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Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

I am also having really annoying space problems on my work-issued 16GB iPhone 5, after enabling iCloud Photo Library. I have a huge library dating back to 2001, and even with Optimize Storage turned on, it also quickly filled my phone. Even then, only a fraction of the thumbnails were downloaded, so most of my Photos app on the phone is just blank thumbnail holders.
I can understand all of this, since my phone is small. But what’s infuriating is that I am CONSTANTLY getting “out of storage” errors, whenever I try to take new pics, or download podcasts, or even update apps. Usually I just have to say “OK”, then try again later. I assume in the background iOS starts to remove some of the downloaded full-size pics. But it’s not doing this nearly aggressively enough. In my opinion, iOS should NEVER report “out of storage” as long as it’s able to delete pics in the background.
I know it’s a tough tightrope to walk about how aggressively to retain pics vs. delete them. But, if I’m actually telling the phone I want to do something that requires more storage (take new pics/vids, download a podcast, etc), then it should immediately clear up enough space for me to do that, instead of throwing up useless error messages that I can do nothing about. I can’t go into Photos and start deleting stuff, because then those are removed from my iCloud library, and therefore all of my devices. All I can do is wait until iOS decides it’s going to give me back some space. As far as I know, there is no way to force Photos to make more space on the phone, apart from disabling/re-enabling iCloud Photo Library on it, which is a huge waste of time and bandwidth.

Posted by joelion on May 17, 2015 at 9:31 PM (CDT)

Why doesn't Traffic show up on my Today Notifications Screen?

Hmm. Didn’t have to restart. Looks like my cellular connection might have been not so good. I turned on wifi and traffic appears. Now I have to go and drive in it.

Posted by pwrmacbob on May 13, 2015 at 4:09 PM (CDT)

How do I turn off Reachability on the iPhone 6 Plus?

Unfortunately, the iPhone doesn’t provide any settings to do this… Voicemail is a function of your carrier’s service, so any time limitations would have to be set on your carrier’s end. I don’t believe most carrier voicemail systems provide this as an end-user option—it’s usually fixed by the carriers as part of whatever plan you’re on.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on May 13, 2015 at 3:33 PM (CDT)

How do I turn off Reachability on the iPhone 6 Plus?

How can I limit the amount of time someone can leave a voice message on my I phone 6?

Posted by Bob on May 13, 2015 at 2:40 PM (CDT)

Why doesn't Traffic show up on my Today Notifications Screen?

Restarting might certainly help. You’ll also need to ensure that you have a cellular or Wi-Fi data connection. The option will sometimes not appear properly if you have poor GPS coverage.
It’s also worth noting that traffic isn’t available in every country. See… for a list of where it’s available.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on May 13, 2015 at 12:55 PM (CDT)

Retrieving deleted data from an old iCloud backup

You can extract notes from itunes backup files. While if you don’t have any backup files in iTunes or iCloud, can you recover deleted notes on iPhone? The good way is to recover
with Coolmuster iOSRescuer ..

Posted by Factionnzz on May 12, 2015 at 1:55 AM (CDT)

Why doesn't Traffic show up on my Today Notifications Screen?

I’ve done all of the above and I still don’t see traffic in the Today view. Do I have to restart the phone?

Posted by pwrmacbob on May 11, 2015 at 3:05 PM (CDT)

How do I keep my iPhone calls from ringing on my Mac?

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Posted by Steven on May 9, 2015 at 6:54 PM (CDT)

How do I keep my iPhone calls from ringing on my Mac?

Actually, yes—in Yosemite, Notifications are handled through a “Notification Center” in much the same way they are on iOS, so if you go into System Preferences -> Notifications, you should be able to find FaceTime there and just uncheck the “Play Sound for Notifications” setting.
If you still want to hear sound, but don’t like the default notification tone, you can also select a different one in the FaceTime Preferences on your Mac.
Note that both of these settings will affect all FaceTime notifications, so you won’t get any sound for actual incoming FaceTime calls either, however. Yosemite and the FaceTime app don’t differentiate between Handoff calls from your iPhone and actual FaceTime calls.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on May 9, 2015 at 7:22 AM (CDT)

The Complete Guide to Apple TV Channels

can u watch tv on an apple ipad?

Posted by Matt Lewis on May 9, 2015 at 1:48 AM (CDT)

How do I keep my iPhone calls from ringing on my Mac?

Is there a way to keep the phone calls coming into my Macbook Pro but never make that annoying ringing noise? Short of muting my computer all the time, can I shut it up? :)
Thank you all.

