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Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Albert can’t even figure out that the byline in this forum comes AFTER the message, not before it.

Posted by Joey J in Chesterfield MO USA on May 27, 2003 at 9:20 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

I guess you just have all the answers don’t you? You must be the magic 8 Ball of the internet. Tell me, if I turn you upside down and shake you, will you tell me when XP or any other Windows OS will have a fix for the dreaded Buffer Overflow problem that they have been fixing over and over again for years now? Or maybe I have actually used XP, and OS X, as well as having beta tested XP not from the stupid public release, but as a beta tester, and did the same with 2000. I doubt there is much you can educate me on, but telling me that XP handles everything perfectly is a joke. Telling me you had all this crap happen to you at the Apple Store is a lie. I could only see that happening if there was any sign of abuse, which wouldn’t surprise me either from someone so tempermental. But thanks for your time, and I applaud your ability to be able to tell who said what on this website, your logic skills are astounding. In behalf of ever Mac User, and I, let me congratulate you in proving once again, that Mac Users are brighter.

Posted by Charles on May 26, 2003 at 4:28 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Albert, it was me saying that your making up the Apple Store thing. You probably have nothing better to do with your time, or maybe your one of the tempermental affeminate wusses that go nuts, and fly off the handle when every little thing goes their way, so to get the company back for your little temper tantrum, you make up all kinds of garbage about the problem to get attention, and some level of sympathy. As for XP, XP is very very tempermental. I have done multi-GB file transfers to other computers from XP, only to have it crash right in the middle of the transfer. I have had XP lock up, and when it started back up, it didn’t recognize the keyboard, and only the mouse, so I had to restart the keyboard, then uninstall the computer, restart the computer once again with the keyboard connected, in hopes that it will recognize it. I also know SEVERAL people that have had problems with XP REFUSING to delete files on a USB Harddrive, because something was corrupt in one of the files. We ended up having to connect the drive to a Mac to get it to format into FAT, then hooked it back up to the PC. Should I continue little Alberto? How about Microsoft’s claim that XP and 2000’s stability issues are all related to driver support? Wow, this is interesting considering Linux and BSD are running all the same Video Cards, and Sound Cards and ETC with a lot of the drivers written by people in the open source community, not even the manufactorer, and some how Linux is still very stable especially in comparison to the pile of garbage that is XP. What about the 30,000 KNOWN bugs that were in 2000 when it shipped? I will continue this in my next comment

Posted by Charles on May 26, 2003 at 4:28 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Joey J,

Thanks for your intelligent discourse. 

You’re right.  I’ve never had problems with my iPod, and I was able to get an exchange with no problems at the Apple store.  I just like to make up these problems and create outlandish stories for people to respond to.  I have nothing better to do than to waste my time troubleshooting an iPod with no problems, sitting at the Apple store to waste the Genius’ time, and discuss it in this forum.  Oh yeah, all of those people in the Apple forum and the iPodlounge forum are just full of crap too. 

Oh, so there’s only so much Apple can do with XP, huh?  I guess every other peripheral on the PC must be just as problematic.  Maybe my digital camera won’t work.  Maybe my camcorder will lock up.  Maybe this keyboard will suddenly fail and cause me to have to realsjdf;lsajdlfsadjflsadjflsadfldsjfldsflasdjf;lsadf;lsahfdsahfssadkfhjkfkjfkfkkfkhxjygsgd

Posted by Albert in aalsdj on May 26, 2003 at 4:04 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

I tried posting this topic for several days and they deleted it. This time someoen else has started it. THANK GOD. Maybe they will leave it this time!!! Anyways. it is important that everyone give their opinions about this topic! And do it soon![email protected]@.3bc31956/3


Posted by Ben in Chicago on May 26, 2003 at 8:39 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

I have had so many problems with my new 30GB iPod in XP that I decided I can’t wait for iTunes for Windows. I’m going to buy a G4 eMac just so I can manage my iPod better.

It’s not XP’s fault, in my opinion. Other companies have few problems making FireWire peripherals for the Windows platform that work on all machines. Apple is just spoiled by previously only having to deal with its own hardware.

It’s much easier to be innovative and stable when you CREATE the standard and no one else can use it.

Windows is just an MS-DOS program and has to run on thousands of different computers configurations from different companies. It’s amazing it works at all.

Posted by Joey J in Chesterfield MO USA on May 26, 2003 at 7:57 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

I agree with comments made by Joey J. I have re-ripped several times with my latest discovery of the latest and greatest. I have settled on keeping copies of my CDs in .aiff format (uncompressed) and AAC versions of the same for my iPod.  I’ll keep the originals and batch convert should some other better compression come along.

