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Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

Hey Albert,
There are incompatible card problems for every pc device and very very few third party devices are “well” integrated with the pc because there are too many hands in the cookie jar!

I work with both pc’s and macs all the live long day, and Macs rule! It took me 10 minutes the first time I ever used a Mac to see how infinitely better they are and to switch. I only know one person who’s ever used a mac that likes windows better and I think he has mental probs.

P.S. The iPod does have an insurmountable lead, because despite the pitful way that pc’s work with iPods (and most other third party devices), Windows users are buying them up like HOT CAKES! Which is great for me since I own stock in Apple!!!!!! YEEEEEE HAWWW!!!!!!

I own the very very first model iPod and have used it hard every day for about a year and a half now and it ROCKS HARD! Every single day! I’ve had to reset it 5 times in all the time I’ve owned it. Not too shabby I think.

Like the new version, mine had some bugs when it was brand new, however Apple listens to its end users and has released very well targeted software updates that have eliminated all the probs. This will likely happen with the new one too.

This is coming from a guy who thinks the Zen is kinda cool. But c’mon man! It’s not even close! How can you say that an mp3 player that’s Ugly and Big could have better functionality than a small elegant one that’s easy as hell to operate?

P.P.S. How many times did your windows XP machine tell you that new security updates for this or that had been downloaded to your PC and were ready to be installed?

Posted by sillycar on May 13, 2003 at 7:03 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

The ipod is undoubtedly the leader, and it’s definitely the best designed, but I think your comments are a bit biased.  Though the Zen market share is much lower, you have to give them credit for packing in a number of features the ipod does not have for a lower cost.  True, it’s ugly and big, but arguably functionality has far surpassed the ipod. 

The ipod itself has a ways to go.  There are numerous reports of bugs in this new release (resets, clicks, etc.), and it’s just not well-integrated with the pc (no charging while syncing, incompatible firewire cards, MMJB).  I think it’s too early too call it an insurmountable lead.

Posted by Albert in CA on May 13, 2003 at 6:43 PM (CDT)

Will any MP3 player ever catch Apple's iPod?

im still leaning towards the iPod but I have come across a few articles and potential iPod killers… some are very tempting.

MP3 Insider: iPod killers coming soon (2-12-03)

Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen (60GB, USB 2.0)

Philips HDD100

Posted by 2000NB18T on May 13, 2003 at 5:16 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

Actually to implement a play queue would not have to have a negative impact on the interface at all. You would simply add an option to turn play queue on or off (in the settings or in the main menu). If it’s on, then selecting a new song queues that song. If it’s off, then selecting a new song switches to that song. The contents of a queue would also be accessible via a playlist.

Posted by cpatch in San Diego, CA on May 13, 2003 at 5:03 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

I don’t really see the play queue as a nice thing.  When companies try to implement LOTS of features like that, they go nuts and make the whole thing woefully complicated.  Take windows.  Microsoft tries to make it professional, but they just confuse you with counter-intuitive controls and design.  I don’t want to see any more buttons on the iPod, so I’d rather that Apple keep it simple.

So I’m ok with an on the go playlist creator, only so long as it is simple and easy to do.

Posted by I'm Not giving my name to this website... in I'm Not giving my location to this website... on May 13, 2003 at 4:58 PM (CDT)

How to fill a 5Gb iPod

Uh, it’s called AAC.  Get the new update for it, and compress your stuff overnight to 64 or 56 kb/second.  It sounds just as good as 128 MP3, and you can fit everything on it.

Posted by I'm Not giving my name to this website... in I'm Not giving my location to this website... on May 13, 2003 at 4:46 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

As the owner of a $500.00 20 gb ipod i would also like the all the 2.0 features of the new model. Its only fair!!
Also how about having the qued up song play instantly (no delay time). A feature required for mixing dj’s. As soon as you hit play the song starts in less than 3 ms. If a song is qued up, pressing the forward button will play the song untill it is released, then it goes back to the exact point in the song that was entered as the que point. Just like the professional DJ cd players!

