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Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Actually, the AMEX return program is 90 days. But it’s only good for up to $300.

Posted by Joey J in Chesterfield MO USA on May 25, 2003 at 8:45 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Let’s look past format wars into the future. Formats like AAC will come and go. How often do you feel like re-ripping your CDs?

Enough is enough. Rip to WAV and store permanent copies of your UNCOMPRESSED music. Hard drive space is cheap. Less than $1 a GB. Soon we will have 1TB drives.

Once you have all your music ripped to WAV, you can toss the aluminum for good and use those shelves for bamboo plants.

Every time a LATEST GREATEST new format comes along, you can just batch convert and put the archive hard drives away until next time (use external FireWire drives for convenience).

2 questions:

1) What is the best software to rip to WAV… I have used MusicMatch on the PC and it does CDDB lookup and names the file based on artist/album/song and even uses directories based on all that, which is nice. WAV files can’t store ID tags. Is there a better method?

2) What is the best software that converts WAV files to AAC (or the latest format)? I want to somehow preserve custom tag info for each track (complete with album graphics). I suppose I could store that in files in the directories with the songs, but it could get kind of messy.

Any suggestions?

Posted by Joey J in Chesterfield MO USA on May 25, 2003 at 7:32 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Oh, and my biggest grief was that I got transfer errors and the Pod crashed 3 times the first 30 minutes I had it. Traced it to my Audigy card: seems the firewire on it was buggy. Plugging it into the FW on my mainboard solved everything.

Posted by tyldis in Norway on May 25, 2003 at 2:00 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Never even installed MM, just went straight to Ephpod. I think it’s great.

Posted by tyldis in Norway on May 25, 2003 at 1:59 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Hi Albert!
If you bought your IPOD with an American express that offers a 60 day satisfaction guarantee on everything you buy with the card, you can just dispute the charge and they will take care of the problems. In fact you can go to the store, tell them of the problems and warn them of the dispute if they dont take the bad product back. Otherwise, go ahead and deal with them through your credit card

Posted by Vlad on May 24, 2003 at 10:08 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

ben. . . .i respect you quite alot now ;-)

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 4:48 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

***READ THIS******
This discussion is now going on at the Apple site…

I posted it once but it was taken off, I posted it again and they left it. Most of the replies so far have been really negative towards my opinion..
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Posted by Ben on May 24, 2003 at 3:23 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

First off let me get one thing straight:
I would never switch! : )

I was just saying that to make Apple think about the alternatives. I know they have but I wanted them to hear it from an individual user. I love my iPod too! (eventhough I just had to have it replaced due to total disc failure)

I think a lot of times Apple takes for granted that they have us all “sucked in” so to speak. I mean you speak so highly of them, as do I BUT it is important as consumers we remind them that they have competition and we are not afraid to try other options. (even if we won’t) It means a lot more to them coming directly from us than it does from an overall base of opinion!

Apple are you listening? Yes they are, BUT we really have to push the issues if we really want them to implement our ideas…

The iPod is good with or without a Play Que, with or without “Playlists On The Go” but that doesn’t mean it can’t get better. And lets face it, the competition has it and we don’t! Even if the others are clunky and aesthetically displeasing,  in some cases they do have more useful options and that is what irritates me the most!

Anyways, bottom line, I wouldn’t switch! I won’t switch and I just hope that Apple listens to us!


Posted by Ben on May 24, 2003 at 2:47 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

“And when we do upgrade, we will remember Apple’s lack of “play Que” support and think ” Why shouldn’t I just “switch” to a 60gb Nomad JB”

ok, that was a quote from ben.  i understand what your saying. . . but when you “upgrade”  meaning you’ll have money for something new. . .why not GET a new ipod.. .since it does have on-the-go?  if your gonna upgrade, might as well get the best thing out there. . . . which is the ipod, hands down

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 10:17 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

but if you want to sacrifice the beauty of the ipod for a nomad just to have a play que, rather then waiting a few months, which it hasn’t even been one month yet, then go ahead.  the ipod is smaller, its prettier, the new ipod has kick ass featuers. . .an alarm clock, games, contacts, notes. . . . .whats better then that?? i splurged and got a new one and. . was more then worth it

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 10:10 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

there’s a whole lot of reasons why you shouldn’t switch to a bloody nomad.  first off. . .their bulky, 2nd off, their ugly, 3rd off do they have all the features that the ipod has? do they work right? i’ve never had ANY kind of problems with my ipod, none.  but i’ve heard a bunches of stuff about nomads.  before you spend your money on something else, think about it. . .apple or creative. . . .i’m with apple.  i sold my 20 gb ipod for $300 then bought the new 30gb.  never looking back.  i fall back in love with my ipod every day.  its amazing.  if you realy want a new one, you could get one, your just lazy

Posted by jzero in AZ on May 24, 2003 at 10:07 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod



This is the feedback I left!

MAKE A PLAY QUE FOR THE OLD iPODS!!!! Many of us spent SO much $ on our older models and cannot afford to upgrade right this second to get the “Playlist on the go” fetaure. The owners of the classic iPods are the ones that have kept the iPod in front of the competition and I suggest if Apple wants to keep it this way they should support their loyal customers with a Play Que software upgrade!

There aee thousands like me who wish this a reality! Please make it one~



And when we do upgrade, we will remember Apple’s lack of “play Que” support and think ” Why shouldn’t I just “switch” to a 60gb Nomad JB. They have play ques and lost of other stuff” Many are thinking this way and many will be in a position to upgrade in the next year. Wouldn’t it be better to give us what we want now so we don’t think about “switching” later”?

