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Apple ‘continues to increase competitive gap’ with new iPods
This morning’s iPod updates will “widen the gap between Apple and potential competition,” Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster said today. “We believe some will view the changes in the iPod product line as negative. Specifically, we expect to hear arguments that Apple is taking a hit to margins in reaction to competitive threats,” Munster wrote in a research note to clients obtained by iLounge. “We believe that Apple’s changes to the product line are more offensive than defensive. Apple clearly holds the leadership position on this market and we believe these changes will widen the gap between Apple and potential competitors that are trying to chip away at iPod market share.”
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It’s funny how all these ‘analysts’ see to think Apple can do no wrong. Considering that Apple’s first release of a 60GB Photo sold for $599, a drop of $150 would indicate to ME that they missed the boat on pricing the first time around, on BOTH the original Photos.
Boy, I’d be steamed if I purchased a 40GB Photo…
Posted by flatline response on February 23, 2005 at 7:25 AM (PST)
2
Hey Apple, here is a suggestion. A talking Ipod that will read the MP3 tags and announce the name of the song, artist, and album before the song begins to play. This would be a useful feature for anyone who carries the Ipod in a pocket or purse and can’t always see the display. Perfect for when you wonder just who did that song or what album it was from and can’t access the display easily to find out.
Posted by Fred H. on February 23, 2005 at 7:26 AM (PST)
3
If you’re comparing iPod prices to other players, keep in mind:
* Engraving is still free. (Nice anti-loss/theft feature.)
* A LOT of the iPod’s market qualifies for education discounts:
* iPod Photo 30GB for $319!!
* 60 GB for $419
* Shuffle 1 GB for $139
* Mini 4 GB for $179!
* 6 GB for $229
* 20 GB iPod for $269
The deal of the day is the new Photo models for sure!
Posted by Nagromme on February 23, 2005 at 7:27 AM (PST)
4
Nice trolling
but…
The original $599 60 GB iPod Photo was among the lowest-cost-per-MB portable players ever made by any company.
And now it has dropped in price… as ALL products do over time. So all products that come down in price after half a year “missed the boat?”
Oh, those crazy analysts, thinking the iPod is a success for Apple…
Posted by Nagromme on February 23, 2005 at 7:30 AM (PST)
5
If you look at the success of the iPod, you can easily see that Apple did not “miss the boat” at all. New technology initially, will always be expensive and as time goes by and as technology advances to the next level, the cost of the new product is always less.
Granted, there are some who want to be the “first ” one on the block with the new toy, well, with that honor comes the higher cost.
Posted by ezflyer on February 23, 2005 at 7:39 AM (PST)
6
Does Apple still make computers, or only MP3 players?
Posted by ape on February 23, 2005 at 8:10 AM (PST)
7
I’m not sure how “ontopic” Fred H is about his “talking iPod” idea but I’ve had the same idea numerous times, especially after going on a digital downloading spree with a lot of new music. I end up wondering who that group was or the song name, but I’m walking down the street with my iPod in my carrier bag, and I don’t have time to whipe it out.
Posted by leertracy in Los Angeles on February 23, 2005 at 8:19 AM (PST)
8
Not that the talking iPod idea is nesessarily bad, but I think most people know their song collection well enough to know which songs are playing. I guess a lot of music, mainly stuff you haven’t heard for years, it could be helpful occassionally.
Posted by ipod21 on February 23, 2005 at 8:33 AM (PST)
9
APE:
No. Apple stopped making computers eons ago. They still make those uber-cool iMac cutouts though…..
Posted by ahMEmon in Canada on February 23, 2005 at 8:47 AM (PST)
10
I hear you, Ape! How come all the news is suddenly about iPods today?
Lets get back to Mac Mini stories. Maybe someday Apple will find a way to make BOTH computers and iPods. Somehow. Maybe they could have different teams that work on different products? I’m sure it can be done, even though no other company makes more than one product line.
Posted by Nagromme on February 23, 2005 at 9:12 AM (PST)
11
LOL
the site is called “iPod"lounge, and your surprised at all the excess iPod news and lack of apple computer news.
Posted by ACLeroK212 on February 23, 2005 at 9:34 AM (PST)
12
I bought a 40gb and pissed like flatline response said.
Posted by Mr Integra in Sacramento on February 23, 2005 at 10:05 AM (PST)
13
Nagromme says:
“Nice trolling
but…
The original $599 60 GB iPod Photo was among the lowest-cost-per-MB portable players ever made by any company.
And now it has dropped in price… as ALL products do over time. So all products that come down in price after half a year “missed the boat?”“
Quoted from: http://www.ipodlounge.com/ipodnews_comments.php?id=6512_0_7_0_C
“Milunovich also noted that today’s 25 percent price reduction on the 60GB iPod photo suggests that “demand has been less than spectacular since its October debut.”
Um… OWNED.
Posted by NeoteriX in Houston, TX or Westchester County, NY on February 23, 2005 at 1:27 PM (PST)
14
Apple is known for price drops only to make room for something bigger and better at the hold price. Remembrer when 4Gs saw a price cut, and 40GB droped from $499 to $399. Everyone though that a 60GB iPod would take the $499 slot. Only it was the 60GB iPod photo.
I think this is Apple’s way of making room for an 80GB iPod photo at $500 and up.
Posted by Chris VandeVenter in Bismarck, ND on February 23, 2005 at 4:14 PM (PST)
15
actually the NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra 60GB at $300 would probably be the lowest cost per mb DAP, although quite bulky and unattractive.
Posted by Enigma on February 23, 2005 at 4:16 PM (PST)
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To Nagromme:
It would seem others have answered your challenge before I had the chance.
I like the 60GB Photo; the device itself would’ve made me regret buying the 40GB 4G, except for ONE KEY FACT:
I NEVER liked the insane price, especially when companies like Creative were putting their 60GB players out at a $320-$350 price point (street) at the same time. Not that I’m a big fan of Zens (been there, tried that), but you DID bring up the cost-per-storage issue.
Posted by flatline response on February 23, 2005 at 6:20 PM (PST)
17
In my opinion Apple is moving too quick on product releases. Think how many Mini’s were sold this Holiday season (only 8 weeks ago) to now be lowered $50. If I had bought one for someone, only to have a better model announced 2 months later I would be pissed. And I don’t understand the timing…Christmas is over, Valentines Day is over….The new Mini should have come out this summer, or next fall. They are still high on the sales of the Shuffle. If the company puts out new designs every 8-12 weeks people are going to start either waiting for the deals when old product gets discontinued and the price is dropped, or not buying at all. I think it’s a fine line between making people happy and pissing people off.
Posted by schaaking in Minneapolis on February 24, 2005 at 2:23 AM (PST)