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Apple finds, fights PC virus on limited number of 5G iPods

In an interview with iLounge this morning, Apple Vice President of Hardware Product Marketing Greg Joswiak disclosed that the company has discovered and taken steps to fight a Windows virus found on a small number of enhanced, fifth-generation iPods sold since September 12, 2006. The virus, RavMonE.exe, affects only Windows computers, and anti-virus software included with most Windows computers should detect and remove it. According to Joswiak, “it appears that this Windows virus or worm does not directly cause any data damage, but it can lower the security of the machine.”

“We recently discovered that a small number, less than 1% of video iPods, left our contract manufacturer carrying a virus that affects only Windows computers,” explained Joswiak, who says the company has had “less than 25 reports concerning this problem.” “The iPod nano, iPod shuffle and Mac OS X are not affected, and all Video iPods now shipping are virus free. We’re upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset at ourselves for not catching it.”

Apple’s official Support page for the virus provides links and applications to detect and remove the virus, if a Windows-installed PC lacks the ability to do so on its own, and recommends that you scan other mass-storage devices for the virus if it is detected. Though the company did not specify whether the virus’s presence was attributable to Apple’s decision to ship recent fifth-generation iPods pre-formatted for Windows PCs rather than Macintosh computers, Joswiak noted that Apple has taken steps to prevent this from happening in the future.

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That’s a rather arrogant position for Apple to take “We’re upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses”.

Almost like when “Hell Froze Over” and the “best Windows program ever” was released (with a few bugs).

I wonder if iTunes will be getting an update any time soon, or will it come with an Antivirus program?

Posted by Daveoc64 on October 17, 2006 at 2:51 PM (CDT)


Huh. They are upset with ‘Windows’ for not being more hardy against such viruses and upset withemselves for not catching it?

I wonder how they feel about themselves after the ridiculously buggy and bloated iTunes 7 and 7.0.1 was prematurely released?? They can’t be happy with themselves over THAT.

Posted by JWj on October 17, 2006 at 2:52 PM (CDT)


You know the whole “Mac is better than PC” marketing they’re doing right now?

I bet Apple programmers created the virus themselves so that Windows would look retarded.

But then again, since when does Windows need Apple’s help when it comes to looking retarded?

Posted by JokerPoker on October 17, 2006 at 3:31 PM (CDT)


Apple manufacturing and distributing a product carrying a known virus on it somehow in your mind makes another company other than apple look “retarded”????

Posted by n/a on October 17, 2006 at 3:51 PM (CDT)


I once adopted a cat that had a virus. I think it was retarded. It too lacked an equalizer.

Posted by Jesse on October 17, 2006 at 3:56 PM (CDT)


n/a, if that IS your name, think about it.

Apple secretly has a virus written that only affects Windows user’s iPods.

That would make Mac OSX look better than Windows.

Anyhow, Windows is a product, and I was stating that the product is retarded when compared with other alternatives. 

Microsoft is in no way shape or form retarded.  In fact, I would venture to say that they are marketing geniuses.

Posted by JokerPoker on October 17, 2006 at 3:57 PM (CDT)


Is Creative going to sue Apple over this too?

/They did it first

Posted by LukeA on October 17, 2006 at 5:30 PM (CDT)


C’mon people. Someone in the supply chain messed up - it happens. When you subcontract a lot of work, sooner or later someone outside your immediate control screws up. It’s a Windows worm so logically it is related to preformatting the iPods for Windows, but in the end it’s a quality control issue and they should have caught it.

That’s all there is, you can move along and stop insulting each other now.

Posted by Weeble on October 17, 2006 at 6:56 PM (CDT)


Big deal, 25 iPods have been found to have it…..Out of how many million being sold??  It’s pointless to even be spending so much time on this.

Posted by MatrixSJD on October 17, 2006 at 8:40 PM (CDT)


thanks matrix, I have the virus, it is very important to get the word out.

Posted by jared m on October 17, 2006 at 10:27 PM (CDT)


if they say 25, you can bet it’s more like 250,000… most people would never even realize they had it with out looking… Apple would never own up to it unless it was a major problem, damage control time, the sooner the better…

Posted by woot there it is.. on October 17, 2006 at 10:43 PM (CDT)


This is gonna be front page news on tabloids.

Posted by moo on October 18, 2006 at 6:37 AM (CDT)


How is this even possible? Aren’t iPods still shipped with HFS+ format, and when first used on a Windows machine get reformatted as FAT? Why is an iPod connected to a Windows machine during manufacturing? How does a Windows virus get on an HFS+ disk, and how could that possibly affect a Windows user, who can’t even mount an HFS volume?

Posted by m.s. on October 18, 2006 at 7:52 AM (CDT)


doh. If I’d read to the bottom, I would have found that the latest iPods are being shipped FAT formatted. “doh” to Apple, too.

Posted by m.s. on October 18, 2006 at 8:49 AM (CDT)


...think about it.

Apple secretly has a virus written that only affects Windows user’s iPods.

I thought about it. Stupid. What makes you think that this would be under the radar to the DOJ, Redmond’s legal staff and numerous product litigation lawyers who would LOVE a shot at all that iPod profit?

As it is, Apple is still on the hook because they failed in their quality control. They can whine about all the holes in Windoze, but they are the ones responsible for making sure their products are clean from malware.

Posted by flatline response on October 18, 2006 at 11:52 AM (CDT)


My ipod had this virus until a few minutes ago - is there any way to report this to Apple?  I suspect more than 25 ipods might be infected…

Posted by Ali on October 18, 2006 at 5:19 PM (CDT)


My iPod had the virus. When I plugged it into my home machine PC-cillin detected it right away.  I ordered mine on 9/12 and received it on 9/20.
This makes 3 people with only 17 comments here.  Sounds like a lot more than only 25 units to me.

Posted by BulkHedd on October 18, 2006 at 5:45 PM (CDT)


The conspiracy theories are absurd. There’s NO WAY that Apple did this on purpose to make Windows look bad. If a Windows user receives a virus from an Apple iPod, they’re going to blame Apple, not Microsoft.

Reverse the situation. If you installed Microsoft Office and it introduced a virus on your Mac, who would YOU blame?

No matter how they spin this, they screwed up. I think their cheap shot at Windows (“for not being more hardy”) makes Apple look even worse.

Having said all this, I think the situation will blow over rather quickly without any impact on iPod sales. But it’ll give anti-Apple bloggers (and commenters) ammunition for a long time.

Posted by BJ Nemeth on October 18, 2006 at 7:31 PM (CDT)


When creative found a virus on their mp3 players they gave all of the affected serial numbers.  Apple could at least show the same courtesy. AND blaming Windows??? comeon

Posted by VB on October 18, 2006 at 7:50 PM (CDT)


I just purchased a 30 GB video ipod, however, my windows pc is unable to download the latest 7.0 version of itunes, a message appears stating the version cannot install because of HKEY warning. Any suggestions?????

Posted by Denis Doherty on October 18, 2006 at 10:53 PM (CDT)

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