we’ll discuss later.

 

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If you chose not to select “Automatic Syncing” on your initial setup dialog, you’ll be in “Manual Mode,” which we’ll also discuss in detail below. 

Worry not… regardless of which method you pick in this first dialog box, you can easily switch between the three main methods easily at any time.

Let’s move beyond the initial setup and take an in-depth look at each of the three syncing methods, and how to switch between them.

Automatic Syncing:  A Mirror Image

Automatic mode is, by far, the most popular method of managing music on the iPod due to its “hands-off” simplicity.

In this mode, the iPod and your iTunes library are essentially perfect mirror images of one another.  All of your songs are in both locations.  All of your playlists are the same.  Ratings and playcounts transfer both directions.  Even Audible.com bookmarks sync both ways, so you always pick up where you left off.

In most cases, if you have enough space on your iPod, automatic syncing is the way to go.

Note:  When in automatic syncing, you’ll notice that if you select your iPod in the Source column, all the songs are “greyed-out” and inaccessible.  This is normal.  You can’t access the music on your iPod directly when in this mode.  However, because your iPod is a mirror image of your iTunes library, you really have no reason to do so, anyway.

It is worth mentioning that because in this mode (and Semi-Automatic, below) iTunes and the iPod maintain copies of each other, songs cannot be deleted from iTunes and be expected to stay on the iPod after the next sync.  If you need to delete music off of your computer (to save hard drive space, for example), you’ll need to use Manual Syncing, described last.

It is also worth mentioning that the “Automatic” updates only take place when the iPod is first plugged in for each session.  If you have plugged in the iPod and made changes to your library, you’ll have to manually initiate the update sync.  To do so, right click on the iPod in the source column, and select “Update Songs.”

Semi-Automatic Syncing:  Selected Playlists Only

This mode can be useful for users with libraries larger than their iPods who still prefer a very simple, low-maintenance way to keep their iPod updated.

In this mode, you can select certain playlists to “automatically” synchronize with the iPod.  This can become very useful when used with Smart Playlists.  For example, create a few smart playlists, and limit each of them to a certain total file size.  Ensure that the sum of these maximum file sizes add up to the size of your iPod, and you have an easy way to keep your iPod full of music you like, without any hassle.

This method does have its limitations, however.  Not the least of these is the inability to create additional playlists on the iPod from the music that is on it.  Say, for example, that you have selected 4 playlists to automatically synchronize with the iPod.  These will be the only playlists on your iPod.

Like Automatic Syncing, you cannot access the songs on the iPod directly, but—again—you don’t need to, as all of the iPod’s songs are in the iTunes library.

To enter this mode, plug in your iPod, and click the fourth button from the right, in the bottom right hand corner.  This is the iPod Settings button, and has an iPod icon on it:

 

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Clicking this will open the iPod Settings window, which allows you to select between the three synchronization methods.  Choose “Selected Playlists Only” for this mode:

 

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Upon clicking “Done,” your changes will be made, and the iPod re-updated.

Manual Update

This method is the least intuitive method of syncing an iPod to iTunes, but is useful in several instances.

If your desktop’s (or laptop’s, more likely) hard drive space is running thin, Manual Updating mode will allow you to load your iPod with music, and proceed to delete the original copies from your computer.  (iLounge tends to recommend buying additional hard drive space and using an automatic method, purely because this habit of “sync and delete” is sure to wipe out a user’s music library due to loss or failure of the iPod.  Do this at your own risk.)

To switch to manual mode, use the same control panel described in the section on “Selected Playlists Only” above.

In manual updating, songs and playlists from your iTunes library are dragged (manually) onto your iPod in the Source column on the left side of iTunes.  If the songs contained in the drag selection are not already on the iPod, they will be transferred appropriately.  If they are already on the iPod, then no duplicate copy will be created, as iTunes keeps track—drag as you please without worrying about duplicates.

Manual updating also allows you to have different playlists on your iPod and iTunes.  To create an iPod playlist, select your iPod in the Source column on the left, and click the new playlist button, or select “New Playlist…” from the File menu.

With manual updating, you’ll notice that all songs on the iPod are fully editable and playable.  This allows you to listen to music directly off of the iPod, through the iTunes interface.  While the files can’t be copied to the computer due to copy restrictions, it is nice to listen to your iPod through the iTunes interface.

Another advantage of Manual mode is that songs can be added to (and listened to off of) the iPod from any computer.  Manual updating does not exclusively tie the iPod to any one computer, as does “Automatic” and “Selected Playlists Only.”

There is one crucial limitation that accompanies Manual Modes to keep separate collections on the computer and the iPod, and this is that ratings & playcounts do not synchronize from the iPod back to the computer.  For those who frequently listen to the iPod and use Smart Playlists often, this is a significant bummer.

If you like the additional control, the ability to delete your original music, and the ability to load the iPod from multiple computers, but don’t mind your ratings & playcounts being out of sync, then Manual mode may be for you.