Posted by Ivan Chaparro in Chicago on May 12, 2003 at 11:27 PM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

Can anyone please describe how the ‘on-the-go’ playlist feature on the new ipods works?

Is it possible to continuously add music to the current playlist while listening to that same playlist in the mean time?

Is it easy to re-order the songs within that playlist?

Posted by phester in TX on May 12, 2003 at 2:40 PM (CDT)

Experiment: iPod Video Capture?

Does anybody know if I can I sync the iPod with iPhoto, or can show QT videos (.MPG) on the iPod?

Posted by CQ in Paris on May 12, 2003 at 8:14 AM (CDT)

New iPod Reactions: Accessory Makers and an Author

It seems most of the manufacturers are only interested in making cases. Is there anyone interested in making use of the new connector for other possibilities, such as a one-button-transfer card reader for downloading photos.

Posted by Mammoth in Hong Kong on May 12, 2003 at 2:22 AM (CDT)

How to fill a 5Gb iPod

I have a 5 GB iPod as well, and I fill it using a set of smart playlists:
- Audible Files: Kind is “Audible file”. I’m into books on tape, so I make sure they’re all on the iPod. I uncheck the ones that I’ve listened to, so they’re displayed in the iTunes playlist for reference, but not copied to the iPod.
- Favorites: Limit to 1 GB selected by highest rating.
- Recently Added: Limit to 1 GB selected by most recently added.
- Purchased Music: as Apple defined it. if I paid for it, I want to listen to it. (At least for now)
- Random Music: Limit to 2 GB selected by random. I like having this so that I’ve got “new” music to listen to every time i synch my iPod.

A few feature requests (in case an iPod engineer reads this):
- Add a ‘shuffle’ command to cause random smart playlists to re-randomize.
- Have ‘convert selection to AAC’ ask whether to remove the old tracks. I’ve been converting my 192k bps MP3’s to 128k bps AAC’s, and it’s amazingly tedious double checking to make sure that I delete the right MP3’s after conversion is done.
- I’m also finding that deleting tracks from iTunes (e.g. the MP3 versions of tracks I just converted to AAC’s) doesn’t always delete the MP3’s. So I have untold MB of disk space wasted on invisible music times. I’d like to be able to force a scan of the iTunes folders to make sure that all songs physically present are in iTunes, and vice versa.

Posted by Laird Popkin in New York City on May 11, 2003 at 5:58 PM (CDT)

Audio Formats Explained And Rated

Minidisc uses Sony’s ATRAC compression.

Posted by Rus on May 11, 2003 at 9:28 AM (CDT)

Audio Formats Explained And Rated

Minidisc players use AAC format, I believe?

Posted by Phil on May 11, 2003 at 8:23 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience


Posted by Leee in planetlee on May 11, 2003 at 12:38 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

BTW, everyone needs to go to the above link and post a request for this to elevate the issue to apple…

Posted by Sean Smith in Los Angeles on May 10, 2003 at 10:19 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

“please Apple, please”

Posted by Sean Smith in Los Angeles on May 10, 2003 at 10:02 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Thanks for the comments… and I still am thankful for this little gem, I just feel a bit slighted.  At least with computer technology, faster chips are announced and it is at least a few months before the price drop occurs.  This was over the course of a week… your $500 buys 20 gigs today and 30 gigs with improvements (and some draw backs) tomorrow… if you we lucky enough to have your pay check cashed this week you win, if it was last week, too bad.

On balance, I am very satisfied.

Posted by Mark Matson in CT on May 9, 2003 at 8:49 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

I agree with the WMA guy.

If he does have ten gigs of WMAs then a 20Gb iPod won’t be big enough once they’re converted to MP3s. Or, at least, not if he wants to put any more music on it afterwards.

And does anyone know a program that converts WMA to MP3 anyway?

