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Shocking. Feeble attempt to get su to buy Apple TV units. But not surprising.

Posted by drevo_uk in UK on September 9, 2007 at 1:20 AM (PDT)

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hi, i just pre-ordered a classic and i bought the universal dock, but it doesn’t have the av cable, since i already own a product with the chip can i buy a non-official av cable or do i need the apple av cable to work?
thanks

Posted by Takao on September 9, 2007 at 2:22 AM (PDT)

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if it was just DRM, then just downrez for the old cables!

“Made for iPod” accessories are about the only reason I’ve bought 3 generations of iPods.

I don’t buy @ the iTunes store, and now it looks like I don’t need to buy @ the apple store either. 

and to think I was seriously considering a macbook pro for the next laptop.  not!

Posted by Highgrovemanor on September 9, 2007 at 4:51 PM (PDT)

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Sorry Apple, you just lost another sale with this bit of updating to your newest iPods.  Was planning to stop by the Apple store when I saw this news, not anymore.....

Posted by nogo on September 10, 2007 at 5:01 PM (PDT)

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I just purchased a new 160GB iPod Classic on Saturday Night, made a special trip into NYC to pick it up (over 2hr. trip), and was thrilled with it until I discovered a problem with my unit - the “Video Out” option didn’t seem to work, at all!  After several hours of trying to determine if there was something physically wrong with my unit or if the software had been corrupted, etc. (after several “Soft Resets” and “Restores") I determined that something was in fact wrong with it...Apple struck again with their Stupidity! 

How can you change something like this and not notify your paying customers?  How can the Apple web site not mention this nor even indicate that a “new” cable is needed to “unlock” the video output of the iPod Classic? 

Not only did I waste close to $100 bucks on buying a Monster Cable Composite Cable for my 5 Gen 60GB iPod that will now not work with my new 160GB iPod Classic, but about 8hrs. of my time trying to trouble shoot Apple and their foolish acts.

In case you too are wondering if your iPod is broken, it is not it is just Apple being Apple...now the question comes...keep it or return it...I think I will RETURN IT TO APPLE!!!

Additionally, to add insult to injury the Apple iTunes store and web site also fail to tell you that their “Games” Will NOT Work on your new iPod Classic, even though they actually tell you that they do...So Don’t Buy Any Games They Will NOT Work on the iPod Classic.

Posted by Emilio on September 11, 2007 at 9:59 AM (PDT)

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I own a shuffle, a 5.5 iPod, an 8 gig iPhone and now the 160 Classic.

I can’t believe Apple didn’t tell us about the TV Out change.  And now we can’t even purchase the cables.

I’ll have to purchase them because I use video out as much as I do audio, but if they don’t fix this with a software update, it will be the last Apple purchase I make.

Posted by Sucker on September 11, 2007 at 7:19 PM (PDT)

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So we have to wait for the HongKong guys to catch up - then we buy an ipodclassic-cable for 1$+S/H

And for all the guy whining with their 200$ iphone - I bought an 1x1,8GhzG5 when it was released and 2 months later, it had 2CPUs and was 400$ cheaper - THAT was a ripoff ...

Posted by DHeld on September 12, 2007 at 12:36 AM (PDT)

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This is ridiculous. After having a friend of mine lose my 30g iPod (yes we’re still friends) a couple months ago, I finally broke down and bought a brand new, shiny 80g iPod Classic. After spending hours loading the thing up with songs, pictures and videos I try to play it on my TV though the $75 Monster AV cord I bought with the 30g. Apparently this isn’t an ‘approved’ video-out product so........kinda pissed.

I’m seriously considering returning the thing and getting stuck with the 10% re-stocking fee. Oh, and it doesn’t come with a case either, not even the crappy sock thing. Ridiculous

Posted by Neill Esss on September 12, 2007 at 12:44 AM (PDT)

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This will be cracked in under a month, just like all other DRM and copy protection.

Posted by tomtiki on September 12, 2007 at 8:36 AM (PDT)

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You guys aren’t seeing the big picture. In order to offer HD content Apple is going to have to do the same things your HD TV manufacturer and others (including Microsoft and Sony and etc.) have had to do; add things like support for HDCP. You don’t notice it on your TVs because it’s not being fully implemented yet. But it will be.