Posted by Randy Decker in Vancouver on May 25, 2003 at 10:29 PM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Just bought the 15gb 2 weeks ago.  I am a first time ipod owner.  I think the ipod is the most wonderful design for music.  The only thing I am disappointed in, is sometimes the screen freezes and i have to reset it.  I read 2 books on the ipod and they all explained about the things that could go wrong with it.  I’m scared about that in the future, but for now am very satisfied.  One other thing I also don’t like how touch sensitive the buttons are, but the design is unique and fun to use.

Posted by Jennifer on May 25, 2003 at 9:53 PM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Just a couple ideas:

If you re-rip a CD to AAC and for whatever reason, ‘Replace Existing’ doesn’t come up.  Just import anyway.  After it is done, browse to the album in iTunes.  Hit apple-J and enable the kind field.  Sort by Kind by clicking on the ‘Kind’ header and just delete the MPEG files.  You’ll have just AAC left.

Also use Smart Playlists to keep track of your ripping progress.  I have a Smart Playlist that keeps track of mp3’s not converted yet by using kind is ‘MPEG’ and date modified is before April.  I have a second Smart Playlist that keeps track of re-ripped AAC by using kind is ‘AAC’.  With live updating you can watch your progress by checking these playlists. 

Don’t rip your mp3’s to AAC.  Go back to the orginal CD.  If the mp3’s are downloaded, just deal with the fact that they are mp3’s.  I would only suggest re-ripping mp3’s if the original bit rate was at 256kbps or higher.  The only use for that would be to save a few megs of file size.  At that rate, you won’t lose that much quality if you go to AAC.  Please DO NOT re encode a 128 mp3 and expect any decent sound quality.

If you import any file supported by iTunes into iTunes it will remain at whatever format it was orginally.  iTunes will only convert format if you tell it to.

To manage WAV files:  I’ve never used it, but you may want to check out iView Media Manager  It may be what you are looking for.  I’m not sure.

Posted by Michael Hengeli on May 25, 2003 at 7:29 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

they took it down again.  What is wrong?!  Touchy subject I guess.

Posted by MLWings on May 25, 2003 at 6:46 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Well my 30gig monster came this weekend and I have spent the last day and night prepping my music. I decided it was time for a spring clean of my collection and a re-tagging of songs hence it taking so long but have to say how dam quick the firwire is. To think I put up with USB on my PJB 100 :) One prob I did have is that unless you tell XP that you want to remove the IPOD you can lock the device in such a state it needs a reset and re-format.

I am now an official convert to Apple IPOD’s and have become an ISPOD ( Someone that won’t stop going on about their IPOD).

Posted by Robert Perkins in UK on May 25, 2003 at 4:52 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Albert, you are full of crap. I know of several people that never had a problem exchanging something at the Apple Store. Apple can only do so much to get the iPod to work right on the PC, and the PC isn’t exactly the most stable platform to do the things that Apple is doing. My XP is always doing thigns it ought not be doing, so I know that there is only so much they can do. Stop yoru whining.

Posted by Charles on May 25, 2003 at 4:40 PM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

I was given a 10GB windows Pod as an xmas pressie by my boyfriend -so im not going to start complaining about it -I prefer the look of the “old” ones. But if mine should have an accident during its extended warranty - well who knows..?
The big puter runs XP, and we’d already encoded everything to 192 mp3’s ( the player in my car and on my linux laptop doesnt like WMA - using a non propriety format saves all these cross platform hassles and whinging doesnt it? )
I like my simple firewire cable - easy to pack, easy to replace. ( said boyfriend has already lost my original cable…Oh well)
And the old iPod still isnt “old hat” everyone who’s ever had a go of mine has been struck with envy pangs.
With a nice set of fontopia earphones ( thats the only downside those apple ones dont fit my ears!!!!) I’m deleriously happy anywhere i go   :)

Posted by Sam in UK on May 25, 2003 at 9:16 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Actually, the AMEX return program is 90 days. But it’s only good for up to $300.

Posted by Joey J in Chesterfield MO USA on May 25, 2003 at 8:45 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Let’s look past format wars into the future. Formats like AAC will come and go. How often do you feel like re-ripping your CDs?

Enough is enough. Rip to WAV and store permanent copies of your UNCOMPRESSED music. Hard drive space is cheap. Less than $1 a GB. Soon we will have 1TB drives.

Once you have all your music ripped to WAV, you can toss the aluminum for good and use those shelves for bamboo plants.

Every time a LATEST GREATEST new format comes along, you can just batch convert and put the archive hard drives away until next time (use external FireWire drives for convenience).