Anybody who bought a Windows XP machine in the last year tends to have their music in WMA because that’s what Microsoft Media Player rips to, and since they’re the smallest files there doesn’t seem much point changing.

Posted by Tim in Bristol, UK on May 9, 2003 at 7:14 AM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

Hi Mark,

I bought my 10G ipod on 18 April, just 10 days before Apple announced the launch of the new ipod.

Like you I was initially very upset over the matter.  But just think about it, beside being slightly thicker and heavier, the old model works as well as the new one (The docking station although useful is not really essential). 

In fact, I prefer the old design (the control layout) compared to the new one which look more ordinary and less cool.

The bottomline is the ipod (both old and new models) is simply a great piece human creation.  Not everyone is as fortunate as some of us to be able to afford one.  So just be thankful you are holding it in your hand.

Enjoy the music.

Posted by BC in Singapore on May 8, 2003 at 8:05 PM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

How can you feel ripped off just because Apple came out with a new model?  Should they have phoned you and told you “Psst, don’t buy yet, new models will be here in a couple of weeks?”  Good grief.  That’s technology.  Should they never come out with new models?  Should they tell everyone in advance when to expect them?  I guess they could do it like auto manufacturers, where you have a 2002 iPod, a 2003 iPod, etc.  But that ain’t gonna happen.

I bought a 20G iPod in January, then took it back because I read all the rumors about new models.  Had I known I’d have to wait 4 months for the new ones, I would have kept the 20G.  In some ways I liked my 20G more than my new 30G.  Them’s the breaks.  Just enjoy your new iPod.  It’s just as great now as when you bought it.

Posted by Chris on May 8, 2003 at 2:49 PM (CDT)

My iPod Buying Experience

I am upset that I bought a 20GB iPod at the end of March and that they came out with a newer version with larger capacity for the same price.  I bought mine from B&H Photo (got it the day after I ordered it) so I have no recourse but to look at my iPod as a rip-off.

Posted by Mark Matson in CT on May 8, 2003 at 2:40 PM (CDT)

New iPod Reactions: Accessory Makers and an Author

Since it didn’t post the homepage link, I’ll post it now:

Posted by Mark Chally on May 8, 2003 at 11:36 AM (CDT)

New iPod Reactions: Accessory Makers and an Author

As expected, the new iPods are completely compatible with PodPods—as are all iPods ever manufactured thus far.

Posted by Mark Chally on May 8, 2003 at 11:20 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

Apple and Microsoft should be like every other company out there.  If they come out with an updated product make it just a little bit better than the old one so that the consumer has the urge to upgrade.  BUT they should also support the old products as well.  Supporting the old product should be in full and it shouldn’t make it better or equal to the new product because if it does….WHY WOULD THEIR BE A NEW PRODUCT!

Posted by MLWings on May 8, 2003 at 10:13 AM (CDT)

Wishing for a play queue for iPod

having been a pc user my whole life. i’m beginning to see a very familiar trend here from apple.  and i think everyone here knows where i’m going with this. but i’ve always been the pc guy that is in love with the apple machines and platform but because of my investments in pc software and the like it doesn’t make sense to move to a mac and incur all that cost again. so i stay on the pc.  but back in september i broke down and bought the 10GB iPod.  and i flat out LOVE it.  but if apple is going to start treating their loyal addicts like microsoft treats us.  i’d just assume keep getting in the ass from someone i’m already used to gettting it from, microsoft. i’m not disappointed or pissed at them for they way they run their business, i’m used to it.  i thougt apple was different, and thought different.  guess not.  if they aren’t going to do such basic things as update the firmware for the *ahem* old *ahem* ipods. then i sure as hell aren’t going to buy a new one no matter how hot the fire gets in my wallet to really want the 30GB (mmmmm) ipod. —- anyway that’s my two cents.

Posted by Jason in Columbus, Ohio on May 8, 2003 at 8:34 AM (CDT)

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