Yes, it sucks that our old peripherals may not work on the new iPods, but it would suck even more if we couldn’t watch the HD content that’s coming soon to an iPod near you.

Make no mistake, these new iPods are not the same as the old iPods. They’re not music players with video playback tacked on. And they’ll be doing a lot than they’ve ever done in the near future. This isn’t about selling AppleTVs, this is about being ready for the next step.

Posted by Maggie on September 12, 2007 at 8:45 AM (PDT)

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Maggie,

The specifications listed on Apple’s web site indicate that the iPod is SD only - not HD. Sorry, but this is not the next step. It would be doubtful that they could ever get the crunching power needed for HD into the iPod.

Posted by Scott on September 12, 2007 at 2:09 PM (PDT)

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This is flat out lame and is starting to resemble the same type of logic as our wonderful administration in DC.  I have no intention of watching tv on my apple monitor. All I wanted to do was drive displays without getting into somethings as horsey as a dvd player. Remember your audience Jobs! We like your innovations and we live to innovate by using them to full potential.

Posted by Anthony on September 12, 2007 at 5:37 PM (PDT)

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I just purchased a 80G iPOd Classic yesterday to output iPod video to TV. I am greatly disappointed as I found out last night that the Video OUT option is locked out. Shame to Apple for not advising intended purchasers.

Posted by Jehu Chan on September 12, 2007 at 5:38 PM (PDT)

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Im gonna say it is a DRM issue because the head phones port has four connections (1. audio left 2. audio right 3. negative 4. video. the video connection is the second from the top.) so one would assume the head phone jack is enabled for video but apple disabled it through the firmware. Why? pressure from the a55holes at the MPAA.

Posted by dead bunny on September 13, 2007 at 12:51 PM (PDT)

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Most important question:

Once you unlock it with an “apple approved” peripheral, does it stay unlocked?

ie. can I plug it in to my friend’s official apple video dock, turn on video-out, then use my el-cheapo cables (or expensive non-approved dock)?

Posted by Wes on September 13, 2007 at 2:07 PM (PDT)

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Just a Thought…

What if you Connected to an Apple Dock and Past through it to another AV Device.

Or

SendStation Dock Extender (https://www.sendstation.com/us/products/dockextender/ ) Or another device Like it with an Authenication Chip In it Connected To the iPod Then to another AV Dock Connector AV Device might work.

Bob.

Posted by Bob Dole on September 13, 2007 at 5:54 PM (PDT)

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the iPhone logo was removed from the bottom of Apples listing for these cables - really disappointed in this - I was really hoping that the iPhone could do video out.

Posted by Ariza on September 13, 2007 at 11:39 PM (PDT)

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Its a bit like Toyota releasing a car that will only work on Toyota approved roads but they failed tell you that at their launch or when you purchased the car. I feel ripped off.

Posted by ian on September 14, 2007 at 8:03 AM (PDT)

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I want to play MP4s I created.

First, went and bought the Nano3 = $200. Mac store says try this composite cable = $19.
Nice; audio is flowing. Can’t get TV Out switch turned on though.

Mac store says I need universal dock and cable. Return cable, buy dock/cable combo kit for $100. Nice; audio flowing, TV Out now on.

Still no video to TV.

So, back to the Mac store. Return iPod, universal doc and cable. Priceless.

I am not sure but I am suspecting the only video that will play is authenticated video, and the only place to get authenticated video is from iTunes. Do you think Apple is not disclosing the DRM b.s. because it will repel buyers?

Go Amazon.

Posted by On The Fly on September 14, 2007 at 8:22 PM (PDT)

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Well like a lot of you I got the 160 gig Classic and yup screwed my self 3 times buy ging back and forth to Best Buy to get a new one till now. I’m pissed because I have a Pioneer D3 with the I pod cable and yet cant use the video now. So Apple you can kiss my ### and I will be returning you crap and get my self a ZUNE and place it next to my Xbox 360 just to look at.

Posted by Matt on September 14, 2007 at 8:56 PM (PDT)