Using the iPod as a Hard Drive

When in the iPod Settings window, you’ll notice the option to “Enable Disk Use.”  When checked, this allows the iPod to show up in the Finder (Mac) or Windows Explorer (Windows) as a standard removable hard drive.  (In Manual Sync mode, Disk Use is always enabled).

When the iPod is displayed as a hard drive, you are free to use it for whatever you’d like to do:  Backups, file transfer, etc.

You won’t, however, be able to access the music directory easily (enable “Show Hidden Files”).  If you do manage to find the music files, it is best not to tamper with them directly, as you may corrupt the database, requiring you to restore the iPod entirely.

It is important to note that when disk use is enabled, you must manually unmount the iPod before you unplug it.  To do so, select the iPod in the source column, and click the eject button in the bottom right of the main iTunes window:

 

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Notes & Tips:

  • You can monitor your iPod’s hard disc usage at the bottom of the iTunes window:
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  • You will notice that your iPod’s hard drive capacity is less than the number on the box.  This is normal.  Contrary to explanations often offered, the file system is not to blame for this discrepancy… marketing is.  The iPod, like any hard drive for any manufacturer, is marketed in decimal gigabytes.  In a decimal gigabytes, 1,000,000,000 bytes is 1 GB.  All computer hardware, however, uses 1024 bytes per kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes per megabyte, and so on.  For example, see the calculation for a “10GB” iPod, which yields around 9.3 GB of computer-interpreted space:

 

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Jerrod H. is a Forum Administrator and Contributing Editor for iLounge.

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Comments

1

This is a really useful article! I have just purchased a 4g iPod but have too much music to fit on it and was precisely wondering about these details, so thank you very much for the info.

I have a question though: If I synch some playlists (semi-auto synching) and some songs are duplicated between them, will the song be copied over once or twice/more times to the iPod?

If you don’t know the answer do you know a good way that I could test this for myself?

Many thanks! Simon

Posted by Simon on September 20, 2004 at 1:04 AM (CDT)

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The song will only be copied to the iPod once, regardless of how many playlists it is in.

Posted by Elithrar in Perth, Australia on September 20, 2004 at 3:00 AM (CDT)

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You’ve left out a key fact!

If you use automatic syncing, you can use the check boxes in your itunes library to tell itunes which tracks to put on your iPod.

Additionally, in my experience, automatic syncing is the only way to keep all ipod generated metadata - ie playcount, last played, etc.

Posted by Aaron on September 20, 2004 at 6:29 AM (CDT)

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Also if your library is bigger than your IPOD then you can use smart playlists to manage whats on your IPOD. I’ve got 3GB of my top rated music on my Ipod mini, 500mb of my newest music, and 200mb of my earliest ebooks with a play count of Zero.
I’ve noticed that the IPOD also manages the smart playlist, (did my 3g do this?) so my ebook place is always kept.

Posted by __redruM in Gaithersburg, MD on September 20, 2004 at 8:09 AM (CDT)

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can’t WAIT for the rest of this series to keep up. 
The last block was awesome, and this sounds like I could soon be using some of these new features a LOT more.  Keep up the good work guys!

Posted by Eltharodo on September 20, 2004 at 11:54 AM (CDT)

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update checked songs only can be a critical part of automatic updating that should be in this article. Otherwise well done.

Posted by studogvetmed in Loveland, CO on September 20, 2004 at 1:15 PM (CDT)

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if anybody out there lives in roanoke, VA. knows if BEST BUY sells the usb 2.0 + firewire cables…

Posted by channing saunders on September 20, 2004 at 1:56 PM (CDT)

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My question is- if I change the rating of a song on the iPod, how do I get the back into my Mac?  It doesn’t do it automatically…

Posted by The D on September 20, 2004 at 1:58 PM (CDT)

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they seriously need to find a way to autosync but not delete the songs if it’s not your hard drive.  I love autosyncing but don’t enough space on my hard drive to keep all the songs that are on my iPod.

Posted by Vlad on September 20, 2004 at 4:41 PM (CDT)

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Smart Playlists stored on iPod itself work perfectly fine with manual song transfer.  They update whenever iPod is connected to iTunes (although not during portable iPod use of course).

Metadata of songs stored on iPod are also updated perfectly fine under manual control *and* with different computers.

Posted by Colin Laney on September 20, 2004 at 4:56 PM (CDT)

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Great article, came just when I am wondering how to make my usage of my new iPod as a portable disk easier…

It’d be wonderful if auto-sync can work even when working with 2 computers or more. I find it really a chore to manually sync my playlists because I keep changing them.

Posted by Trish on September 20, 2004 at 6:41 PM (CDT)

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I have a new ipod and am running iTunes on Windows XP.  I’ve tried unsuccessfully to get my MS Outlook Addresses (Contacts) into my ipod via the Export function.  The only alternative given on apple.com is to manually save each individual contact from Outlook as a vCard and then drop and drop to the ipod.  That is not a solution!! Who has time to do that?  Any suggestions?  Is 3rd party software required?

