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So apparently Mr. Neff is part of the seemingly neverending supply of analysts who get paid good money for stating

a) the obvious
b) their nebulous idea of the future derived from the obvious

In fact they get paid so well that they mentally salivate over their next Lexus so much they develop a tendency to use vocabulary that sounds similar to their new toy in a pathetic attempt to appear different from the countless other analysts stating round about the same.

Please, Bear Stearns, hire me, I want to be your analyst too!

Posted by Bad Beaver on January 27, 2006 at 10:27 AM (PDT)

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Sony seems to always shoot themselves in the foot.

Apple has also shot themselves in the foot several times, but the current success of the iPod has blinded most analysts.

If you’re gonna say that Apple is on its way to becoming what Sony always wanted to be, then I think you should also say that Apple is on its way to being what Apple always wanted to be.

Better late than never.

Posted by Talking Madness in Los Angeles on January 27, 2006 at 10:36 AM (PDT)

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It’s obvious that Neff doesn’t read the tech worlds news or opinions. This stuff has been all over the place for years.

The truth apple has one really really big product that no-one has yet to compete on the same level with. And only saw the giant success after opening it up to PC users.

Thats a long ways from being a Nexus of technology, unless your a Mac user that is

Posted by Jasper Johns on January 27, 2006 at 11:00 AM (PDT)

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Has anyone here heard that there could be a red iPod coming out as part of Bono’s Product Red charity thing?

Posted by tom on January 27, 2006 at 11:52 AM (PDT)

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Totally, man, totally. It’s a nexus of charity.

Posted by Bad Beaver on January 27, 2006 at 11:59 AM (PDT)

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“Apple has also shot themselves in the foot several times, but the current success of the iPod has blinded most analysts.”

Umm… I think it’s Apple’s rising stock values   that “blind” most analyst.  If you’re going to say Apple’s shot themselves in the foot, at least give examples.

Flamebait if I ever saw it (and shame on me for even responding to it, but it annoys me when iLounge doesn’t moderate it’s boards more closely.)  Remember when we used to talk about iPods???

Posted by billy bob on January 27, 2006 at 12:11 PM (PDT)

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Apple *have* shot themselves in the foot several times, but the ramifications of each incident haven’t been as disastrous as Sony’s Stuff-ups, they’ve still been able to limp along, and in some cases, the stuff-up has actually benefited the company.
1. Licencing Mac OS to Clones.
2. Increasing Prices
3. Cancelling the Clone Program after it had started.
4. the G4 Cube, G3 iBook, Last Revision Powerbook and Hardware Issues.
5. Taking so long to update the OS.
6. Been so Evangelistic against x86 Processors.
… to name a few

The thing is, Apple Users are more forgiving of Stuff-ups, since they can’t live without their Macs.

Posted by Daniel on January 27, 2006 at 12:45 PM (PDT)

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this is silly; every company has made mistakes in its history.  what company has a perfect track record? 

what you get right is a lot more important than what you get wrong.  when apple gets it right, they hit it out of the park.  and they’ve had a very good recent history of getting things right.

Posted by gaijin on January 27, 2006 at 2:57 PM (PDT)

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Here is my two cents. Its all about vision, and what “it” as a company can achieve. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. Of course its about money, its what you do with it, and the synegy you create with that product.  Microsoft has all the money in the world, and has conquared the world with its software. But its still considered only a mass product (whatever that means) I live in both worlds, but always feel compelled to the mac; for the way its built and how much care and compassion they give their products. And yes, that includes their messed years we all know. And then again who’s perfect.

Posted by Kastor Troy on January 27, 2006 at 4:25 PM (PDT)

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The potential is certainly there. Two problems: (1) Apple aint done a whole lot about it yet. They’ve got ipod and they’ve got iTunes shop, but it doesn’t go much further yet. (2) A lot of companies want to stop Apple. Apple aint unstoppable yet, they need to really push ahead with complementary technologies.

Posted by Countach on January 28, 2006 at 4:57 AM (PDT)

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…to name a few

Of recent Apple-oops: don’t forget Job’s previous anti-flash DAP opinions (more like venom). Really explains the Scuffle. And subsequent nano.

I get a kick in how these “anal-ists” all show their unrequited lust for product planning, as if they actually knew what the hell they’re talking about. HDTV on a device form factor the size of an iPod…an oxymoron if there ever was one.

Posted by flatline response on January 28, 2006 at 2:28 PM (PDT)

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Related to this story is how Apple is rebranding “Mac” with names like Mac Book Pro. I think they’re misguided. the key word is “pod”. they should be trying to brand everything with “pod” or “i-something”.

if iPod had been called Mac Music Portable, Apple would be belly up now. iPod is one of those magical words like Walkman was in the Eighties. It’s cool and futuristic, yet simple, generic and unpretentious enough to carry on and on.

instead of Mac Book Pro, what about

Podbook or Homepod & Workpod

Posted by Aaron on January 31, 2006 at 6:48 AM (PDT)

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Aaron-

Nice point.

Posted by Talking Madness in Los Angeles on January 31, 2006 at 5:39 PM (PDT)