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Apple Video iPod demystified

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By Dennis Lloyd

Publisher, iLounge
Published: Tuesday, May 25, 2004
News Categories: iPod

“Rumors have been circulating around for months now about a secret Video iPod that Apple has in the works. Most all the news coming out on subject has been pure speculation mixed with anonymous sources who claim to offer some tantalizing details, but truth be told, we know little to nothing about Apple’s next-generation iPod. Nonetheless, the rumor mill and constant talk about such a device on various websites reemphasizes the point that people want an Apple branded Portable Media Player (a handheld device that stores and plays back digital music, video, and photos) in the iPod form factor. Are you listening Steve Jobs?”

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1

Yes I’m listening.  Just hold on, I’m just busy kicking Buddha’s ###.

http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/archives/000241.html#000241

Posted by Steve Jobs on May 25, 2004 at 7:04 AM (PDT)

2

Heh heh, sorry that was me.  I love that site. 

Back to the subject at hand, I wouldn’t mind having a video iPod if I hadn’t just shelled out 229.00 on a silver iPod mini a few months ago.

Posted by Chris D. on May 25, 2004 at 7:05 AM (PDT)

3

I really don’t think that many people actually want a video iPod. I sure don’t. Why would I want to try and watch movies on a tiny screen on a portable device that already has poor battery life when I can use my TV and DVD player, or my computer, or my laptop, or…. you get the picture. These sorts of devices are already in the marketplace, have been for several years, and their lackluster sales seem to bear out that no one really wants one.

So there.

Gregory

Posted by Grrr. There's just no need for a video iPod on May 25, 2004 at 7:31 AM (PDT)

4

Maybe just blue tooth?  is that too much to ask for?  make the ipod better before putting a bunch of stuff on there that will jack up the price and lower the battery life?

I think that if anything happens with video it will not be in the form of an iPod.  New hardware?  Perhaps a rustic iProd?
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWCH!

Posted by Sense on May 25, 2004 at 8:25 AM (PDT)

5

I would much rather have a bluetooth, wi-fi enabled ipod, so we could sync without cables, and trade stuff with other ipod’s

Posted by Uranus on May 25, 2004 at 8:29 AM (PDT)

6

”...people want an Apple branded Portable Media Player…”

No, they don’t.  They like the sound of it.  They like the idea.

But I bet if you produced one, with the sort of small screen, short battery life, limited capacity and/or mediocre quality, and form factor that’s possible today, they might feel differently.

A video player is a qualitatively different proposition from a music player.  It’s not just a matter of bunging a screen on and upping the capacity.  People listen to music in a fundamentally different way from how they watch video.  You only need to look at the difference between TV and radio to see that.  Video is an immersive experience; it generally takes all your attention.  Whereas music isn’t—most people tend to listen to music whilst doing something else (driving, walking, cycling, washing up, working, &c); watching TV whilst doing any of those is likely to be counterproductive at best, and probably extremely dangerous!

If anyone thinks that a video iPod is a great idea, could you please post situations in which you think you’d use it?

Posted by Gidds in UK on May 25, 2004 at 9:21 AM (PDT)

7

I have an iBook pretty much permanently in my Living room that I ferry video files back and forth between the bedroom comp on my iPod or various other portable media. Now, i don’t know that much about signal processing, but wouldn’t it be possible for a device to output the video signal via the standard audio jack? Video in Right speaker, mono audion in the Left? I wonder if I could do this myself using video out and a digital in to recapture…

Posted by CharlesV on May 25, 2004 at 9:33 AM (PDT)

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I like the idea of a wi-fi enabled pod, but I don’t think I’d want to do the initial sync over wi-fi. Updates wouldn’t be bad though. Bluetooth, in my opinion, isn’t worth it. It’s too slow for the amount of data that we would be transferring over it.

As for the video iPod, I like the idea but I think I’d rather see it in a separate device. Although my opinion could change depending on how that device was designed… smile

Posted by Rich in Rhode Island, USA on May 25, 2004 at 9:37 AM (PDT)

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I thought Steve said that he didn’t want to produce a video iPod.  So it boggles me that people have been spreading this nasty rumor!  He talked about how video stuff is a “foreground” activity, while music and such is a “background” activity - which is totally true!  While it might be a cool idea, and makes for nifty little gadgets, I don’t think the next iPod will feature this capability….I do think that enabling digital photo storage…sharing…and video output to a tv would be a great added feature for the ipod though!