Posted by Mark on September 20, 2004 at 8:45 PM (CDT)

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use ipod agent to get your contacts onto you iPod it has worked well for me.

Posted by Braden on September 21, 2004 at 9:58 AM (CDT)

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I use a Mac at home and it have my music library on an external FW drive.  I use the semi-auto syncing method, even though my new 40G iPod could hold my entire library.  I have been thinking of changing to fully auto syncing, but that is another story.

I would like to use the iPod as my library while at work on an XP machine.  Is there a way to do this?  I tried it once and it wanted to reformat the iPod for Windows when I plugged it in.  If I switch the iPod to Manual update, can I use it as my library on the XP machine?  Can I then easily switch back to semi-auto at home and get my occasional updates without any hassle?

Thanks in advance,
Eric

Posted by Eric on September 21, 2004 at 11:02 AM (CDT)

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Good article.  But, do mention that if you are in auto-synch mode and switch to manual-manage mode that your ipod library will be totally deleted after the mode switch, and you have to update the WHOLE library all over again for the new mode of updating!  Very frustrating.

E-

Posted by Eston on September 21, 2004 at 1:00 PM (CDT)

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Informative article.  Particularly enlightening to learn why my 20-gig 4G iPod only has a total of 18.6 gig on the hard drive.

Posted by JohnnieRay in Los Angeles, CA on September 21, 2004 at 4:40 PM (CDT)

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In response to Braden’s question: you can use your iPod on both XP and OSX, if you’re willing to go through with some short-term hassle.

Basically, XP can’t read mac-formatted iPods because it has no way to recognize Apple’s HPFS filesystem.  However, OSX will cheerfully operate with an iPod formatted with FAT32 (the format used for the Windows-based iPod).  The upshot of this is that if you’re willing to reformat your iPod on the XP machine, once, it will thereafter work on both machines.  You might have to use manual sync mode, though, as I’ve heard of people having problems with auto-sync when shuttling their iPod between two computers (of any stripe).

Posted by Halbyrd on September 21, 2004 at 8:42 PM (CDT)

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I have a similar question to Braden’s. I have an ibook I use at home, yet all the computers on campus use XP. So in order for me to use my ipod (3g) as a hard disc (basically to save papers on my computer at home and transfer them to XP computers at school) I will have to format my ipod to XP, which will allow me to use it on both operating systems.

Posted by Jon on September 22, 2004 at 10:10 AM (CDT)

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Thumbs up to this well-written and informative article!  Please keep them coming!

Posted by Yarish on September 23, 2004 at 7:19 AM (CDT)

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whats that extra button on the itunes screen shot of the bottom right corner next to the ipod button.
it says computer and has and up and down thingy and a volume icon.
i dont have that! is it becuase i is windows?!!

jerry

Posted by ijerry in Glos, UK on September 23, 2004 at 10:03 AM (CDT)

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I ran Spy Sweeper by Webroot and it trashed my hard disk. Is there a way I can populate itunes on my hard disk from my Ipod?

Thanks for any help

John

Posted by John Cummins on September 23, 2004 at 7:02 PM (CDT)

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Jerry, the button with “Computer” on it is the selection button you get when you have Air-tunes present.

It allows you to select where the music plays. I run my airport express with airtunes via my XP PC and a netgear wireless router. All works a treat, check it out here.

http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/

Posted by BigVern on September 24, 2004 at 9:24 AM (CDT)

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Newbie here. I have a question re. using a Mac-formatted iPod, as a portable HD, on a Windows (98/XP) machine: do you need to bring along the iPod installation CD, or will the reformatting thing happen automatically?

Posted by T on September 24, 2004 at 10:51 AM (CDT)

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ok, i dont use i-tunes for my music transfer to ipod,i use Ephpod. and my ipod is formatted for windows, the problem i am having is i use my ipod also as a hard drive and when i connect it to a mac, it will erase all of my music.. any help

Thanks
Brandon

Posted by Brandon on September 24, 2004 at 10:59 AM (CDT)

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Did you all see this? Don’t use your iPod as a hard drive for extended periods.

http://www.ipodhacks.com/article.php?sid=55

It was never designed for continuous use (20,000 hours MTBF versus 750,000 MTBF for regular hard drives).

Posted by Durandal on September 24, 2004 at 11:50 AM (CDT)

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hi   i use my ipod mini as a hard drive, i have a ibook at home but at school we use xp, all i did was formated my ipod for windows, even tho all my songs are on my mac, so basicly it seem like if it is formated for window it still works with the mac even tho if it is format for mac it will try to change it to window when using window’s. i have know clue y it does this.

