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Canada to raise iPod prices?

According to the Toronto Star, the Canadian Copyright Board may approve a 20% levy on electronic media tomorrow, including MP3 players and hard drives. With the Canadian Dollar rising and this on the horizon, maybe now is the right time to get that iPod.

“That 20-gigabyte MP3 player going under the Christmas tree this season could soon cost 20 per cent more if the Copyright Board approves a proposed levy tomorrow on the sale of digital music devices.

It could also mean new levies on recordable DVDs, removable flash memory and micro hard drives, as well as increased tariff rates on blank cassettes and recordable CDs, assuming a music-industry group called the Canadian Private Copying Collective, or CPCC, gets its way.”

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1

Will this effect us in the United States?  Please responed.

Posted by Jim on December 11, 2003 at 4:56 PM (PDT)

2

I’m sorry I just saw this:

Members also hold the levy will increase prices on products and tempt consumers to buy in the United States, where a levy does not exist. This punishes Canadian businesses, they argue, and will have an impact on the Canadian economy.

Posted by Jim on December 11, 2003 at 4:58 PM (PDT)

3

It’s true. That will hurt the Canadian economy.

Posted by :| on December 11, 2003 at 5:42 PM (PDT)

4

Jim, no worries: Canadian law has no ability to directly affect us.  However, stores that are willing to ship to Canada from the US, or stores along hte border (where Canadians could make a small trip to make hte purchase) may enjoy a little boost.

Posted by druid on December 11, 2003 at 6:34 PM (PDT)

5

Yikes!

I’m going to have to go out and get a few spindles of cds tomorrow!

Dammit!  Canada sucks so much!  Thank god i got my ipod 2 weeks ago.

Posted by vanillacoke on December 11, 2003 at 6:58 PM (PDT)

6

It was bound to happen.. at least we can download all the mp3’s we want for free* smile

Posted by noname in Ottawa on December 11, 2003 at 7:13 PM (PDT)

7

“It was bound to happen.. at least we can download all the mp3’s we want for free* smile

You’re being sarcastic, right? wink

Posted by monkedsel on December 11, 2003 at 7:34 PM (PDT)

8

this isnt official yet is it? Thats crazy, 20% is alot of money and im planning to buy a 20 gb this month and it will cost an extra 100 dollars to the 600 dollars it already costs.

Posted by dynomite on December 11, 2003 at 7:46 PM (PDT)

9

I don’t think this will happen but if it does it will be a mistake.  As some smart people have pointed out. “they will just order products from the US or even Mexico if they have to.  Noted the exchange rate isn’t the greatest but I would rather pay more than pay a levy. 

Cheers.

 

Posted by Jeff on December 11, 2003 at 8:02 PM (PDT)

10

No monkedsel I actually wasn’t joking, the reason they have a levy on electronic media is to make up for the fact that we can download music off p2p networks 100% legitly.. we just can’t upload.

For more info check out Cnet’s or my brothers website about it.

Posted by noname in Ottawa on December 11, 2003 at 9:46 PM (PDT)

11

Great sites

Thanks.

Well we will have to wait and see what happens. 

Cheers to waiting.

Jeff

Posted by Jeff on December 11, 2003 at 10:24 PM (PDT)

12

Actually, Jeff, its not true that you can’t upload. According to the Canadian Copyright Act, we have the right to “private copying” which essentially says, in part, that if I have music that I purchased and I give it to you and you make a copy - that’s legal. However, If I have that same music (which I purchased) and I make a copy and give the copy to you - that’s illegal. I think the differentation is there to prevent commercial duplication and selling of works. At any rate, given this description it seems to me that P2P networks fall into legal “private copying” under the Copyright Act - so long as the only files that you are sharing is music that you have actually purchased.

The levy is complete crap… completely idiotic. We are supposed to be living in a free market economy but instead we have this tax applied to ALL media to prop up an industry that was unwilling or unable to address changes in the delivery of their product. Completely stupid.

Of course, the situation in the US is even worse. The RIAA has successfully made every potential customer into an adversary with their lawsuits. I’m not sure which business school that was taught in, but it must have been an American one. I think that the reason that the “big 5” labels are having such a hard time is because of their pig-headedness about digital media delivery from day one. They, quite purposely, took this path and I think they deserve every pissed off consumer they’ve got. I personally would not buy another product from any RIAA member company ever again, if possible, and think that any American that would should give his head a shake. (here’s the list if you’re interested).

Cheers,
Brad

Posted by Brad on December 11, 2003 at 11:19 PM (PDT)

13

The worst thing is, this effects small business.

I work at a photography studio and we burn backups of everything that we do.  we easily use over 100 cds a month.  And none of that is for music, just our own created pictures. 

its almost funny how the use of a cd-r for data storage is not even understood by these psychos. 

Posted by vanillacoke on December 12, 2003 at 5:32 AM (PDT)

14

I was reading the acutal proposed tarriff at their website and this is what directly relates to the ipod.

Posted by vanillacoke on December 12, 2003 at 6:07 AM (PDT)

15

(cont) sorry i hit submit by accident -


Here is the proposed law pertaining to ipods from the copyright boards website

Posted by vanillacoke on December 12, 2003 at 6:10 AM (PDT)

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                                    “$21 for each gigabyte of memory in each non removable hard drive incorporated into each mp3 player….”

So that means the new ipod prices (with taxes and levy applied) would be

10GB - $746!!!
20GB - $1148!!!!!
40GB - $1804!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by vanillacoke on December 12, 2003 at 6:12 AM (PDT)

17

Haha… wow, vanillacoke.  Nice math.  Dang, guys… better hope this doesnt pass wink

Posted by azdude_15gb on December 12, 2003 at 6:26 AM (PDT)

18

To vanillacoke and others in Canada getting screwed by the levy, if you order your media from the states by mail-order the levy is not applied at customs. If you’re a business using lots of media for non-music related storage, I’d sugest this as the best course of action to take until we manage to kill the levy here in Canada.

Cheers!
Brad

Posted by Brad on December 12, 2003 at 7:47 AM (PDT)

19

Brad - how would we not get levied at Customs?

Posted by Robin on December 12, 2003 at 11:03 AM (PDT)

20

” When a person requests a file over a p2p network, like Kazaa, the network sends out requests to the effect of, “Hey, Mr. X is looking for song Y, do you have a copy?” Your computer has results, and sends the information back through the network to Mr. X. Mr. X, seeing the result, decides to download it. He sends a request to your computer for the file. Here’s what’s key: he does not log onto your computer, make a copy of Song Y, and send it back. Your computer receives the request for Song Y, and then your computer makes the copy by reading the information off of your hard drive and transmits it to him. He now has a copy. Thus, whenever someone downloads from your computer, your computer makes a copy for their use. This is clearly infringement because you are responsible for what your computer does. ”

Posted by noname in Ottawa on December 12, 2003 at 12:14 PM (PDT)

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