Posted by Steven on May 8, 2015 at 11:46 PM (CDT)

Why doesn't my iPhone reconnect to Wi-Fi after I turn it on?

I don’t want my iPhone waking me in the middle of the night either. I schedule Settings > Do Not Disturb from 9pm to 6am. It works great.
The only time I’ve been disturbed in the middle of the night was from someone trying to FaceTime a wrong number. I allow repeated calls so when she tried a second time it went through. The poor little girl was horrified when my mug showed up on the screen instead of her darling grandma and immediately killed the call. No issues since.

Posted by Jeff Shepherd on May 5, 2015 at 10:10 AM (CDT)

How do I move away from a shared Apple ID for iMessage?

I set up a new Apple ID once me and my friend realized we were getting texts intended for other people. Problem I have now though is that he and I can’t iMessage each other. It says “delivered” but it is not received by him and vice versa

Posted by Jeanette on May 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM (CDT)

The Complete Guide to Apple TV Channels

I don’t see the need for all of these competing box services. In my opinion Roku is the best of all the boxes, but I have been stupid and bought everyone that came out, Amazon, Apple, Nexus and Kindle. Of all of them I only use the Roku and based on this article I am considering rehooking up my Apple TV. But with these two Roku and Apple and my FIOS Cable, I’ve got more than I can possibly watch. I still don’t have the one thing I really am craving and that is the ability to watch ANY NFL game every week. Now wait, I have to get a satellite dish for that. Somebody please consolidate all of this into one easy to use device.

Posted by MARK4RUNNER on May 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM (CDT)

How do I share one iCloud Photo Library within a family?

It’s not the best solution by any means but a spouse can log into the website as the “main” icloud photo library user and browse, share and download all of the photos over the web.  You won’t have editing capabilities through the website but at least you can get at all of the photos and share them.

Posted by John D'Orto on April 29, 2015 at 2:31 PM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

That sounds about right. The grey squares should eventually fill in with actual thumbnails as they’re downloaded/generated. At this point, I think it’s more laying out the library structure.
While I’ve been through this a few dozen times going back to the early betas, I’ve yet to deal with trying it with a huge library on a low-capacity device, so it’s entirely possible that maybe those grey boxes will stay grey to save space, and only fill in as you scroll through them, but I wouldn’t count on it.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on April 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

Yeah, it would be nice Apple would include caching as an option in the app settings.
The image download is still going. It’s used up a bout 600mb so far. Photos no longer says “preparing x number of photos” but most of the images are not available to view yet. The are the grey square with the iCloud icon in the corner. They do force a download when you try to view the individual image.

Posted by Eric Norman on April 23, 2015 at 9:06 AM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

You’re correct that it should download them on-demand as you’re viewing them, and in fact you’ll see that happen with older photos—they’ll initially come in blurry and you’ll see a progress indicator in the bottom-right corner showing that it’s downloading a higher-resolution version. When viewing, this is still not the full-res version, but a resolution appropriate for your specific screen. If you tap on the “Edit” button it will go through another download process to get the actual, original full resolution version.
That said, however, the thumbnails appear to be permanently stored, not downloaded on-demand, since you need to see them when you’re scrolling through your photo list, and I’m guessing it would probably not be a great user experience to see a bunch of empty blocks that had to be refreshed on a regular basis as you’re scrolling before you can see what those photos actually are.
The thing is, those thumbnails are probably at least around 160x160, based on an iPhone 5s screen—likely larger on an iPad or iPhone 6/6Plus. Even optimized, they’re not going to be tiny, and 100,000 of them could add up quickly.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on April 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

I agree that the phone size is a limiting factor. I just didn’t expect it to fill up so quickly. And again, I also expected was that images would download small versions as I was viewing them. That they would be cached, and then the phone would clear the cache as needed. I didn’t read that anywhere so it’s just my thoughts. Seem like the easiest solution. I could then make collections to download if I desired. I really don’t want any photos on my phone unless I have chosen to do so. I love them, but they are a memory hog. It appears that the optimize selection may be helping. My phone is downloading more than 12k photos from 2014/15. The memory is filling, but seems to be doing so at a far slower pace. I’ll let you know what space it ends up taking.

