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Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

It is true, that it isn’t true “CD Quality” but the majority of people can’t tell the difference. I have a great ear, and I can bearly tell the difference. I will say this though, it is better then WMA. The Real audio format that you can use with Real Jukebox is pretty good too. But the truth of the matter is though, nothing is ever going to be as good as the original. But there is such a small margin of discernable difference between these “lossy” formats and the CD that it really doesn’t matter to at least 95% of the consumers. I would love to hear though, what a true audiophile thinks of this new Windows Media Lossless codec that MSFT has been bragging about.

Can someone who doesn’t like AAC at 128k try out Windows Lossless and tell us what you think? That would be interesting.

Posted by Charles on July 12, 2003 at 2:35 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

I’ll be studying Graphic Design t-slice.

Posted by Patrick M. in Kuwait on July 12, 2003 at 1:05 AM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Tir-Na-Nog or Bust what you say is true.

Just don’t say that it is CD quality as Byron did at the top and as so many others reviewers do.

Posted by Roland on July 11, 2003 at 9:53 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Patrick,

What will you be studying in Lebanon?

Posted by t-slice on July 11, 2003 at 7:30 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Nasir,

Thank you for the comments. What is one old Skool rap/hip hop song that sticks out for you?

Posted by t-slice on July 11, 2003 at 7:29 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Andrewinla,

No Problem,

Send me an E-Mail to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) and I will send you all the info I have.

Sorry to hear about your job.  Hopefully we can get you on board here.

Posted by t-slice on July 11, 2003 at 7:27 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Can you believe that you guys are actuallly listening to some guy who is so ashamed to give a name tht he puts noname.  Well anyways, I love the pictures it gives you a different perspective.  I hope you got that iPod filled because it looks like thesers nothing to do there.  BTW I love old Skool rap.

Posted by Nasir Jones on July 11, 2003 at 2:57 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

T-slice. I will be unemployed in Sept (my company closing in CA and moving to NC. How did you get involved in your line of work. I’d love to be there helping you out and come Sept I have no problem signing up!

Posted by Andrewinla on July 11, 2003 at 9:56 AM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

AAC at 128 is fine for me. I can’t tell the difference between that and the cd.

Posted by Charles on July 11, 2003 at 8:52 AM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Roland, I dig what you’re saying, but if CD-audio doesn’t meet your needs professionally then a digital version of that audio won’t either. But were not talking about professional-quality audio here are we?

Posted by Tir-Na-Nog or Bust! on July 11, 2003 at 8:51 AM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Well, I’m a club DJ who works from regular media and my Powebook, and MP3s encoded at 192 sound just fine over various club soundsystems.

Posted by Tir-Na-Nog or Bust! on July 11, 2003 at 8:48 AM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Well, just give economics some time to take care of that. Prices will slowly trickle down.

Posted by Charles on July 11, 2003 at 7:53 AM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Someone.
Its not my hifi I’m talking about. I’m a professional sound engineer. I’m just telling you that lossy compressed audio cannot be as good as PCM based audio such as CD. A digital output will help a little but an MP3 file has less audio information than a CD, something must be missing. Its garbage in, garbage out.
For professionals CD isn’t good enough we use 24 bit audio sampled at 48Khz or 96Khz. Anyone trying to use audio seriously wouldn’t even consider going near MP3. I still listen to MP3s but just for convenience not for quality.

Posted by Roland Hemming on July 11, 2003 at 7:52 AM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Thank you Patrick.

Posted by t-slice on July 11, 2003 at 4:12 AM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

we all appreciate (well I do at least) what youre doing there t-slice. Just keep up the good work and keep us updated with info on your iPod :D!

Posted by Patrick M. in Kuwait on July 11, 2003 at 1:49 AM (PDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Even though prices are getting cheaper for hard drive space, it’s still three times as much as I want to pay for the amount of space that I would need for doing AIFF files for all my songs. That would be the ideal and i would do it in a second if I could but it’s still financially unfeasible at this point.
I have about 400 gigs of hard drive space attached to one of my computers. I have songs ripped to extreme lame and I currently use this for burning to audio cd’s. I do this believing that this will give me the best quality during the “un-compression.” I’m still having some issues with this.
Now that i have an iPod, I want to try to get as much as I can on it. I’m ripping songs at the 160 AAC format to see if I’m fine with it. My musical tastes vary considerably from pop/rock/soul songs (40’s to the present), jazz, hawaiian, film music, japanese, new age, etc. I want to get as close as I can to the 7500 suggested limit while getting “good enough” quality. Hey, I want to dial up the appropriate “soundtrack” to whatever’s before my eyes at any given moment! I’m listening to songs I ripped last night as I type this and most seem to be holding up. I’m more disappointed that I’m occasionally getting bad rips than anything else…

