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Future Pods

I never advocated adding video to standard iPod, it would be released as a separate line of product. Also we are talking about the future here, maybe 2005-2006. At one point Quicktime-on-a-chip or MP4-on-a-chip will be cheap because of its use in 3G cellphones. This chip will stream the video right of the hd to the lcd screen and to an tv output. Very cheap and low power small screens are increasingly used in cellphones.It becomes an added bonus. In one year or two, I’m guessing, the price difference to add video to an iPod-like device will be around 100$ Maybe you dont find any use about having a portable video collection that can be viewed on any tv and -previewed- anywhere on its screen (no this thing is not about watching a whole 2 hours movie on its small screen), and it all fits in your pocket, but if its sleek and simple and well integrated with software like the iPod is, it can become a must-have for many.

Also I don’t know why so many people dispite the idea of a color screen on the normal iPod. Again these things are increasingly cheap and low power. The normal music player could have the bonus of displaying still images like art cover and have the interface colored. Once you get a cheap color screen that replaces the b&w screen for about 30$ its all a matter of software wich doesnt really add to the hardware cost. If you dont add video (to the normal color iPod) you dont even have to change the processor.

Posted by buzzy beetle on February 6, 2004 at 8:48 PM (CST)

Future Pods

why does the iPod need to have all these things added to it. i agree that a scrathing wheel whould be cool. but it whould take away from the dj experience. blue tooth would be sweet along with a mini air port card. xm maybe…the iPod was ment to hold a gig-antic amount of songs. and for some of us its more than enough.“iPod, now with longer battery life and another 20 Gigs.” -luke. its an iPod not a replacement for your computer. if you stare at your iPod screen all day, you need a hug.  its ment to play your favorite tracks, in your ears not your eyes. “Due to the components needed, such a product would cost as much as an eMac”-buzzy beetle. iPod not iBook

Posted by sene_ncb on February 6, 2004 at 4:25 PM (CST)

Future Pods

I’d like for Apple to include XM or Sirius satellite radio reception with on-the-fly encoding.  Might be worth a small monthly access fee.

Posted by robert on February 6, 2004 at 3:46 PM (CST)

iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

I just thought I would peruse this thread, having the thought of procuring an ipod!

Looking at some of the caustic comments and naive attitudes I think it might be best for me to stick to my ‘Bush’ radio!!!

Posted by GeoB on February 6, 2004 at 2:31 PM (CST)

How to burn a CD in iTunes

I just burned my first CD from iTunes.  I was successful, however, when the Cd was burned it put all of the songs in random order.

How can I get the playlist to burn the CD EXACTLY in the order the songs are listed?

I would really appreciate some help on this, tried numbering tracks etc and nothing seemed to work.  I never had this problem with MusicMatch.

Posted by Suzi Hellwege on February 6, 2004 at 11:47 AM (CST)

Future Pods

I like the idea of a video iPod but if this video Archos already costs $900 then how much would a classier Apple version cost?

Posted by video Ipod on February 6, 2004 at 11:38 AM (CST)

Future Pods

how about having the album art show on the screen?  Even if it was just a grayscale image, that’d still be cool.

Posted by art on February 6, 2004 at 1:16 AM (CST)

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—continued from last post—

As for enabling users to play their own materials on the video iPod, I dont see any context where Apple (or even MS for now) would release a player that only plays DRMed commercial media. Also average people produced homegrown music way before the Digital Video/iMovie craze, with GarageBand even more than ever. You failed to mention iMovie in the iPod AV part, did you forget about this little video editing app? If Apple releases a video iPod it would naturaly integrate with iMovie ,and probably iPhoto too for stills, so you could transfer your own home movies,including tv shows you recorded for free using a video input if you want, or even reencoded movies you got from the web.