Posted by Eric Norman on April 23, 2015 at 8:50 AM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

Hmm, I’m wondering if the real problem is that 16GB is just too small relative to the size of your library. Even at the smallest possible optimized thumbnail size, 100K photos is probably going to push your storage pretty tight.
Apple doesn’t provide details on what it scales the “optimized” photos down to, and based on my experience with Apple and photo optimization, it’s probably device-specific since the photos should ideally be in resolutions that would look good on your specific screen, so it’s difficult to say for sure, but it wouldn’t surprise me if you’re still looking at a minimum of 30-50K per photo just for the thumbnails, and with 100,000 photos, that’s going to put you up around 3-5GB of storage just for that, and that’s assuming there are no higher resolutions stored as well, which seems unlikely, and of course that doesn’t even include videos.
iCloud Photo Library, by default, wants to keep about two weeks worth of the most recent photos and videos stored in full resolution, and I’m not sure how much that varies based on how tight the space on your device actually is.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on April 23, 2015 at 8:25 AM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

Good call on the “Optimize iPhone Storage” option. I believe I had that selected, but I will try it again to make sure. The Apple rep didn’t even mention it. I’m dealing with more than 100k photos, spanning more than a decade. I was hopeful that iCloud would finally get me to the place where my entire family could access them easily. We have 5 iPhones, 3 iPads and 3 Macs. The phones, even mine, are only 16gb which is pretty limiting when it comes to media storage. I will make another attempt and let you know if that works. Thx, e

Posted by Eric Norman on April 23, 2015 at 8:09 AM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

It sounds like you’ve been pretty thorough with the entire process, so I apologize for asking if you’ve covered this already, but did you select the “Optimize iPhone Storage” (or iPad, iPod, etc) on each device? By default, if this option is set, you should definitely only get smaller resolution versions optimized for viewing on your device. I have a 200GB photo library in Photos for Mac, yet it’s taking up around 20GB on average on each of my iOS devices, and does seem to be somewhat proportional to the free space that’s available—I suspect based on my own testing that, as with iTunes Match, iOS cleans up more high-res photos if you’re running low on space, but allows them to be cached for longer if you’ve got the room to spare. For instance, my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus has 32GB in “Photos & Camera” but it also has 30GB of free space. My 32GB iPad mini, on the other hand, which has the exact same library, only has it taking up around 12GB of storage.
So this is the way that iCloud Photo Library is supposed to work. If you’re having a different experience, I suspect that it’s either a case of a gargantuan photo library or—much more likely—there are still some bugs to be worked out.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on April 23, 2015 at 7:24 AM (CDT)

Is there a point to having both iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Stream enabled?

I Love Apple, but I am greatly disappointed in the new iCloud offering, especially in regards to having your entire photo library available on all of your iOS devices.
I updated all of my family’s iOS devices to the latest iOS version and started iCloud Photo Library on each device. Simple enough…
…A couple hours later all of our phones literally had 0k of memory available. Upon checking app memory usage, photo memory usage had grown substantially. Mail was shutting down on start, or starting, but shutting down on opening any email. In addition, mail was not pulling any current emails. I deleted some apps to make room, only to have the available space fill up quickly with photos. I turned iCloud Photo Library off on our devices, deleted the photos it had downloaded to our phones, and memory, apps and functionality began returned to normal.
I thought that iCloud Photo Library was going to be a cloud storage service for all of my photos. That’s basically what the information on Apple’s site says. I thought that I was not setting something properly, so I culled through Apple’s information and searched for others online who may have the same issue. From everything I dug through, I had it set up properly.  I then opened a chat with an Apple associate to find out what I was doing wrong. I was’t doing anything wrong. iCloud Photo Library will store all of your photos as long as you have purchased a large enough plan to do so. But iOS will download all of them in some unknown size, for you to view, share etc..  The Apple person told me over an over that iCloud was not a storage service. We argued over the fact that their site repeatedly calls it that, and I dropped the chat frustrated.
I assumed that my iOS devices would have access to a cloud library and be served with small images for browsing, and then downloading them if I desired. That to me is the no-brainer way of doing this. I assumed, regretfully, that Apple, like it does with so many other things, would do the simple, easy to use, and most functionally sound solution for photo library organization and browsing. Not so with iCloud Photo library. Sorry Apple, HUGE miss. This really is just an unlimited (or limited only by your icloud service plan) photo stream, that won’t fit on my phone!

Posted by Eric Norman on April 23, 2015 at 7:16 AM (CDT)

Restoring Text Messages from an iCloud Backup

Maybe because you did something wrong during the process.
Why not try another method?

Posted by Bomebome on April 23, 2015 at 3:13 AM (CDT)

Phone numbers for iMessage on an iPad and iPod touch

well i have imessage on my ipod but I want to call people too so can I get time on it or not yes messageing is handy but wat if I something bad happed and I could only text you know wat I mean or am I just plan !CRAZY! CAN U HELP ME PLZ:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Posted by Teresa Cypret on April 21, 2015 at 8:11 PM (CDT)

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