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iPod Updater 2005-10-12 released

Apple has posted iPod Updater 2005-10-12 for download on its website. The update includes iPod Software 1.0 for Apple’s new video-enabled fifth-generation iPod, but does not bring any new features to current iPods. According to the brief release notes, iPod Updater 2005-10-12 “contains the same software versions as iPod Updater 2005-09-23 for all other iPod models.”

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1

Do any of you editorial guys on here agree that one of two issues that still remain with the iPod photo still need to be addressed and are being ignored?

Mainly the smart playlist live update feature that was broken in the June update.

I don’t think the 5G offers much to 4G colour owners and they’re using every slight improvement (they’re aren’t many for those of us that only want a music player) as a weak incentive to upgrade.

I really thought they might fix it and add screenlock (a resposible move by Apple) but they won’t now.

Poor show!

Posted by RDH on October 18, 2005 at 3:43 PM (PDT)

2

one of two issue - that should be one ‘or’ two issue :=)

Posted by RDH on October 18, 2005 at 3:45 PM (PDT)

3

They need to fix Smart Playlists on:

iPod with dock connector(3G), iPod mini (both gens), iPod photo/color and iPod with click wheel

Posted by Daveoc64 on October 18, 2005 at 4:09 PM (PDT)

4

when do we got a folder abilty on our ipods just like itunes

Posted by Liam on October 18, 2005 at 4:20 PM (PDT)

5

Apple please fix Smart Playlist on the all iPods.

Posted by horizontal.integration on October 18, 2005 at 4:47 PM (PDT)

6

The smart playlists aren’t broken on the 3rd gen, they still work on mine, and I have the latest firmware update for mine, the June update didn’t add anything to the 3rd gen iPod, so I don’t see why people say the 3rd gen’s smart playlists are broken…

Posted by matrixsjd on October 18, 2005 at 6:41 PM (PDT)

7

awww. i wanted a lyric capability for my colored ipod. =/

Posted by kevn on October 18, 2005 at 6:46 PM (PDT)

8

Those that don’t need podcast support—or are willing to give it up for dynamic Smart Playlists back—just downgrade back to 3.01 or whatever version prior to the update that screwed things up.

That’s what I did, worked like a charm. Search the forums.

Posted by Kevin on October 18, 2005 at 6:58 PM (PDT)

9

Cripes.
I was really hoping for the black UI.
Eh, with any luck the iPod Wiz will crack the new OS… (or somebody. Hell, I’ld pay to mod my UI…odd how Apple has’nt figured out that clue-x-4, yet)
I have to admit I find a few ommisions interesting. The file system, the lyrics feature…
Then again, I’ve had a 2G since the intro of the 3rd & 4th gens.
Now ya know how I felt for two years.
I’m just now discivering the “magic” of on-the-go playlists with my Nano.
Yeah…,sorry 3&4 Gs… but there is some right, nice, cake for you in the lobby.
Welcome to my world.

...Ya know,..back in the day, one never heard a purchaser of fine wine say, “Those rat bastiches! Oak casks for a port! They could’nt have warned us about the update, could they?!! Now the swill I’ve got is worth nada!”...or…“I tell you…this ‘Shiraz’ thing is a passing fancy. You wait. It’ll be gone like a pet rock”.

I don’t know you people (personally) and it’s a safe bet I never will. Some of you may be older than me. I have no doubt that many of you are fr more experienced that I in the field of computers.
But, my darlings, I’ve been in sales for 17 years now, and if there’s one thing I know,....Things ALWAYS upgrade. ‘N it’s usually faster than you can frackin blink.
Buy what you do, no because it’s “THE BEST” or “TOP OF THE LINE”, but because when you buy it, it has the features you like, and it makes you happy.
Something “better” will always be available about six months afterwards.
Suck it up, take it like an adult, and enjoy the luxury you have (that so very few DON’T) while it lasts.
In the timeless words of Stan(the man)Lee..
..Nuff said..

Posted by MirandaKali in D.C. on October 18, 2005 at 7:02 PM (PDT)

10

How long is it that the owners of 4th gen iPods can expect firmware support for…?

Not long!  The firmware team are small, and not very skilled, and with a new iPod every 3 months they will already be severely overworked!

I wonder if the sound problem with the 4th gen will ever get fixed?  I bet not.  New features = never!