Anyhow, just a lengthy way to say how I feel Quicktime/MPEG4 is the logical choice for an Apple portable video player.  I dare you to think otherwise after reading this article:

Posted by buzzy beetle on February 6, 2004 at 12:04 AM (CST)

Future Pods

I enjoy the overall idea of the article, certainly a better possibility than the pre-mini rumors that seemed to imply that the whole iPod line would get video capabilities. But…you seem to get a little off base about Quicktime and the video iPod. Quicktime is a multimedia architecture that provides standard OS-level means for applications to play/record/edit audio and video. It supports hundreds of media formats. The standard Quicktime file format is a wrapper that can include many codecs, some are/were exclusive like sorenson, but most are open standards. QT handles other “external” formats as is without the QT wrapper, like in the case of a .MPG file that you seem to like so much. And what is the successor to MPEG and MPEG-2? how about MPEG-4? Since QT 6 Apple as been pushing this ISO adopted open standard to be its main format. Even more so, the MPEG4 wrapper/format is heavilly based on QT’s .MOV format…

MPEG4 is looking to become the standard on 3G cellphones and Apple obvious expertise with its own format and having a tried and tested platform (QT) to play/record/edit MPEG4 content makes it the best provider for tools, but nothing prevents other companies to provide such tools. Quicktime is a given in a future Apple portable video device. And just as the iPod also plays MP3s and AIFF, I dont see Apple crippling the portable Quicktime player to only play MPEG4 files. Even if it did, MPEG4 only is still way better than WMA only. MP4 is owned by a consorsium of companies and is an ISO standard, the format is open and documented. WMA is owned by a sole company,Microsoft, wich is not just any kind of company, they happen to dominate the OS, browser and office apps market in the whole computer industry they try to do the same with their WMPlayer, WMA is a closed format that MS can change at will to break the apps that could play it on other platforms/OSes. Its easy to label both as proprietary, like it meant they were the same. MPEG and MP3 are proprietary too, using that same loose definition. The group that owns those formats dont give a damn about wich OS its media plays, nor does it have any particular interest in protecting or breaking a particular app or media player.

Posted by buzzy beetle on February 6, 2004 at 12:03 AM (CST)

Future Pods

Steve Jobs has said that recording video is not a task computers are ideally suited to do because multitasking would degrade the quality of the capture. With this in mind I would like to propose my own vision of a video iPod. This device would consist of two parts:

The first part would contain a colour screen, navigation buttons, DSP for decoding of video, rechargeable battery and an Airport card.

The second part would be a dock that contains a 3.5” hard drive, DSPs for live encoding of video, AV ports and another Airport card.

By un-docking the portable component, users could program the dock to record at specific times and channels. If an internet connection exists in the house, television program guides could be used to make this process more intuitive.

Once the recording is finished, the portable component could be used around the house to receive video from the dock.

Such a system would be targeted specifically at home user because that is where people are most likely to watch television and films. By separating the hard drive and AV connections from the viewing component, the battery can be made to last a long time. Long battery life is vital for any portable viewing, especially for content like sports games and films.

Due to the components needed, such a product would cost as much as an eMac. At this price the product would be ideally suited to those consumers who bought 1st and 2nd generation stand-alone DVD recorders.

It should be noted that the proposed system would be good for standard definition video due to the limitations of current components such as the AirPort cards and hard drives. In time, when AirPort becomes faster and hard drive capacities become bigger, the system could be upgraded to record and play back HDTV signals. This in turn would make it possible to split the product line into a high-end unit and a cheaper, low-end unit, much like the current iPod line.

Posted by Sol on February 5, 2004 at 10:04 PM (CST)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

It is funny how old these comments are, almost a year.  I am not going into a debate if pc’s are better than mac’c.  Even though you pay $5000 for a little cube that sits on your when for the same price you can get a wole lot more with a pc.  I was an iPod skeptic.  I didn’t like apple, if you can’t tell from my tone.  I had a Rio Nitrus then the damn thing fried.  It over heated when I was transfering songs to it.  I regreted getting an iPod because it was apple but I love it.  I have the 15 gb version and think it is the absolute best mp3 player ever.  I have gone through many mp3 players; Archos Juke Box (20 gb), Nomad Juke Boz Zen 3 (40 gb), Rio Nitrus (1.5 gb), Rio 600 (96 mb), and a audiophase mp3/cd player.  I love the AAC audio format, the 128 compression sounds CD quality.  I know that it compresses the audio but it compresses the parts that the human ear can not detect.  So why have a huge file size when you can only hear 1/10 of the notes.  Just carry your CD QUALITY audio in your pocket instead of lugging around four cases that have 20 CD capacity along with a package of batteries and the clunky CD player.  I think it has been enough time to say that the iPod is the smallest (in size not storage) portable mp3 player.  iPod is the best portable mp3 player on the market, period!

