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iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

I’m not MAD or rather Mac.

But kudos to Apple for bringing the Ipod to PC users.
I have been a PC user for ages and not ready to switch to MAC anytime or never.
Iadmire Mac designs and stuffs but products tend to be very litmited.
As a PC user, I can upgrade the parts of my PC easily at an affordable rates.

The Ipod is truly the 1st ever product that I buy from Apple. When I learnt that Ipod is catered to PC, I went for it.
Now, I’m enjoying as much as the MAC users.
Even the PC softwares support are almost on par to MAC softwares for Ipod.

Why resent towards PC users ? Afterall, we use the same mouse and keyboard.

rgds

Posted by MWang20 on October 4, 2003 at 6:45 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Nero 6 will rip and encode CDs to AAC quickly and easily in Windows. Now if there was just a decent AAC decoder for Winamp…

Posted by RedFive on October 4, 2003 at 4:36 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Just bought the new 40go IPOD
What can I say. Great this is a small toy but why Apple has decided to change the nav system, just to add a nice red color on each button?
This is not so friendly than the first IPOD generation.
I am disappointed about that new product.

Posted by JY on October 3, 2003 at 12:20 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

iPodReducedFeatureset;

Yes the iPOD doesn’t incorporate these features…but who really wants or uses these features anyway. The iPOD is aimed at a general market where people just want to listen to MP3s on-the-move. And the iPOD does this very well, by meeting its purpose in a compact and stylish way. Thats the one thing I like about the iPOD is it isn’t overclutted with features and is easy to use.

Posted by slashjunior on October 3, 2003 at 5:27 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Yeah. I own 10GB iRiver since the first day they were available here.. Key feaures:

standard USB storage class device, no proprietary crap like Apple or Creative - plug in to any computer with USB, works fine with Linux

you can browse the contents of the drive hierarchically, subdirs and all, no database crap like Creative Nomad Zen or iPod (though you can browse through your mp3 files via a database based on ID3 tags, too)

you can use it to transfer files from one computer to another

HQ Li-Pol battery, 16 hours runtime

nice BIG display, nice display on the remote

you can even read text files on your iRiver while listening to music

iRiver’s great customer support - they actually listen to their customers and base their firmware upgrades upon customer suggestions (hence OGG, even when it was very difficult to implement in embedded hardware)

Posted by HappyCamper on September 30, 2003 at 2:27 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

This one looks nice: iHP-200.

20GB
Plays Oggs
3D immersive sound
Voice recording
eBook support
FM Tuner

Dimensions: Approx. 60(W) X 19(D) X 105(H)mm
Weight: Approx. 160g

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/337/C2092/
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/2092_large.jpg

Posted by iRiver on September 30, 2003 at 2:21 PM (CDT)

iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

And the SmartList and Playlist editor also rocks. You have a couple of dozen of pre-rolled SmartList rules, and you can make others, then encapsulate them and process them sequentially.

And the Playing Now feature offers a variety of options to interact with your Playlist:

Play Now
Add (to beginning)
Add (as next to play)
Add (play now)
Add (shuffled)
Add (shuffle all)
Replace (shuffled)

and so on. Of course, you can define your default behavior for single clicks, double clicks, and option clicks. Not to mention that MC also supports Play Zones, so you can have different default behavior based on location within your house, ie, which room it is in or which set of speakers it is playing out of.

Posted by itunessucks on September 30, 2003 at 2:15 PM (CDT)

iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

You’re missing the big picture about Media Center. It is a *huge* program and yes, can be overwhelming at first. What it’s counting on is for you to either select a UI that you prefer from the bank of pre-rolled skins, or to design your own.

I know for most Apple people it’s a bit scary to imagine that *you have control* of your interface, but this is indeed true with Media Center.

If you don’t like the default interface, you can change it. It is infinitely skinnable, and has three modes: mini, mega, and fullscreen. You can toggle between them.

One very cool UI feature is that you can configure your own HTML-based display templates. So you can make up your own jukebox skins, embed Flash or Java based programs, and read in the ID3 tags to display on screen info.

The Visualization Studio could be a whole complete standalone program. You can program sequential or looping animations using a simple symbolic, algorithmic point-and-click interface.

The Tagging Library can run either as a paned-approach (ala modern IDEs) or as a pop-up modal display. And the Tagging Editor is a marvel of interface design, made for rapid updates of large file quantities, with the option to fine-grain changes and batch process the updates either to the metabase, or directly into the source files.

Also, don’t forget that you can run Media Center as a server on a media box, control it using the built-in web server, and hang any number of clients off it to stream your media across your LAN or the internet. So in effect it can have zero interface!

