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Copy-protected CDs useless to iPod owners

Copy-protected albums from Foo Fighters, Dave Matthews Band and others continue to sell well despite complaints about their incompatibility with iPods.

“Aiming to curb piracy, labels like Sony BMG, which released both records, are rolling out copy-protected albums in the United States, which let users make three exact duplicates of a CD, and store files on a PC in Microsoft Corp.‘s Windows Media format,” reports Reuters. “But the copy-protection bars users from importing music onto iPods since Apple’s Fairplay software is incompatible with Windows.”

The news agency notes that about a third of the 252 customer reviews of the new Foo Fighter CD this week on Amazon complained about the protection. “This CD has a copy protection scheme that makes it totally useless to 30 million iPod owners,” wrote one reviewer. “How could a band be so stupid as to alienate such a huge percentage of their fans?”

Record executives are continuing talks with Apple to make the CDs compatible with iPods, and point out that they have released versions of the albums on Apple’s iTunes Music Store for iPod owners. “That appeased some iPod users, but others are still angry because they like to physically own a disc before importing it to iPods,” said Reuters.

American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu said that both Apple and the record companies would benefit if they reach an agreement on the copy protection. “Apple’s the leader in digital music. It doesn’t make sense to release too many copy-protected CDs if they’re incompatible with iPods. But Apple could also be at risk if these CDs keep selling well,” he said.

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1

Unless you rip using iTunes on the Mac. No problems there. wink

Posted by Dave McLean on August 4, 2005 at 1:27 PM (PDT)

2

I’m confused.  I bought DMB and Foo Fighters with “Copy protect” and had no issues using iTunes (Windows) and synching with my iPod.

Posted by Bill on August 4, 2005 at 1:29 PM (PDT)

3

my sister bought the Foo Fighters album.  iTunes windows on her PC would not properly import the tracks, ie. they had blips and bleeps in the resultant encodings.

when i ripped the CD to my PC with iTunes, it worked flawlessly.

I don’t know why it wouldn’t work on her PC…

hers is a compaq AMD Athlon 3100+ XP 512, 160GB, winXP sp2

mine is a home brew AMD 64 3200+ with 1GB, 250GB, winXP sp2

Posted by StinkieDMB on August 4, 2005 at 1:38 PM (PDT)

4

1. Turn off autoplay.
2. Insert CD.
3. Rip as normal.

Its invasion of our fair use rights like this that drive people to P2P. Much easier than having to hassle with a “CD” you pay good money for.

Posted by Josh on August 4, 2005 at 1:47 PM (PDT)

5

all you have to do is stop a service from running, its still a #####

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/

for those people who it worked on windows, the cd may not have autorun, in which case, the service would not be running

Posted by z22 on August 4, 2005 at 1:48 PM (PDT)

6

This goes beyond just trying to “prevent piracy.” Sony is trying to use its music as a way to battle the iPod. By preventing iPod users from being able to listen to its best-selling CDs, Sony is hoping that consumers will stop buying iPods. As long as these albums continue to sell, Sony will continue to use its music as a weapon against iPod users. WE, as consumers, are being manipulated.

Posted by Joshdude in Long Beach, CA on August 4, 2005 at 1:51 PM (PDT)

7

im one of those people that likes to own tangible cds as well as have them on my computer, so it is pretty bunk, all this copy protected jazz. but i think im in the clear because 99.99 percent of the music i listen to is from before 1985 anyways raspberry

Posted by nick benko on August 4, 2005 at 1:55 PM (PDT)

8

I’ve ripped my Foo Fighters’ CD—and the DMB and Bruce Springsteen copy-protected CDs, among others—into iTunes on all three of my Macs and dumped all the songs to both my iPods.  No problem at all.  And I know plenty of people who’ve done the same thing.

So if Sony is trying to battle the iPod—and I don’t think they are—they’re not doing a particularly good job.