Posted by bill on September 26, 2004 at 3:15 PM (CDT)

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bill that is because apple can read the contents on windows formatted harddrives, but windows can not read files from mac formatted drives another reason I do not like windows lol

Posted by MATRIXsjd in Burbank, Ca on September 26, 2004 at 5:23 PM (CDT)

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I Sync my iCal to my ipod but it shows appointments 2 hours earlier than input.  Why won’t it remember the correct info?

Posted by Kim on September 27, 2004 at 8:03 AM (CDT)

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Kim… on ur ipod go to the settings menu, then date & time, then set time zone, make sure your time zone has (DST) next to it….
That should do it… the same thing happened to me…

Posted by Brandon on September 27, 2004 at 10:14 AM (CDT)

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My ipod syncs OK but a few days later when I check the calendar, that is when I notice the appointment times are off and the days as well.  Things I have down for Tuesday show up for Sunday?!?!

Posted by Kim on September 27, 2004 at 7:25 PM (CDT)

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I have a new 20GB hPod, and had it set to automatic here at home, but when I plugged it in at work to use it as the library it made me change to Manual mode to not grey-out all of the songs.

When I took it back home, it was still in Manual mode, and to change it back to Automatic it made me reload it.

My work does not allow us to keep music on our hard drives, so do I have any way to keep my iPod automatically synced at home, but still use it as the library for work?

Thanks for the help!

Jeremy

Posted by Jeremy on September 27, 2004 at 9:12 PM (CDT)

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Help! My iPod stops aut-sync after moving about 200 songs over! Then it just stops (it says its completed the update) and won’t let me continue auto-sync. If I try to tell it to update the iPod it shouts “can’t update ipod “IPOD”. The required file wasnt found.”

HELP!

Posted by GMMorris on September 29, 2004 at 12:18 AM (CDT)

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What happens if I have two computers: a Desktop that I want automatic sync, and a powerbook that I want manual sync?  Is this possible without having the need to toggle back and forth depending on which computer my iPod is hooked up to?  I many only want to hook up my iPod to the Powerbook just to charge the battery.

Posted by Schu on September 29, 2004 at 12:56 PM (CDT)

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I use manual sync, and I just got my iPod 2 weeks ago.  Up until now I have never heard that it may wipe out my iPod hard drive…can this really happen?  If so, why does it, and how else can it prevented besides using auto syncing?  How likely is this to happen?

Posted by justin on September 29, 2004 at 3:24 PM (CDT)

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I use a USB hard drive so that I can share music and ideas with a couple of other DJ’s however it causes my iPod mini to disconnect when it is connected so currently I have to moove my music libray onto my compupter and then transfer the songs that I want onto the iPod and then delete the songs frmo my computer.  This is annoying and my current music listing is almost too big to even fit on my hard drive at 56.7 gig.  It is still growing so I will be in serious trouble soon.  I automaticly save any new music from iTunes to the external drive too.  Does anyone know how I can get the iPod and USB hard drive to both work at the same time? 

P.S the drive is USB 2.0 ALSO.

I am using windows XP pro and i have all of the updates for the ipod and most of the downloads from iPodLounge

Posted by RBlade on September 30, 2004 at 5:10 AM (CDT)

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I would also like to know whether or not the switch from “auto-sync” mode to “manual” mode will wipe out my existing IPOD harddrive?  If this does occur, could someone tell us how to prevent it?

Posted by Phil on September 30, 2004 at 7:44 AM (CDT)

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Phil, you can switch from auto-sync to manual without altering your songs on the ipod.
But of course if you use some extra (notes and such) you won’t be able to access them directly from your computer

Posted by ronnn on September 30, 2004 at 4:37 PM (CDT)

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One key thing to know is that for checking songs to synchronize, ctrl-click will check or uncheck all songs in the current view.

Posted by Jeff on October 2, 2004 at 11:11 AM (CDT)

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Once you have selected the manual option, how do you go back to automatic synching without going back to default settings?

Posted by Jessica on October 4, 2004 at 9:38 AM (CDT)

40

All i want is to have all the songs that are in a playlist on my ipod to synced to mirror on my laptop. How do i do it? This tutorial confused me even more btw.

Posted by cheapname on October 5, 2004 at 11:30 AM (CDT)

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This tutorial was really informative; thanks.  I just have one question.

I get my iPod tomorrow.  4G, 40GB.  (HOTNESS.)  I want to autosync first, because that’s just insanely easier.  After that, however, I want to use manual updating, because I don’t exactly want to keep 40 GB of music on my computer… I dislike keeping music on my computer at all—it’s all conveniently stored on data CDs.

I just want to know if when I switch from automatic to manual, will the library on my iPod be deleted? This kind of destroys my original point, so please get back to me soon.

—Ash

Posted by Ashley on October 5, 2004 at 8:04 PM (CDT)

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I have my ipod mini in the uk, but my itunes pc is back in nz - can I still import songs onto my ipod from my work pc here in the uk? Or will this erase all the songs I currently have on it?