2 questions:

1) What is the best software to rip to WAV… I have used MusicMatch on the PC and it does CDDB lookup and names the file based on artist/album/song and even uses directories based on all that, which is nice. WAV files can’t store ID tags. Is there a better method?

2) What is the best software that converts WAV files to AAC (or the latest format)? I want to somehow preserve custom tag info for each track (complete with album graphics). I suppose I could store that in files in the directories with the songs, but it could get kind of messy.

Any suggestions?

Posted by Joey J in Chesterfield MO USA on May 25, 2003 at 7:32 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Oh, and my biggest grief was that I got transfer errors and the Pod crashed 3 times the first 30 minutes I had it. Traced it to my Audigy card: seems the firewire on it was buggy. Plugging it into the FW on my mainboard solved everything.

Posted by tyldis in Norway on May 25, 2003 at 2:00 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Never even installed MM, just went straight to Ephpod. I think it’s great.

Posted by tyldis in Norway on May 25, 2003 at 1:59 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Hi Albert!
If you bought your IPOD with an American express that offers a 60 day satisfaction guarantee on everything you buy with the card, you can just dispute the charge and they will take care of the problems. In fact you can go to the store, tell them of the problems and warn them of the dispute if they dont take the bad product back. Otherwise, go ahead and deal with them through your credit card

Posted by Vlad on May 24, 2003 at 10:08 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

ben. . . .i respect you quite alot now ;-)

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 4:48 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

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Posted by Ben on May 24, 2003 at 3:23 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

First off let me get one thing straight:
I would never switch! : )

I was just saying that to make Apple think about the alternatives. I know they have but I wanted them to hear it from an individual user. I love my iPod too! (eventhough I just had to have it replaced due to total disc failure)

I think a lot of times Apple takes for granted that they have us all “sucked in” so to speak. I mean you speak so highly of them, as do I BUT it is important as consumers we remind them that they have competition and we are not afraid to try other options. (even if we won’t) It means a lot more to them coming directly from us than it does from an overall base of opinion!

Apple are you listening? Yes they are, BUT we really have to push the issues if we really want them to implement our ideas…

The iPod is good with or without a Play Que, with or without “Playlists On The Go” but that doesn’t mean it can’t get better. And lets face it, the competition has it and we don’t! Even if the others are clunky and aesthetically displeasing,  in some cases they do have more useful options and that is what irritates me the most!

Anyways, bottom line, I wouldn’t switch! I won’t switch and I just hope that Apple listens to us!


Posted by Ben on May 24, 2003 at 2:47 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

“And when we do upgrade, we will remember Apple’s lack of “play Que” support and think ” Why shouldn’t I just “switch” to a 60gb Nomad JB”

ok, that was a quote from ben.  i understand what your saying. . . but when you “upgrade”  meaning you’ll have money for something new. . .why not GET a new ipod.. .since it does have on-the-go?  if your gonna upgrade, might as well get the best thing out there. . . . which is the ipod, hands down

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 10:17 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

but if you want to sacrifice the beauty of the ipod for a nomad just to have a play que, rather then waiting a few months, which it hasn’t even been one month yet, then go ahead.  the ipod is smaller, its prettier, the new ipod has kick ass featuers. . .an alarm clock, games, contacts, notes. . . . .whats better then that?? i splurged and got a new one and. . was more then worth it

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 10:10 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

there’s a whole lot of reasons why you shouldn’t switch to a bloody nomad.  first off. . .their bulky, 2nd off, their ugly, 3rd off do they have all the features that the ipod has? do they work right? i’ve never had ANY kind of problems with my ipod, none.  but i’ve heard a bunches of stuff about nomads.  before you spend your money on something else, think about it. . .apple or creative. . . .i’m with apple.  i sold my 20 gb ipod for $300 then bought the new 30gb.  never looking back.  i fall back in love with my ipod every day.  its amazing.  if you realy want a new one, you could get one, your just lazy

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 10:07 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod



This is the feedback I left!

MAKE A PLAY QUE FOR THE OLD iPODS!!!! Many of us spent SO much $ on our older models and cannot afford to upgrade right this second to get the “Playlist on the go” fetaure. The owners of the classic iPods are the ones that have kept the iPod in front of the competition and I suggest if Apple wants to keep it this way they should support their loyal customers with a Play Que software upgrade!

There aee thousands like me who wish this a reality! Please make it one~



And when we do upgrade, we will remember Apple’s lack of “play Que” support and think ” Why shouldn’t I just “switch” to a 60gb Nomad JB. They have play ques and lost of other stuff” Many are thinking this way and many will be in a position to upgrade in the next year. Wouldn’t it be better to give us what we want now so we don’t think about “switching” later”?

Posted by Ben in Chicago on May 24, 2003 at 9:22 AM (CDT)

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