Posted by Chad Hermann on August 4, 2005 at 1:59 PM (PDT)

9

i tried to rip the new foo using itunes 4.9 and windows 2k, and even after disabling the autorun feature on the disc(s) my music files had skips and blips and were virtually unlistenable. i like to own the cd before importing to itunes as well (something physical as a backup to the digital info), but this drm alienates me as a consumer, and although itunes wants me to download their content, i’d rather rip from a cd…therefore i have no good way to listen to their new music…
i would love to just get a mac to remedy that solution, but i don’t expect to switch hardware just to listen to music i should be able to listen to in the first place.
frustrating…

Posted by Kevin on August 4, 2005 at 2:01 PM (PDT)

10

Autorun ends up installing a little application that performs all of the regulation on copy and ripping, etc.  If you insert the CD while holding down the Shift key on a PC, you will bypass autorun, but if you forget, the app will be installed and subsequent attempts to rip the CD will be scrambled as the app is already installed.

Posted by Steve on August 4, 2005 at 2:13 PM (PDT)

11

yeah, thanks steve, i just read the princeton paper…perhaps if i delete the driver (what’s the best way to do this for all of us that have been duped) and then re-insert the cd while holding shift, i could -just maybe- listen to the music that i purchased on my ipod…

Posted by Kevin on August 4, 2005 at 2:19 PM (PDT)

12

kevin, check out the link i posted.  it explains what to do.

chad, anyone with a windows pc will not be able to rip the music unless they
a) have autorun disabled
b) go through the process of removing the service after autorun has ran.

a majoirty of ipod owners are windows users, so they are getting through.  but in the end, copy protection hurts the people who buy the cd and the piracy continues without a flinch.

Posted by z22 on August 4, 2005 at 2:20 PM (PDT)

13

X&Y by Coldplay wouldn’t work on my ipod, so i just downloaded through bittorrent. Just proves that copy protection only hurts the consumers instead of the downloaders.

Posted by Landon on August 4, 2005 at 2:43 PM (PDT)

14

Until the major record companies get their brains straight I won’t buy their CDs.  I will still by indie CDs but thats it!  I have had it with all the bs these major record companies are bringing to the table.

Iggy :(

Posted by TheIguana in Calgary, Alberta, Prarires, Canada, North America, on August 4, 2005 at 3:11 PM (PDT)

15

It’s not just the physical CD aspect that make people wary of buying albums from iTMS instead; it’s the fact that then you only have compressed versions of the music, not the high quality from the actual CD.

Posted by Whyren in Midwest on August 4, 2005 at 3:31 PM (PDT)

16

to get around cd protection:

set up audio hijack to hijack quick time player…
open the cd with quick time player…
record songs (aiff format), convert with itunes.

a little bit of a pain, but it works.

Posted by rick19 on August 4, 2005 at 4:19 PM (PDT)

17

If you did NOT disable autorun and ripped the songs with the copy protection like I did, here’s what you do:

1) Burn the songs onto a blank CD.
2) Rip songs directly to iTunes without protection.

Granted, it will require a blank CD everytime (that’s what I’ve done for a few CDs, including DMB, Velvet Revolver, KINGS OF LEON!), but it’s an easy way to get around it.

Posted by Christopher on August 4, 2005 at 4:22 PM (PDT)

18

Personally I think someone should sue the record companies for putting a piece of software on my computer without my permission. I don’t want their software, and since it installs without my permission, it’s on the likes of a virus, spyware/adware, and heck, they could just start putting programs on there to delete every MP3 on the computer.  Maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned that, the record companies will probably do that next.

Posted by Michael on August 4, 2005 at 5:01 PM (PDT)

19

Just disable autorun, it’s so much easier then any other ‘workaround’.

Posted by pointfour on August 4, 2005 at 5:10 PM (PDT)

20

Oddly enough I never have issues ripping these CDs on my mac - but they don’t play in my VW factory cd player.  Is anyone testing these things?

Posted by jblakeh1 on August 4, 2005 at 5:31 PM (PDT)

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