Posted by fanihi on July 10, 2003 at 11:51 PM (PDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

I repeat.  Make you life simple.  If you all had just ripped to 256Kbps MP3 or better in the first place youwouldn’t have to be worrying about all these things. There is no AAC or MP3 bit rate that will sound any better to human ears than 256Kbps. Many have shown that this is essentially identical in sound quality to CDs. Sure the files are bigger than 128KBps but they’re still a lot smaller than AIFFs. Besides hard drive space and even flash memory is cheap. Time (spent re-ripping) isn’t!! Up your sampling rate now so you won’t have to worry about inevitable codec improvements.

Posted by [email protected] on July 10, 2003 at 11:29 PM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

iPod is the best music player in the world…and unfortunately too expensive for me and many many people…

Posted by pierre on July 10, 2003 at 11:24 PM (PDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

xp isn’t the worst system for running iPod, xp is simply the worst system…

Posted by pierre on July 10, 2003 at 11:21 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

I don’t blame iPod lounge for purposely writing those captions I just believe that they were mistaken.  I didn’t think it was going to raise this much hell, thats why I just left it as it was.  But as you see that clearly wasn’t the case.

Sorry iPodlounge, I should have submitted the captions also.  I will next time.

Posted by t-slice on July 10, 2003 at 10:51 PM (PDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

I’m sorry, I should have spent the time more time in explaining my wish rather than put in such a half-baked statement.
What is “CD Tracks?” Is that an invisible file similar to the CD log used on earlier Mac OS’s?
My problem is that I have three Mac’s at home that I use to rip cd’s. I also have access to a lab of G4’s where i can rip a large amount of cd’s in a relatively short amount of time. As you can imagine, I have a lot of cd’s so keeping track of what was ripped where is a problem.
I wanted a database that I could view and update. I also wanted to be able to update/change track info even after they’ve been ripped. (Is that possible?) Sometimes I rip with a cursory check and effect repairs at a later date.
I know you can export info from iTunes which is helpful since iTunes doesn’t have enough fields for me. But there’s the problem of having the information flow the other way…
Of course, if such a database was created, it would be great if it could be shared over the web with others interested in quality information. Or at least the ability to download other people’s allowing you to import what you want.

Posted by fanihi on July 10, 2003 at 9:25 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

that’s some pretty shoddy journalism on behalf of whoever posted the captions to your pictures to assume that those two blips in the left hand corner of the upper-most picture were in fact ” two A1 Abrams tanks and a Bradley fighting vehicle.”  They could have just as easily been two tents and a freakin’ lorry.  chalk one up for ipodlounge.

Posted by deathwolf on July 10, 2003 at 8:24 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

Captain AL,

I’m glad you got a replacement. That would have sucked.

Good luck with the lanyard.

Posted by t-slice on July 10, 2003 at 7:59 PM (PDT)

iPod Adventures in the Middle East: Part I

OK!  Listen up.  I submitted my pictures to iPod lounge WITHOUT CAPTIONS!!!!!  The webmaster put the captions on the pictures thinking they were U.S. Army Tanks.  They are not!  They are actually Jordanian personel carriers and a anti aircraft tank.  If any one kept up with current events they would know that there was NO AMERICAN ARMOR UNITS stationed in Jordan.  So…..These are not American Tanks…..These pictures are not showing the “MIGHTY US ARMY WAR MACHINE OUT TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE” They are simply Jordanian army units placed on their border to protect them from a tyrant who has no reguard for human life.  Remember Kuwait?  The Jordanians sure do!  And they are not going to let that happen to them.  Not one of my pictures showed American Equipment.  They were captions placed there by misinformation.  Now I suggest that you either read up on your current and pollitical events or just please shut up!  It’s getting old.  Take your comments to CNN and leave this site to stories about iPod. 

Oh and by the way…..While I am out here in the 130 degree heat packaging, loading and sending Food Supplies, Medical Supplies and Aid to the people in Iraq…...What the hell are you doing to help them? Really….what are you doing?  Sitting at your computer and ######## doesn’t do the people of Iraq any great justice.  If you really want to help get your ### over here and pitch in.

Posted by t-slice on July 10, 2003 at 7:55 PM (PDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Hey, I got so far down the thread, I plain FORGOT John had already mentioned this script!!! Sorry! :

Posted by Doug Adams on July 10, 2003 at 11:14 AM (PDT)

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