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Backstage: iLounge's new grading system

I agree that the letter grade scale is very intuitive, and therefore is a great system for any new-comers to the ‘lounge.

I prefer the new precise ratings to the previous emoticons.  There are enough rating levels, but then again, not too many either.

To be blunt, thank you for the change.  Much like apple would do, you gave us an improvement that we didn’t realize we needed until it was offered.

Jason smile

Posted by StinkieDMB in Pittsburgh, PA on August 15, 2004 at 6:21 PM (PDT)

Backstage: iLounge's new grading system

Well—

When you are using a numerical value (e.g. 0 through 10, 100, whatever), the only way that the system can actually mean something is if the ratings are normally distributed… You have to have the same number of “F” grade products as “A” grade products… otherwise, what defines what an A or F grade product really is?  Almost everything has room for improvement (even *gasp* the iPod), and almost nothing is as bad as it could be.

Just my opinion,

Posted by James on August 15, 2004 at 10:43 AM (PDT)

Backstage: Yes, the iPod is THAT important to Apple

Yes, but it would be unnecessary for most music collections. Might as well save the money and give it away. Next thing you know, you’ll be owning 40 or 60 of them, and designing one large case for them.

Posted by Questioner on August 13, 2004 at 4:49 PM (PDT)

Backstage: iLounge's new grading system

I mostly ignore ratings. The good and bad points of the product have much more value.

Posted by SouthPaw in PV, NY on August 13, 2004 at 10:07 AM (PDT)

Backstage: iLounge's new grading system

I think letter grading is a great idea. The four icon system isn’t quite as clear. 
I’d love to see a feature and grade comparison chart for each of the review categories, which I guess is what you’re referring to as the “report card”. 
Keep up the good work. You’re making a good thing even better.

Posted by akseez in Orem, UT on August 13, 2004 at 9:41 AM (PDT)

Backstage: Griffin's secret iPod products

Maybe Griffin could actually finish the RadioShark before they get too carried away with new stuff.

Posted by Ben on August 13, 2004 at 5:54 AM (PDT)

Backstage: Griffin's secret iPod products

Could it be time for the Bluetooth adapter? Or perhaps AirPort Express streaming?

Posted by jonyem in Port Angeles, Washington on August 12, 2004 at 7:50 PM (PDT)

Backstage: The U.S. arrival of Power Support

Not the evo, the exo.

Posted by coolpepper43 on August 12, 2004 at 3:28 PM (PDT)

Backstage: The U.S. arrival of Power Support

I wonder if the mobile stand will work with the iSkin Evo.  If it does, I’m all over it.

Hopefully you can compare Power Support’s Silicone Jacket to iSkin’s Evo in terms of size when you review the PS products.

Posted by Third on August 12, 2004 at 3:55 AM (PDT)

Backstage: Leander on iSkin v. Lajo

As a new lounge member, I have come in, in the middle.  Is there any way to just list who makes what (iskin, ####, xskin,?)?  Not for any brands benifit, but for the benifit of newer Ipod owners, like myself, and all ipod owners , as consumers.  The names of the actual products from these companies, are so close and/or overlapped that we, the consumers are the real losers. Any help would be appreciated, either here in the forum, or directed to me thru the lounge to my e-mail.

Posted by hogdoc in Boston on August 11, 2004 at 2:02 PM (PDT)

Backstage: The U.S. arrival of Power Support

thanks for the link, cool accesories over there.

Posted by Brayeta on August 10, 2004 at 7:07 PM (PDT)

Backstage: A more colorful iPod future

I hear you about Nintendo.  The smartest thing they ever did with the gameboy is to keep the black and white screen until they could maintain battery life and backwards compatibility.

What Nintendo did with the Gameboy was absolute genious.  It outlasted hundreds of competitors many of which were technically superior (Game Gear to name one) and is still kicking ###.

Posted by asohangh on August 10, 2004 at 5:12 PM (PDT)

Backstage: A more colorful iPod future

i still wait….. and looks like forever… for the new update version software for 3Gns….. at least the manage of the On The Go lists….. but….. i still waiting.  Sad.

Posted by Jalil on August 10, 2004 at 4:44 PM (PDT)

Backstage: On RealNetworks and the iPod

I dont recall any ‘one-finger salute’ when Glaser approached Jobs; as I recall, Jobs simply did not reply to Glaser’s email overture at all, Glaser subsequently whining about this publicly. Did I miss something?

Posted by Vaughn Cordero on August 10, 2004 at 7:55 AM (PDT)

Backstage: Early iPod 4G review comments

I agree on the need for a balance adjuster. I was actually noticing my worse right ear hearing when I saw Andy’s post. Though it’s not discrimination! You are not entitled to a volume balance feature. It would be very nice to have though. Let’s not go nuts.

Posted by umlaut in OC, California on August 9, 2004 at 10:40 PM (PDT)

Backstage: Yes, the iPod is THAT important to Apple

must be nice to have enough $$ to have an ipod everyday of the week.

Posted by Jeff on August 9, 2004 at 10:19 PM (PDT)

Backstage: Keeping busy during site outages

And now it is back. For good. grin

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on August 9, 2004 at 4:19 PM (PDT)

Backstage: Keeping busy during site outages

Heads up: http://backstage.ipodlounge.com was cool and I had a bookmark… And now it is gone.  :(

Posted by Andrew on August 9, 2004 at 2:08 PM (PDT)

Backstage: Early iPod 4G review comments

“ok imagine u were in my shoes…u never bought an ipod but ur interested…ur options r
1)get an ipod min(original plan)
-or-
2)get a new 20gb 4g ipod for 50$ more”

I was in your same position last weekend. Wait a month (or more!) for the mini, or pay a bit more and get a 4G with 5x storage and 50% longer battery life for just $50 more and get it in two days. I also do not have a large music collection.