Please help if you can!

Posted by mal on October 6, 2004 at 2:12 AM (CDT)

43

I transferred 2 data files from my Powerbook (Panther) to my 2nd Gen iPod. I now want to transfer these files (from my iPod) to my Windows Notebook (XP Home). But, the notebook doesn’t even RECOGNISE my iPod, let alone recognise the files. Please help.

Posted by Mark on October 7, 2004 at 3:39 AM (CDT)

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I never knew about the binary and decimal differences, i always think of a gig as being what is says on the tin (1000MB), and not 1024MB, but that would explain my RAM, as i have 2 512 on the tin, but only get 1GB on my stats.

Posted by Rich on October 9, 2004 at 6:26 AM (CDT)

45

My friend has a mini ipod and is using itunes. I have a 40g ipod, i’m trying to transfer my ipod songs to her computer so she can chosse the songs she wants, but I can’t seem to do it, can anyone help?

Posted by kirk on October 10, 2004 at 6:23 AM (CDT)

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I cannot sync any other playlists than the one created when first connected my mini iPod to iTunes? I get an error message abour ‘folder was not found’.
Anyone help?

Posted by Derek on October 15, 2004 at 9:23 AM (CDT)

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in response to ashley’s question: no it shouldn’t. 

i use manual syncing with my ibook g4 (my main music collection is based on a windows xp machine, which my ipod is formatted for). 

But because my music collections dont match (ie the ibook collection isnt the same as the windows one) i synced my ipod with the xp machine then used ipod util to transfer files from my ipod to the ibook. the songs that were on my ibook but not on my ipod or xp machine had to be transferred using manual syncing, and it DIDNT delete the music on my ipod.

and…

RIch, you may also find ipodutil helpful, just install it on ur friend’s machine and plug in your ipod.  you can download it from…

http://www.kennettnet.co.uk/software/podutil.php

but you might also want to check out the ipod lounge article at…

http://www.ipodlounge.com/articles_more.php?id=5090_0_8_0_M

Posted by T!taNiuM.^uK in Nottinghamshire, England on October 18, 2004 at 3:19 AM (CDT)

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I FINALLY found a good(ish) & easy way to remove songs from my HD and free up space, but keep them on the iPod, while still benefitting from Auto-Sync.
Basically, you just right-click on one of the tracks you want to remove, choose “Show Song File” (I’m using PC).
Then manually delete the actual song files, but leave them in iTunes. iTunes will give you a warning msg next time you sync, but it won’t delete the songs off your iPod. Sweet!
Means you can’t edit any details of those tracks in future though.

Posted by Brendan on October 19, 2004 at 10:34 PM (CDT)

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Forgot to mention, iTunes actually detects the songs that have been removed, and marks them. But leaves them on the iPod.
This way you can actually track which songs are no longer on your HD.

Posted by Brendan on October 19, 2004 at 11:38 PM (CDT)

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My hard drive crashed, such that the only place that my music exists is on my iPod.  I bought a new computer and installed iTunes. When it asked if I wanted to configure my ipod, I said “no” (the iPod ws not connected).

I know that you are supposed to turn off auto-update to prevent the computer from erasing the ipod.  The problem is that Apple, in their infinite wisdom, doesn’t give you the option to tell the software to manual update until it sees an iPod.  My 4th generation 20Gb iPod doesn’t appear to have an option to turn off auto-update in the unit. 

My worry is that as soon as I plug in my iPod and run iTunes, it will automatically erase my iPod to synch with what is on the computer (which is nothing).  Will this happen?  How do I prevent it?

Posted by Chris on October 21, 2004 at 6:20 PM (CDT)

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Hey everyone:

I have about 33 of the 40GB on my iPod (4G) filled up, but I’ve been using manual-update since the day I got it because I didn’t know any of the now obvious advantages of using auto-update.

I know I can copy the iPod music files to my PC by simply using Windows Explorer and dragging the music files from my iPod to my PC.  However, when you look at the iPod as a drive, all of the files are randomly in one of 50 folders (F00 through F49).  There seems to be no rhyme or reason for assigning the music files a folder, so there is no organization whatsoever.

My question is, how can I go back to auto-update (or can I, even)?  If I copy the 33GB of music back to my hard-drive, and somehow figure out how to organize the whole big mess back into proper folders, is it possible?  Is there an easier way?

Thanks!

Posted by Brian on October 21, 2004 at 7:01 PM (CDT)

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Can anyone please help me?
I have a 40Gb iPod, OS Windows XP. Using the manual method I put all my music on my iPod (when in the other automatic modes I kept getting empty the recycle bin and other errors) I had to erase most of the music on my PC (it’s a work pc) but now I want to be able to copy some of the music back from my iPod to my PC.

Above it says I have to check the “Enable Disc Use” option in settings but it’s greyed out. How can I enable my iPod for disc use without erasing any of the existing iPod memory so I can transfer back to PC?