Posted by ()verBored on May 25, 2004 at 9:39 AM (PDT)

10

I wouldn’t want a Video iPod.  It certainly sounds cool, but I don’t see much use for it during the day…

http://www.ultramookie.com/comments/853_0_1_0_C/

Posted by mookie on May 25, 2004 at 9:47 AM (PDT)

11

I can listen to music at work, I can’t watch movies.  So really, who needs a portable video player with them all day?

It would be nice to have on long trips (where I wasn’t driving) or other special occasions, but there is no need for it in everyday life.  Most of the time I’d be places where I could watch video on a 30” screen…why would I settle for a 2” one?

There are other devices out there that play video and their sales figures speak for themselves.  Nobody wants or needs it.

Posted by Ryan on May 25, 2004 at 10:25 AM (PDT)

12

all i want is a color screen, the ability to store and display photos, and high bit rate line in recording.. add any of those in and i’ll be happy.

Posted by pigpen65 on May 25, 2004 at 10:28 AM (PDT)

13

BTW, i would like a video ipod. not so much to watch movies on, but to be able to hook it up to any tv with a video line out and store movies on for portable use. keep in mind that the next gen will have a 50gb HD at the least. that’s a lot of room for only music.

Posted by pigpen65 on May 25, 2004 at 10:31 AM (PDT)

14

I think a color LCD screen is the most you could hope for…or at least another B&W screen with more resolution.

Posted by Ryan on May 25, 2004 at 10:36 AM (PDT)

15

Let me guess, all who want this video pod are windoze users, right?

Posted by mike on May 25, 2004 at 12:44 PM (PDT)

16

Gidds asked on May 25, 04 11:21 am when some one might use a video iPod. I bought my iPod with the intent to use it for still photo storage. My current chip was 64 mb (barely 25 photos) and I saw that 1 gig and 5 gig chips were around the price of the iPod and the belkin photo attachment. the 15 gigs of the iPod was what i would need for long trips away from my iMac. A color screen would mean that I could preview my photos and delete the ones I wouldn’t need or brag to my friends about the great pictures I took. This would be a lot more use full than a pda and an iPod.

Posted by Josh on May 25, 2004 at 12:45 PM (PDT)

17

is all about music you idiot!!!
steve xxx

Posted by steve job on May 25, 2004 at 12:57 PM (PDT)

18

I am not crazy about the idea of a video iPod in the format the author of this article presents it, in fact I don’t like the article or the author.  He sounds like a 13 year old boy, stupid.  Does the author even know what quote Steve Jobs ad-libbed that From?  Anyways, music (just restating what has been said before) can be listen to do all kinds of things, working out, for some, reading, just sitting, the latter is the only time you could watch a video iPod.  I can only see a portable video media player being useful to people who commute on a train or as a passenger in a car he/she would rather not be in.  I do like the idea of plugging the iPod into a tv, but even that has some limitations and why’s (ie, does your friends tv have a composite in?).  I really like the idea of photos, but that is more of a show thing.  My iPod is my personal music for me, that is what I want and that is what I have.  I would suggest lower prices as the biggest improvement Apple could make the iPod, that and longer battery life and always smaller, those three points should constantly be improved upon.  Where the techno savvy might appreciate this super-do-it-all-iPod, I think all it would do for regular mr and mrs smoe is confuse them and create disinterest.

Posted by slider on May 25, 2004 at 1:04 PM (PDT)

19

“Its the music, Stupid.”

I don’t want a portable video player.  I don’t see the point.  Also, there are several problems with the idea.  Video takes MUCH more HD space than music.  Then you have the problem of actually getting the video—“Ripping” DVDs is bound to cause legal issues with movie studios..

Posted by Cameron on May 25, 2004 at 1:35 PM (PDT)

20

I would consider buying a video iPod, but mostly because I’m an iPod fan; not because I have sudden urges to watch a feature film while jogging.

I think the iPod has a ways to go before it should even think about going into the video side of elite consumerism.  I would love a better battery, better line in/out, and on-the-go picture viewing.  And without any inside knowledge, I would venture that Apple will put these out with the nextgen model.

Posted by dethbrakr in Tacoma, WA on May 25, 2004 at 1:41 PM (PDT)

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