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MWNY03: A look at iPod accessories

The skylite iskin wasnt available at the show, and my order online didnt go through and I missed out on the big sale and contacted them and asked what happened.  That was two weeks ago, I haven’t gotten a response yet :(

Posted by Proud 15GB iPod Owner on August 10, 2003 at 2:51 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

My new iPod is great, but WATCH OUT for iTunes 4 if Apple Software Update asks is you want to update to version 4.0.1 when you next boot in OS X and are connected to the Net!

The update itself is slow but straightforward. However, in the process of updating, to my surprise and agony, Apple’s
updater removed all the music I had previously imported into iTunes 4. Since I own the CDs, replacing it is easy, but it takes time I’d rather do something else with.

Fortunately I did not have the iPod connected when the update occurred! Would it have messed up the iPod too?

Danal in AA

Posted by Danal S on August 10, 2003 at 9:21 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

wow, I just got my 15GB yesterday, and I LOVE it!!!  IPOD is really a great product, for PCs AND MACs…  That said, while some problems are definitely related to XP, I don’t think it’s all XP’s fault.  Apple probably just hasn’t nailed it with their software.  Give it some time, and maybe they’ll get it right…  MusicMatch actually works fine with my XP, but I’m not so lucky on the Ephpod side…  maybe I’ll have to reinstall it.  Or maybe I’ll be looking into that new Toshiba mp3 player… it might just be the opposition we’ve been expecting for IPOD since forever…

by the way, Charles, it’s “YOU’RE”, not “YOUR”...  How many times do you have to be told?  It seems, with all YOUR gramatical errors, that while there’s a possibility of you being as qualified for issues regarding MACs and PCs as you said you are (at least as much as one of what Albert said being true), YOU’RE definitely not very good with English…

Posted by lilteyang on August 10, 2003 at 4:26 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Getting an iPod was the best computer-related experience this year. But Oh, my!—does it need more of a manual than the little info sheets Apple supplies!

How fortunate we are that David Pogue’s wonderful “Missing Manual” books now include a new item, and it covers the iPod thoroughly. The author and series editor are excellent. If you don’t know about this book or the series and the links to related software, go right now to—one of the best sites ever. Lots of info about the books and easy download options for software.

Posted by David S on August 9, 2003 at 9:56 AM (CDT)

Experiment: iPod Video Capture?

ArchosAV plays and records MPEG4, no problem. THey are on to their 2nd generation of handhelds now.

Posted by ArchosAV! on August 8, 2003 at 7:19 PM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

my poem:
if your really really lazy like me
dont bother and stick with mp3

Posted by ti on August 8, 2003 at 3:49 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?


Have you ever heard of EphPod? - it replaces stupid MMJB and it’s free.

Kind regards.

Posted by tester001 on August 8, 2003 at 5:54 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

You can use Media Center to rip/transcode a lot of formats, and script for MP3 or AAC output to iPod
iPod User Guide for Media Center 9;action=display;num=1058463517

Posted by lossy not Lossy? on August 7, 2003 at 6:39 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

well said spagetti. Absolutely right… far too much of that type of stupid comment can be found in forums discussing the war etc.

Posted by jrandyc on August 7, 2003 at 10:15 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

I just wandered into this forum by chance, hoping to find a few reviews for the ipod, but instead a fight is going on between mac and windows geeks! what a bunch of losers! who gives a fuck, go out, get pissed, find yourselves a girlfriend and get some of the good stuff. lifes too short!

Posted by anon on August 7, 2003 at 8:02 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

I have been posting in this forum a specific iPod issue and ‘bouncy guy’ has been somewhat helpful.  I just read the above comment by ‘boosh’.

All in, it comes down to this: Apple brings us this phenominal product, iPod, but adopts a “superior” format (aac - still wondering how superior it actually is vs mp3); yet, this format forces us to only use an iPod.  I understand the marketing element - the squeeze.  My issue is that a hard-drive based music player, like the iPod, is not practical for active people, i.e joggers.  Joggers are a large representation of the iPod using public.  The iPod skips & freezes when it is in motion.  How freaken hard would it be for Apple to put out a ‘keychain’/‘micro’ player (like the iRiver, Rio Sport, Kanguru) that plays aac and uses flash- is not hard drive based? It doesn’t need to have iPod-like capacity - just a nice little, compact player.  It would not cannibalize the iPod; it would round off the product offering.  In fact, with refernce to ‘boosh’ above, I would own both and I would bet that most Mac people would as well.

Posted by Matt Dermer on August 7, 2003 at 7:45 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

I think someone made a rather stupid about how people who buy Macs are somehow smarter or better other people. This person may be thinking of a recent study by a major newspaper (it was sort of a sidebar piece) showing that on average, Mac users are better educated and more affluent than PC users. But this has more to do with the fact that Apple products cost more. Think about it—of course higher-priced items are usually purchased by people who are more affluent, and overall, people who have more money tend to be better educated. It doesn’t mean that there aren’t well-educated, affluent people who use PCs. There’s no point in arguing against the statistics, which are pretty clear, but at the same time, there’s no need to use the statistics to make other people feel stupid. By the way, my iPod works great; I take it everywhere. I don’t think it would be “better” or “more advanced” with any more features or controls. It does the things it’s supposed to do, and it does them very, very well. As far as I’m concerned, Honda may introduce a hundred more great cars, but none of them will be an Ferrari. Know what I mean?