Posted by Tone on October 18, 2005 at 7:10 PM (PDT)

11

I have a 3G….I will be yet another one to stress the whole “iPods are for music” fact.  My smart playlists are fine….and I actually am happy with the update, even while it is ridiculously small.  Yes, the OLD update, that changed the charging battery icon from bars to a solid flow.  Heh, got me happy.  As for the 4G sound problems - that sucks for you.  I may not have been a pioneer ipodder, but 3G is officially old school, and I am proud to help form the bandwagon - not jump on it.

Posted by Genius on October 18, 2005 at 8:19 PM (PDT)

12

So is releasing firmware that breaks existing features (Smart Playlist live update) a tactic to encourage users to buy one of the new iPods?

I keep waiting for them to fix this, and with each updater that doesn’t address the issue I become more resolute to never buy another Apple product

Posted by Chris on October 18, 2005 at 8:39 PM (PDT)

13

I heard that you can swap the 5G iPod and the nano firmware data and play videos and enable the TV output on the nano!

I’m joking! Don’t do that, you could render your nano unusable!

First, forget about enabling TV output on the nano, it’s more than likely impossible. The NTSC/PAL encoder is a separate chip on the full size iPods, and likely take too much space for the nano that I don’t see why Apple would have kept it while trying to design a miniaturized iPod Photo, and not even enable the chip. As for playing video, the 5G iPod firmware is probably not able to deal with the smaller nano screen. Maybe there is a H.264 decoding chip on the 5G iPod?

Anyhow, one can dream smile

Posted by iPong on October 18, 2005 at 9:26 PM (PDT)

14

Surely this should have contained a fix for podcasts not appearing in the nanos podcast menu when podcasts are set to manual update. Sort it apple!

Posted by Bob on October 19, 2005 at 1:51 AM (PDT)

15

I had my heart set on a nano, now the new ipods are out and the video functionality really interests me. Is there a definite answer that says the nano can’t handle video? I think video functionality would be cool on the nano. Not for full movies, but I could handle short video podcasts, tv episodes, news etc.

Posted by ozpod on October 19, 2005 at 2:27 AM (PDT)

16

Marandakali

3G and 4G capabilities did find their way to the original iPods in a february update this year: http://ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apple-releases-ipod-software-update-trivia-added/

This same updater brought some 4G capabilities to the 3G as well. It took some time but it did happen. Eventually, Apple will bring what ever functions it can to previous iPods.

There is no garuntee that new features in current 5G and Nano will come to previous iPods, but presidence is set, even if it took apple almost two years to do it.

Paitence. Apple may set it’s priorities at it’s current iPods, but it will not leave it’s loyal completely in the dark.

Posted by Stuart on October 19, 2005 at 9:50 AM (PDT)

17

I agree wholeheartedly with Chris above.  When Apple broke the Smart Playlist auto update a while back, I gave them the benefit of the doubt.  It took a couple of weeks, but Apple did officially acknowledge the problem.  I figured the next firmware update would take care of it.

But then 9/23 came, and no new firmware showed up.  It made me angry, but given Apple’s propensity to release a new model and an associated updater at the same time, I thought that perhaps the delay was caused by the impending release of something new.  Turns out, I guess, I was half right.

Now I’m angry.  There’s no excuse for Apple not to address the broken firmware of a large cross-section of models.  I’m not asking for any new features (although folders sure would be nice).

BUT COMMON APPLE, YOU’RE STARTING TO MAKE ME RETHINK MY ENDORSEMENT TO FRIENDS OF MY IPOD!  If you think I’m going to shell out more money for a new model *EVER*, you’re going to have to make me happy I bought one to begin with.

Posted by Zman on October 19, 2005 at 9:56 AM (PDT)

18

Everyone keeps thinking Apple did it on purpose, I think it was a bug that slipped through when support for podcasts went it. They have been working on the Nano and 5G iPods since that time, so have not gone back to the other firmware to fix it yet.

Perhaps my suggestion to be patient will fall on deaf ears, I guess I can’t blame you being that you really want back the function you had, but why do we have to call it a conspiracy? Just because the 5G firmware was added doesn’t mean that have decided not to fix previous firmware, just that they haven’t yet.

Posted by Stuart on October 19, 2005 at 10:06 AM (PDT)

19

I have a 3G and its amazing. I’ve debated about getting the new ipod. You can put porn on it. Which is amazing. The 3G is old school.  I agree with Genius.

Posted by james on October 19, 2005 at 10:26 AM (PDT)

20

Stuart-  It’s been since June.  How much time do they need?  I’m not hopping on the conspiracy bandwagon yet, but 4 months and 3 subsequent updater updates later it’s still broken.  I think we’re all justified in being more than a little annoyed.

Posted by ZMan on October 19, 2005 at 11:01 AM (PDT)

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