Posted by IAmNotHere on February 5, 2004 at 8:21 PM (CST)

Future Pods

The iPod and an FM radio are two entirely different products, I for one would rather have a smaller unit and more battery life than unnecessary functions. With storage getting bigger and bigger most people will have a huge selection of music without wanting to resort to the commercials and low-quality of radio. If Apple really wanted to push the boundaries they could build a digital radio into it - the circuitry in the iPod already is pretty similar - but I’m thinking of the UK perspective, with standards long set and great urban coverage nationwide. Worldwide, it would be near-impossible to implement.

In terms of a ‘sports’ version, I don’t want bulk or features on my iPod for a small minority of active users. As long as it’s shock-proof and reliable there are plenty of aftermarket solutions for waterproofing, shock absorbtion and so on. How many people own off-roaders and never take them off-road?

Posted by viracochas on February 5, 2004 at 7:40 PM (CST)

Future Pods

It would be nice to have a 5 gb player with no moving parts.  Although I have yet to skip my iPod, the skipless possibility would be a good feature.  A iPod video would also be a good product, maybe the same size as the 3 G ipods but stretch the screen across the device and have control features on top of the device.  I have the Archos media center and it is nice, I can take my divx movies with me wherever I go.  I still carry my iPod with me more than the Archos because the size of the iPod gives it more functionality.  It seems that everything Archos makes is over sized.  The Archos Jukebox (20 gb) was like carrying a brick, the video player is like carrying a few of my text books.  If Apple wants to sell more iPods then they need to make cheaper units.  I thinks the iPod mini is overpriced for just 4 gb and 8 hours playback on the battery.  Why spend $250 when most stores are offering the 3 G 10 gb iPod for $259?

Posted by NoName on February 5, 2004 at 7:15 PM (CST)

Future Pods

iPod Pro

I want to be able to dump pictures straight from my digicam on there. Picture view + QT Playback but only via a video out. take it around to a friend’ s + plug it straight into the TV. I’m NOT interested in a colour screen, or viewing pictures on it. Just use it as a carrier, you just no longer need a computer to view.

Recording : Yes please, musicians would love this. But rather than a line in (which would be fairly iffy quality on something that small), allow it to record an incoming FW/USB audio stream.
An audio mag tested the 1st iPod as a portable drive with Logic Audio. They got 8 mono/12 stereo tracks live record/playback. With the higher disk densities this has probably risen. You could attach your MOTU/M-Audio interface to it & record your gig directly onto seperate tracks.

I’m not bothered about direct encoding into MP3/AAC. With 40/60G drives AIFF recording would be fine. You can always compress it back home. Doing recording this way would make it too long winded for the casual user to rip stuff, (they’d need to spend $200 on the audio i/f), while helping people who’d really find it useful (songwriters, producers, DJs etc)...

MiniPod pricing

Did a search here in the UK, Creative’s 4G Muvo Player sells for

Posted by steveo on February 5, 2004 at 6:53 PM (CST)

Future Pods

Would there be a big enough market to justify making an iPod Pro? It doesn’t seem like DJ’s and a handful of others would buy enough Pro’s to make the endeavour profitable for Apple.

Posted by grandmasterfunk on February 5, 2004 at 6:48 PM (CST)

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OK, there’s a lot of talk about market share, comparison with other players etc etc…

But the only thing that’ll convince a sizable portion of the people who don’t already have an iPod is PRICE.

Make at least one version good and cheap. Dirt cheap. Like 100 to 150 max cheap.