Posted by itunessucks on September 30, 2003 at 2:10 PM (CDT)

iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

I saw Media Jukebox/center in action…....what a mess, looks like a programmer joke….to much to see, to much to keep in mind. Really bad human interface implementation.
I’m still waiting for a real iTunes challenger.
I’m still waiting for iTunes lands to my peecee.

Posted by Mozart on September 30, 2003 at 12:43 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

we heard you the first time

Posted by Jimmy2Times on September 29, 2003 at 12:52 PM (CDT)

How to fill a 5Gb iPod

i would like to know what i should buy after i get my 10GB ipod and what is the difference between all of the ipods and where should i buy mine.

Posted by JustinDorn on September 28, 2003 at 2:18 PM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

One thing I hate about iPods is that they are database-driven (through iTunes). This is fine when you are beginning with audio and know jack about MP3s, but when you want to build up a complete collection its a pain in the a**. iTunes hides too much of the details from me. I am *this close* to trading up to a Neuros or Archos or Karma that will let me mount the device as a simple hard drive on my deskop and move file folders at will.

That way I could convert the files easily without going through all this iTunes ritual clicking nonsense.

In general a database-based system
plugs the songs into a database with fields like title, group, genre and so
on. The plus is you can re-arrange the presentation by, for example, genre,
instead of whatever hierarchy you have them arranged on your hard drive. The
minus is that you have to run all your music through some sort of host-based
software. That software is where Apples does such evil as DRM.

A file-based system works just like, say, WinAmp on a PC. It plays files
that contain MP3 sound data. The plus is, of course, that you only need copy
the files to your machine to have them available to play. The minus is, they
present in the file tree hierarchy you’ve specified. Most of the minus is
overcome by playlists, particularly in conjunction with a programs that can build playlists according to genre or other ID3 info.

I prefer the file based architecture. No host PC software is required and the audio player can function on its own. That’s what held up “on the go” playlists on the iPod for so long, this crazy reliance on the “socializing” over-reaching iTunes and the necessity to redock with the Mac to change stuff on the iPod.

Posted by BetterMP3 on September 25, 2003 at 7:28 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

One thing I hate about iPods is that they are database-driven (through iTunes). This is fine when you are beginning with audio and know jack about MP3s, but when you want to build up a complete collection its a pain in the a**. iTunes hides too much of the details from me. I am *this close* to trading up to a Neuros or Archos or Karma that will let me mount the device as a simple hard drive on my deskop and move file folders at will.

in general a database-based system
plugs the songs into a database with fields like title, group, genre and so
on. The plus is you can re-arrange the presentation by, for example, genre,
instead of whatever hierarchy you have them arranged on your hard drive. The
minus is that you have to run all your music through some sort of host-based
software. That software is where Apples does such evil as DRM.

A file-based system works just like, say, WinAmp on a PC. It plays files
that contain MP3 sound data. The plus is, of course, that you only need copy
the files to your machine to have them available to play. The minus is, they
present in the file tree hierarchy you’ve specified. Most of the minus is
overcome by playlists, particularly in conjunction with a programs that can build playlists according to genre or other ID3 info.

I prefer the file based architecture. No host PC software is required and the audio player can function on its own. That’s what held up “on the go” playlists on the iPod for so long, this crazy reliance on the “socializing” over-reaching iTunes and the necessity to redock with the Mac to change stuff on the iPod.

Posted by BetterMP3 on September 25, 2003 at 7:26 PM (CDT)

It's an iPod World at Macworld

isnt this a bit old   now its 10 30 and 40 gig ipods why dont you give this the flick and have some NEW news

Posted by ryan on September 22, 2003 at 11:56 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:56 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:55 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:55 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:53 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:51 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:40 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:40 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:40 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Hey, just wanted to commend t-slice for his saint-like patience and tact… i would have lost my temper with a few posts by people who shall remain nameless. *cough*noname*sneeze* funny cold i’ve got…  anyway, thanks for the great article, and good luck!

Posted by veruca_salt on September 21, 2003 at 10:39 PM (CDT)

iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

iTunes is a nice starter program for beginners, but on Windows you have the option of using Media Jukebox/Center—this is the benchmark against which all other Jukebox software is found wanting.

http://www.musicex.com/mediacenter/

And yes, it syncs with the iPod, Smartlists, streaming, WMA/MP3/Quicktime/Real/OGG support, transcoding, visuals to die for, supports Tivo, and infinitely customizable. iTunes is a toy by comparison. Don’t be delusional—there’s so few choices for the MacOS that iTunes looks good. Big fish, small pond.

Posted by itunessucks on September 21, 2003 at 2:13 PM (CDT)

iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

aaron, people preach when they are frightened.. are you frightened.

ipod is not going to make people switch to mac. software compatability and the ability to turn ‘dumb end user’ mode off will make people switch to mac.

sam

Posted by sam the man on September 21, 2003 at 1:03 AM (CDT)

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