If anyone can help me I’d really appreciated it!!
Thanks
Rob

Posted by Rob McCormack on October 22, 2004 at 3:37 AM (CDT)

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The sync prefs are stored on the iPod, not on the computer, I think. So you should be able to plug your iPod in without fearing to have everything erased.

When I switched to 10.3, I formated my HD and did a clean install. When I ran iTunes for the first time and plugged the iPod in, the prefs were already set on ‘manual’.

Posted by ldm on October 22, 2004 at 8:03 AM (CDT)

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I use my iPod in Manual mode because I don’t keep my ripped tunes on my laptop. Does this prevent the iTunes software on my iPod from being updated if Apple releases a new version? How would I go about updating the iPod software?

Posted by Mark on October 23, 2004 at 11:59 AM (CDT)

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I’m with you chris, i have the exact same problem - except it was my dad’s computer that crashed and he’s gone back to using OS 9.2 (OSX crashed it) and i don’t have my own computer.  When i try to attach to a friends computer to download some new cd’s i bought, it ejects my ipod as soon as i say “no” to “replace my music library with theirs”.  and when i’m not hooked up, the manual sync option is not there, and i can’t re-sync with my dad’s computer b/c it doesn’t work with OS 9.2

If anyone can shed light on this one, it would be so very highly appreciated. Thanks so much.

Posted by Fiona on October 24, 2004 at 12:59 PM (CDT)

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So you can download music already on your computer from scources such as Kazaa or iMesh? Then why do people use money on iTunes?

Posted by Charles S on October 25, 2004 at 3:08 PM (CDT)

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Charles, that is because iTunes is legit.  Downloading music from KaZaA or iMesh is illegal.

Posted by Mike on October 25, 2004 at 3:55 PM (CDT)

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Chris - From the iTunes keyboard shortcuts under the help menu: Command-Option as you connect the iPod to your computer (hold the keys down until the iPod appears in the iTunes Source list)

Posted by topherphoto on October 28, 2004 at 11:46 AM (CDT)

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BTW, the keyboard shortcut above is the key to making damn sure your iPod DOES NOT SYNC when connected.  There’s probably a PC command as well.

Posted by topherphoto on October 28, 2004 at 11:51 AM (CDT)

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Pretty easy question (well, I feel like it may be easy to answer, though I’m not sure about it!) but here goes. Just got an iBook, and realized that the majority of its space is being taken up by my music (over 20 gb, though when it syncs w/my 20 gb iPod, it’s only 13 gb - anyone know why that would be?) Anyway, I want to delete my songs from my iBook HD but leave them on my iPod. I have backups of all music on 20+ cd-rw’s and, going forward, just want to add the new songs when I sync.

Is it easier/more intuitive to use Manual sync or semi-automatic sync and just have a smart playlist of “recently added” songs be updated when I sync? Either works for me, but I do want to get the music off my HD, as I don’t really need it there (nor do I ever play music from it.)

Any help for this Mac newbie would be greatly appreciated - thanks in advance!

Posted by aos08 on November 30, 2004 at 10:38 PM (CST)

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help! i may be being stupidly ingnorant here, but when I try to use my iPod to view text files it comes up with a load of weird symbools instead of the text. I use Windows XP. Can anyone help?

Posted by Superpete in England on December 5, 2004 at 8:15 AM (CST)

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Brendan,

Thanks for the advice. This is a slightly laborious but effective way of freeing up space on the hard drive while keeping synchronisation on. I really didn’t want to go manual!

Posted by timfrombrighton in Brighton on December 12, 2004 at 11:21 AM (CST)

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P.S. Once you have deleted the source files, as Brendan recommends, by right-clicking and selecting “Show Song File” you can no longer drag these songs into a play list.

Posted by timfrombrighton in Brighton on December 12, 2004 at 12:11 PM (CST)

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I have a 3G iPOD and I am using it with both my PC at home and at work.

My Music collection on the work PC is growing faster and faster and I would like to import all the new music in bulk into the iPOD without losing the one I already have stored on it. Is there a functionality that allows me to do that?

thanks in advance

Posted by Stez19 on December 24, 2004 at 5:32 AM (CST)

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I just got the ipod mini for christmas and guess what I know how to do everything but erase music to make space for new things. i think i am going to have to upgrade because 1000 songs isnt enough for my collection.
so can somebody please help the newbie with erasing certain songs

Posted by duaneSneed on December 28, 2004 at 8:34 AM (CST)

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Hi…..i have a 20gb ipod formatted to windows, which i have been travelling with for the past year, using many Apple stores around the world to import cds!  I have just bought a G4 mac, can i sync my ipod library to the G4, even though my ipod is formatted to windows??