Posted by zpok on February 5, 2004 at 6:09 PM (CST)

Future Pods

umm the ipod mini is not overpriced or anything, if it was then how come it has been on apple’s top seller list for weeks :P

Posted by Jeremy on February 5, 2004 at 2:59 PM (CST)

Future Pods

“DJs” using iPods are just lame - you might as well be DJing at weddings. There is a reason real DJs use vinyl - CDs barely cut it and that’s after a decade of development of CD mixing desks.

Posted by Clubber on February 5, 2004 at 2:18 PM (CST)

Future Pods

To Luke - DJ’s wouldn’t play (exclusively) on the subway; they are increasingly using iPods in clubs.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on February 5, 2004 at 12:46 PM (CST)

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I already have most of the iPod Pro - but it’s called the iHP-140. Truly this is the Rolls Royce of players.

Posted by iPodPro on February 5, 2004 at 12:19 PM (CST)

Future Pods

I want an iPod for the home.  Somehow, I want to play everything in my iTunes library (i.e. Protected AAC) through my home stereo without having to have a full-blown desktop computer hooked up to it.  Currently I can use an iPod but no iPod can hold my entire library.  Third-party solutions out there are nice but they don’t play tunes bought from the iTMS.  Apple either needs to come out with a product to let me do this or license these third-party companies to play Protected AAC.

Posted by hondo77 in Southern California on February 5, 2004 at 11:54 AM (CST)

Future Pods

iPod Pro?  The iPod is pro now.  Time scaling and pitch adjustment would be nice, but I don’t think DJs want to scratch and mix on the subway, and if they do, they’ll get (already have) laptops.  Also, give me one instance where you would be able to take advantage of Dolby 5.1 coming out of an iPod, other than transfering files from place to place, which you can do now.  Line in recording would be great, but they won’t do it.

iPod 2 won’t be called iPod 2, it will be called “iPod, now with longer battery life and another 20 Gigs.” 

No way they make a video iPod in 2004, probably not in ‘05 either, and my gut feeling is never, but it might be the tunafish I ate yesterday.

Ah…  Now the iPod Mini updates I agree with.  When they can make it with 4G of flash for $250 or less, they will.  Adding FM would be sweet, but I doubt you’ll be able to record. 

My prediction, if the iPod Mini and other 1-5 G HD-based players sell well and help bring hardware prices down, we could see a $99 iPod in 18 months.

Posted by Luke on February 5, 2004 at 10:48 AM (CST)

How to create smart playlists in iTunes

Anyone got any tips on specifying a running order for smart playlists that are created on your iPod? It just seems to always default to alphabetical/album title, even though you can sort by any field in iTunes.

Posted by Chris Waller on February 5, 2004 at 5:39 AM (CST)

How to create smart playlists in iTunes

azdude, in your review you noted that all criteria are treated as “AND”, but in itunes 4 for oxX, i can select AND for multiple criteria or i can choose OR.

also, Mark, i believe if you make an on the go list, my itunes (osx) automatically syncs it to itunes naming it “on-the-go 1” or something, and if you rate a song on ipod it changes the rating in itunes, same for question one. however this is probably only for people like me who select “automatically sync entire library”, which is not what you want to do…i believe there is a program that can help you witht his, (i think it was posted on the front page maybe a week ago?) but i am not positive.

Posted by andy on February 3, 2004 at 7:11 PM (CST)

A look at the iPod mini

The mini is pretty cool, but not my cup of tea. I have about 1GB of music, selectivly culled from my entire CD collection, some audibooks and downloads from iTunes on my 20 GB. Why do people carry around music they will never listen to? I don’t know. But I’m happy with all my extra space- I could record every single lecture I sit for for years and have them immediatly accessable, or extract pictures from my digital camera on trips, and still have enough room for music. Even 4 GB is great, 13 hours of music! If apple releases a white (as opposed to silver) mini, I’d buy it. The colors do irk me a little- they bring to mind easter eggs and such. The iPod, and Apple in general, survive because of the interface, lightyears ahead of the others. I just think the people who bash it are kinda jealous…

Posted by esra in PA on February 3, 2004 at 4:18 PM (CST)

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