I went with the 4G 20 gig model. And the mini’s also scratch quite easily, based on what I have seen so far. I like the new 4G so much that I got one for my wife, and convinced my dad to get one as well - he will get his on Monday, 8/9/04. We are all first time iPod users.

Hope this helps you make your decision.

Posted by Gandhi on August 6, 2004 at 11:39 AM (PDT)

Backstage: A more colorful iPod future

Im waiting for the 60GB 4th Gen iPod to come out. Only then will i upgrade from my 3rd Gen.

Posted by ipodphreak on August 6, 2004 at 11:36 AM (PDT)

Backstage: A more colorful iPod future

Remember the “color changing case” patent that Apple picked up about a year ago?  Someone can probably link to it.  That would be very cool, but probably too much battery power for an iPod.  Might be in the next iMac, however…

Posted by thenightfly42 on August 6, 2004 at 9:06 AM (PDT)

Backstage: iPod, iPod, iPod, iRiver

jrockway,  you need to get to know your iRiver a bit more. Use the Moodlogic software included on the CD or website. It scans the files, then separates into Artist, Album, etc. The menu is totally changed.

Kinda funny. I too can use the joystick, click on the artist, and just click the artist name and “Select All”, and gee gollly, what do you know!! IT PLAYS! I wouldn’t call us “dumbfucks”

This is my theory. If you don’t use iTunes a lot, get the iRiver. It’s the same price as an iPod, with the same features, and a lot more. (I’ll explain later). However, if you use iTunes or have a Mac, I would get an iPod right away. I love the iTunes, and I love the IPod. It’s just that I don’t use iTunes too incredibly often. if you are a big iTunes user, you want the IPod because of the ease of compatabilty, and if you don’t have the iPod, burning a CD then ripping is not good for quality.

Also, the iRiver has the easisest compatabilty of any player on the market. It works on freaken anything. Plug it in to Mac OS X, Windows, Any linux distro,a nd it detects it right away. no software or drivers necessary.

On-the-fly playlist is coming in the new firmware, coming this August.

And also, while not as totally stylish as the iPod, it still looks pretty sharp, and is just as thin (2 cm wider I think at the top) as the iPod. It features Digital In/Out for you audiphiles. You can record from any external source through the LIne/Digital In/Out. I already recorded some of my brother’s vinyls with it, and they sound pretty darn good (can record up to 320K sound). Again, 16 hour battery life (I did a test, and mine lasted 17 hours). It has SRS Surround mixing, which can simulate surround sound in music. It’s the same SRS Labs that they use for Monday Night football in 5.1. While nothing can be truly upconverted from stereo to 5.1, it’s pretty good at separating channels. Also, the H series of iRivers are very ...configurable. You can do a lot of modding to them, like changing grahpics and stuff. Of course, if you screw u, then it’s your own fault. But it’s pretty neat.

Okay, finally. I give the iPod and the iRiver probably both 9/10s. Neither of them are perfect, but they are damn close to it. I just think that if you don’t use iTunes extensively,  it’s worht it to spend the same price and get a product on par or perhaps better.

Not a big iTunes user = iRiver
ITunes user = ITunes

Posted by mscbuck on August 5, 2004 at 7:51 PM (PDT)

Backstage: iPod, iPod, iPod, iRiver

I’ve used both an iPod and an iRiver and while the iRiver’s interface is definitely more complex, it does *do* a lot more than the iPod. When you add in the EQs, the recording, the FM, and the pitch settings then you have a more complex device.

The iPod can afford to be simple because it does a lot less. But by the time you have added a bunch of add-ons to the iPod, you have a clunkier device with an interface that’s groaning at the seams to support all the new features.

Posted by iRiver Interface on August 5, 2004 at 5:21 AM (PDT)

Backstage: iPod, iPod, iPod, iRiver

iRiver people don’t seem to get the point… an clean,easy-to-use interface makes your everyday life much easier.

If I want to play an album, I go to to Music::Albums, scroll to the one I want to hear, press the center button, and listen.  That’s it.

If I want a particular song, I go to Music::Songs, scroll to the one I want to hear, press the center button and listen. 

If I want to make a playlist, I find the song I want (browsing by any combination of artist, album, song, playlist, etc.), hold the center button and repeat.  Then that playlist is ready to use, and it even gets uploaded to iTunes where I can name it or fine-tune it a bit more.  That is ####### simple.  And it’s enjoyable.  The interface and features don’t get in the way… the music does, and that’s how it should be.

In summary, you iRiver people need to get over yourselves.  The iRiver is a bloated piece of crap, just like the Windows you load songs onto it with.

Oh! But the iPod doesn’t play FLAC… try

for i in *.flac; do flac -decode “$i” -  | lame—abr 128 “$i.mp3”; done;

Then you have MP3s you can put on your iPod and forget about.  OSX + iPod win hands down over anything else.  Sorry, dumbfucks.

Posted by jrockway on August 5, 2004 at 3:28 AM (PDT)

Backstage: On RealNetworks and the iPod

I now have music from both itunes and real/harmony stores on my ipod.  So it appear you can use both sources on the same ipod at the same time.  Though keep in mind, I have auto-sync turned off.

Auto-sync always annoyed me anyway.

The only thing I couldn’t do was play real/harmony musik in itunes, or itunes music in real player.

Posted by redruM on August 4, 2004 at 2:59 PM (PDT)

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