Posted by Jowan in UK on January 13, 2005 at 9:56 AM (CST)

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If you want to pull the music back off your iPod to your new Hard drive, download PodUtil, which you can find on this site: http://www.kennettnet.co.uk/software/podutil.php
This will enable you to hook up your iPod, close iTunes when it opens, and allow you to download those songs off of your iPod to your hard drive.  Then just add that folder of music to your iTunes, and you should be golden.  You might have to “Check fo Purchased Music” after you add all the files to register that music on your computer.

Posted by HunterHSK on January 30, 2005 at 12:41 PM (CST)

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I have had my 2g 10gig Ipod now for about 2 years. It had been working properly until 2 months ago when my ipod just stopped recognizing any connections to any computer. When I try to plug it, the apple logo would pop up for a few seconds followed by “OK to disconnect” then finally going back to the menu screen. I’ve tried this on my friends computers, all are ipod owners, with the same results. I’ve tried resetting it and used the diagnostics for errors, according to the results everything past. I also tried setting it to firewire mode and getting the “OK to disconnect” once again. Aside from this one major issue the ipod is working well, I can still recharge it and listen to songs, I just can’t put new ones in. Has anyone else encountered this problem? any advice on how to fix it? I really want to get a new Ipod but its not in my budget.

Posted by DeoMoto on April 8, 2005 at 2:38 PM (CDT)

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I just bought a mini and have synch’ed once.
I think everything went ok.  Since, I have added more music to itunes and connected so that it would update my ipod.  It gave me the “do not disconnect” for over 4 hours.  I did the unthinkable and unplugged the ipod and noticed that nothing was updated.  What did I do wrong???

Posted by kelleekay on July 5, 2005 at 3:48 PM (CDT)

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i dont have any songs on my itunes any longer. long story. how can i take my ipod put all my songs/playlists back onto itunes?
i have the U2 ipod.

Posted by caligator in los angeles on August 4, 2005 at 11:34 PM (CDT)

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” dont have any songs on my itunes any longer. long story. how can i take my ipod put all my songs/playlists back onto itunes? ” - caligator

You’ll need a 3rd party utility for that (Apple intentionally made this tuf to avoid music theft).
I personally haven’t tried any, (perhaps someone who has will pipe-in)  But you can…

Use this site, Version Tracker.com, or MacUpdate.com to read about your options. Likely some freebies available, but personally I’d reccomend choosing 1 with high ‘stability’ ratings.

good luck, should be reasonably easy to do once you’ve chosen the right utility.

Posted by xandra on August 24, 2005 at 7:13 AM (CDT)

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Thanks for this article, but I think it clarified that I can’t do what I want to do with iTunes.  I have a laptop that goes with me everywhere and a music collection that stays home on my network.  Automatic syncing will work as long as I don’t actually want to run iTunes when I’m on the road (auto-sync deletes ipod contents when it can’t find the library.)  So I use manual now, but then I’m in a 3-way sync problem (physical library to iTunes library to ipod).  Any suggestions on this one?

Here’s my wish list for a usable iTunes:

1.  Auto Library - I give iTunes multiple folders, perhaps even on different volumes/drives, and it automatically checks for newer files at those locations and automatically updates the library.  I want the library to detect when I’ve been playing around with my tag editor and fixing tags on my mp3’s.  I don’t want to manually delete the old files and add the new ones back.  Also, if I need to move my library to a new disk, it shouldn’t be so painful to recreate the library.

2.  Safe Sync - If the library is missing because I’m not connected to my network, give me the option to leave my iPod alone.  In what use case would I want iTunes to delete files from my iPod?

3.  Copy off iPod - I shouldn’t need an extra shareware utility for this.  Surely Apple’s reasoning can’t be copy protection.  I have a 60GB ipod and a 512MB shuffle, and I’d like to transfer files between them from iTunes, even when the library isn’t physically present.

4.  Lose the ipod database - There’s no good technical reason for short filenames in obscure directories.  If I want to use a directory sync utility instead of iTunes, I should be able to do it.  Many other mp3 players just make the player look like a removable drive and leave the music organization to the user.  Don’t worry, I’ll still buy stuff from the Music Store!

Message to Apple: surely you know that most of us are smart users.  You don’t have to hold our hand.  It’s a travesty that you design such a beautiful piece of hardware and couple it with “fisher price” software.

Posted by wackydoug on January 3, 2006 at 11:12 PM (CST)

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Hello again.  I found a freeware utility that handles #1 in my wish list above.  Sorry, it’s only for Windows right now, but the author will apparently provide the source code if you ask.

http://itlu.ownz.ch/

I googled one for mac, too.  Haven’t tried it out, though.

http://www.crispsofties.com/i.i/index.html

Posted by wackydoug on January 5, 2006 at 1:20 AM (CST)

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Not sure if anyone is still reading this thread.  :)  After more research, I switched from itunes to Winamp (http://www.winamp.com) and the ml_ipod plugin (http://mlipod.com).  It handles everything I mentioned above.