Posted by Ben in Chicago on May 24, 2003 at 9:22 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

I am planning on getting an iPod what should i get 15Gb or 30Gb, new model or old model, is MAC better than PC and or PC better than MAC. I do like MM but some say the program does not reconignize the iPod why not and if it does how do you fix that. Email me and I would be quite obliged.

Posted by Sam in Amarillo on May 24, 2003 at 7:14 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Chris, you shouldn’t be too upset about it. I have a old 5gig and a new 15gig and trust me, the 5gig was so much easier to use with just a normal firewire cable. I had 2 firewire cables, one permantly connected to the comp, and another one for the charger. This new dock->firewire cable gets all tangled with stereo wires when I have to pull it out from the comp for charging, plus I keep losing the small clip things u put in the ipod to cover up the dock port.

Posted by Skaven on May 23, 2003 at 8:58 PM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

people, stop it!!!! Can only get mine in two week (money issues for some of us) and you all having the bloody IPOD is driving me CRAZY!!!! I am so jealous.TELL ME MORE!!!!!!!!

Posted by Katrin Malin in amsterdam on May 23, 2003 at 9:28 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Because deleting the old tracks means losing the metadata, like ratings, play counts, comments, and it means losing songs from playlists.

Posted by eustacescrubb in Yellow Springs. OH on May 22, 2003 at 7:52 PM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Rather than relying on perfect dupes of CDDB track info in order to use “Replace Existing,” why not manually delete the old tracks by using shift-arrow to highlight the tracks and delete them?

Not as elegant, but a lot faster—especially if you sort by Date Added and/or Format and then go through all the older tracks and kill ‘em off…..

Posted by libratem on May 22, 2003 at 6:46 PM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

I can’t wait for iTunes for Windows. Then I can get my wonderful iTunes interface at work (with windoze. :(((  )

Posted by Chris on May 22, 2003 at 5:34 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

The New IPod On-The-Go, is perfect..  seems to work just fine for me, only got it yesterday, but i’ve had 15 songs playeded from on the go just fine.

Posted by DouG0 in wherever on May 22, 2003 at 4:44 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Is the new MMJB can rip the CD to AAC ?

Posted by godzilla in UK on May 22, 2003 at 2:21 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Before I even thought about getting an iPod, I ripped all my cd’s to MP3 (basically for winamp). But for the WMA question, you can get MP3 PowerEncoder, thats a Windows Media Player add-on.

Posted by Fogy in japan on May 22, 2003 at 2:09 AM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Lots of comments here that I will try to respond to. 

Overall, I think we can agree that there are feature on other mp3 devices that we would like to see on the iPod. 

I hope we can also agree that there are a number of bugs and complaints regarding basic operation and reliability of the new docking ipods.  Apple has not addressed these complaints.  They have not addressed historical complaints in a timely manner (old battery issue).

If I had a Mac, and my iPod performed advertised features without any problems, I would be happy.  Now, I have a PC, and since Apple has chosen to sell iPods for PC users, I should expect the high quality and service that Apple is known for.  I should not have to buy a Mac to fulfill the promise of a simple mp3 player.

Yes, I have an docking iPod, and yes, I’m using a PC with it. I have had problems.  The Apple store in Palo Alto has not been helpful, they would not give me an exchange, and I’m not willing to give them a 15% restocking fee for the privilege of renting a buggy product.  According to the Mac Genius, “all new products are ‘quirky’.”

Those frustrations aside (and getting back to the original topic), the iPod is constructed of many standard parts, and eventually, SOMEONE (other than Apple) will get it right.  On the PC front, which is the broader market, Apple is arguably behind Creative in terms of support (fixes, firmware upgrades, openness and responsiveness) and feature set.  Of course, in a portable device, form is just as important, if not more important, than function.  In this respect, Apple is miles ahead.

The point is, they CAN build a big lead here, but they must do so by attracting and pleasing PC users as well as Mac users.

Posted by Albert in asdfasdf on May 21, 2003 at 1:32 PM (CDT)

iPods for Windows: It's a good thing?

It’s simple: Apple is a big commercial firm AND got a very good product. They want to sell it to as many as they are capable of, and that is both Mac and PC users.

Posted by Espen on May 21, 2003 at 9:40 AM (CDT)

How to fill a 5Gb iPod

I have converted all of my high bitrate MP3’s to 128 kbps AAC’s, but I’ve still got 25 GB or so of music, and a 5 GB iPod.

Posted by Laird Popkin in NYC on May 21, 2003 at 8:36 AM (CDT)

Switching from MP3 to AAC Without Losing Your Mind

Dave Wrote:
if I convert MP3s to AAC the sound quality will degrade. Is this true?

Any time you compress something in a non-lossless format sound quality will degrade. I is like taking a piece of red paper and cutting it to fit a frame then realising you want to use a different frame. if you try to cut the piece of paper again it is still a red piece of paper just not as much.

Dave Wrote:
what if the original was a downloaded file. Is converting a viable option or will I lose too much sound quality.

“Too much” is relative if you don’t like it don’t convert if you think it is worth the time loss in quality and effort to you do it, but why convert when the ipod can play both one right after the other?

Dave Wrote:
Also, I have now set up itunes to import as AAC. Therefore if I download a file, I assume its automatically being converted to AAC when I import into itunes. Does this degrade the sound?

It will not automatically convert from one compressed format to another. you have set it to import from CD’s as AAC. If it were to convert it would degrade the sound to your ears.

Posted by Jim on May 21, 2003 at 1:52 AM (CDT)

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