Posted by Boosh on August 7, 2003 at 4:12 AM (CDT)

New iPod Reactions: Accessory Makers and an Author

dude, a remote with an lcd readout would be too big, making it annoying.  a slim remote is better, and besides most people only use the remote to navigate through play lists, not an entire collection, that is what the scroll wheel is for.

Posted by phil jude on August 6, 2003 at 1:33 PM (CDT)

MWNY03: A look at iPod accessories

LimeWire rules!!!!

Posted by limewire on August 5, 2003 at 10:26 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

“bouncy guy”

I understand the value of the USB based Keychain mp3 device, but iTunes does not export to them.  Thus, the only way I see getting music on the iRiver device is to burn an audio CD from iTunes, then encode the files as mp3 using a non-iTunes encoder and store them on my hard drive, then transfer them to the iRiver device via some other, non-iTunes software…

Very involved!  How and with what process/software do you accomplish this?


Posted by Matt Dermer on August 5, 2003 at 9:57 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

I have one question to ask to Charles - do yuo weigh less than 20 stones?

Posted by big fat bobby taylor on August 5, 2003 at 9:28 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

FAQ seems old, there’s now an OSX and OS9 music manager for the iRiver

To manage such devices with iTunes you’d have to rely on Apple or third-party to provide a suitable driver.

These drives, like most of the flash RAM players, also function as basic USB thumb drives—you can mount them on your desktop as regular (though small) USB drives.

Posted by bouncy guy on August 1, 2003 at 7:06 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Three cheers for T-Slice.  Not only does he have awesome taste in mp3 players, but he’s helping people out!  It’s one thing to say “I hate this war” and “Free those Iraqis
but this guy is actually DOING something.  Hurray!  If only the world would see Americans like him, eh?

Posted by Aakash on August 1, 2003 at 1:44 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Response to bouncy guy re: Check Out Key Chain mp3:

Thank you fo the advice.  I was checking out the mp3 players from Wired.  On iRiver’s web site it says in the FAQ area that 100 & 300 series are not Mac OSX compatible - is this correct? 

The Kanguru product, also recommended in Wired, looks like a good fit.  But, I am wondering:

1) How do I load the player with iTunes as my music program and the AAU format?  It would seem that I would need to maintain iTunes and another program for the mp3s?

2) Why do I need an iPod?  I really only want music for on the go - as in when I am jogging?

Very confused and second guessing all of my Mac decisions. Help!

Posted by Matt Dermer on July 31, 2003 at 9:10 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

thats cool :D What bands do you like?

Posted by Patrick M. in Kuwait on July 31, 2003 at 8:19 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Patrick, your musical tastes describe me almost the same!

though rock/metal is not my first choice as it seems with you, I am getting to like more and more.. all other stuff you said fits me exactly…

“rock/metal. some techno, some lounge music, and a little bit of rap, not a lot though”

Posted by spirit on July 31, 2003 at 8:16 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Hal9000, your words are well noted, but lack any real substance. Yes, Apple lost market share in areas where they once dominated. But it would be ridiculous to think that Apple would repeat these mistakes. Those mistakes were made with very bad management, who are all gone now. Steve Jobs isn’t going to let this slip through his hands like you think!

Posted by Charles on July 31, 2003 at 1:28 PM (CDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

noname should shut his trap because the american government is doing alot for Iraq and for the middle-east. If you want to talk about your political views then go somewhere else.

Didn’t you just expound your own political view there, then tell everyone who doesn’t agree with you to get lost?

That doesn’t seem politically neutral to me. If yhu are going to inject your own ideologies then you should accept that other people will as well.

Posted by MakeSpaghettiNotWar on July 31, 2003 at 1:09 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

If anyone has any advice for me/can recommend freeze & skip prevention when jogging

No HD-based MP3 player can really withstand prolonged, sustained bouncy motions. Not to mention that, really, these little devices don’t have RAID 1 and all that reading/writing from the disk during heavy activity is risky. And you *really* don’t want to have to try to source a replacement for an iPod’s proprietary hard drive yourself.

Keep the iPod, but also get a solid-state keychain MP3 player for heavy activity. They are a lot smaller and cheaper than an iPod as well, but they do only store a couple of album’s worth of music! I like the iRiver ones. There are some reviewed in the current Wired as “Key Chain MP3 Players

Posted by bouncy guy on July 31, 2003 at 1:02 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Not necessarily the largest marketshare, cheaper alternatives will win out there, but the best overall models in terms of form and features: small and sexy, high resolution screen, best backlighting…

I don’t think you’re seeing the bigger picture. Other HD-based jukeboxes have added or are adding microphone dictation, recording, video record and playback, full-colour screens, bluetooth, and battery lives 2-3 times longer then V3 iPods. And they do this at price points ranging from around the same as an iPod to less than half the price. Against this the iPOds offer a couple of ounces and half an inch.

If you look past the retail dollars spent, then iPods accounted for just over 10% of MP3 player sales last XMas, and I’d argue that as their distinctive style is copies, and features added, then you’re going to see a repeat of the Macs long slide in retail sales percentages and usability advantage. Apple is a great starter, but seems to slowly kill its best products through benign neglect, incremental upgrades, and excessive pricing.

US Retail Unit Market Share for MP3 Players Q4 2002 %
RCA 12.95
RIO 11.27
APPLE 11.23
All Other 47.39

Posted by HAL9000 on July 31, 2003 at 12:55 PM (CDT)

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