Posted by wackydoug on January 7, 2006 at 10:11 PM (CST)

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I have a problem with my 60GB photo ipod where it attempts to update every song on the selected playlists on the ipod every time I connect to the PC.  I assumed that the Selected Playlists Only updating option would only update playlists on the ipod if they had CHANGED in itunes somehow (i.e. a song added to a playlist should be added to the ipod, however, if no songs in the playlist had changed, then no transfer would occur) 

My problem is that if it trys to sync every song in the selected playlists, it take FOREVER.  I just want it to automatically sync changes.

I have a Windows XP machine running Itunes 6

Am I missing something? Thanks

Posted by dukedevil on February 15, 2006 at 10:33 PM (CST)

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So if you change from auto to manual syn, all your songs on ipod will be deleted?  Or is this only if you delete your library…Sorry just so confused!

Posted by schoolteacher on March 14, 2006 at 10:17 AM (CST)

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Whenever I plug in my 20 gb iPod, it says the USB port is not recognized and my computer doesn’t recognize it as an iPod.  therefore, I can’t update it.  What do I do?

Posted by vinateri004 on May 20, 2006 at 4:17 PM (CDT)

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I have a Gen III ipod that I use for audio books and music. There is an audiobooks folder or something of the sort on the ipod but I cannot figure out how to put my audiobook playlists into it. I use smart playlists, and know how to import CDs etc. I even import tapes as MP3 files.

Posted by jabut on March 27, 2007 at 8:43 PM (CDT)

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My Ipod Mini Does not work particularly well with Windows. I usually get a corrupted Ipod msg even though all the songs are there.

Apple suggested deleteing the auto update files which worked. Now I am getting a msg saying that the ipod cannot sync because a required file cannot be found.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

RR

Posted by rjr on July 11, 2007 at 2:54 PM (CDT)

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i have the second generation ipod nano(a pink one) and when i “sync” my songs from itunes to my ipod only 138 out of 172 songs were transfered to my ipod.

i REALLY REALLY need some help on how to transfer the other 40-some songs to my ipod.

your help would be much appriceated.

thanks a ton
Holly

my email
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Posted by xholly xoxo on July 18, 2007 at 4:47 PM (CDT)

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My daughters Ipod “suddenly” lost the ability to sync from her laptop.  It appears that the “sync” option on the file menu is now greyed-out and I can’t shut it off.  Prior to this scenario she would simply plug in her Ipod to the machine and all her music would update automatically.  We have tried a new cable and updated Itunes to no avail, can you give us any clues as to what the problem might be>

Posted by Bethjovi on September 28, 2007 at 11:20 AM (CDT)

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i’ve a problem with my ipod it’s not being detected by my laptop. the laptop version is ibook g4 arrond 5 years old from now n my ipod is ipod classic softversion is 1:1:1.. can u suggest me the way out??

Posted by kruti on May 16, 2008 at 12:33 PM (CDT)

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Me too!  My laptop COMPAQ ARMADA M700 wont recognize my ipod. I updated itunes and ipod configuration programs.  Could not restore to am earlier date. Still only a beep but nothing on the windows computor or itunes.

Posted by Bone234 on May 19, 2008 at 12:10 AM (CDT)

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Fixed!  Removed all itunes, ipod and auxillary programs as well as all data from C: drive then downloaded iTunes afresh.

Posted by Bone234 on May 20, 2008 at 11:37 AM (CDT)

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Hi, i recently bought a used 60g ipod with abunch of sweet songs and movies on it. I was wondering if there was a way to add more music to it without erasing everything that is already on it? Or adding music from friends itunes… i know it was probably made so you couldnt do that but i was wondering if you knew a way?

thank you very much
randi

Posted by Randi on August 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM (CDT)

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help!  i got my own laptop: how do i get my i tunes from my parents computer 2 mine?  I am prompted when i plug my ipod in that if i sync it will erase what is already on my ipod and replace it with “nothing” because that is what is on my new i tunes.

Posted by nikki on October 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM (CDT)

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Gave my son an Itouch, his 3rd gen nano will be mine for movies only. It was used with his laptop itunes, as his new touch will be.
I already have an identicle 3rd gen nano, on my itunes for music only
We do not want to lose either library, his or mine on either laptop.
What would be the procedure?
Thanks,

Posted by Christopher on December 26, 2008 at 11:03 AM (CST)

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Hello, I have used my 4th gen nano for a while on my xp and i just updated to windows 7 so i instaled i tunes on it and sync’d my ipod with it and put some music on it but now when i plug it in it does nothing at acts like i d dint plug it in.

Posted by Mike on November 29, 2009 at 10:07 PM (CST)

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Hi, there are 4 ipods at home, ( special edition U2, classic, shuffle and shuffle w/video). i am trying to share music from all of them, but i can’t seem to find the software for it, without erasing anyones music. does anyone know any sites?  please hit me back with any info, i appreciate it.
thanks
Israel

Posted by Israel Salas on April 21, 2011 at 5:14 PM (CDT)

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