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Creative CEO says Zen NX “better looking” than iPod

At a press briefing, Creative’s CEO, Sim Wong Hoo said the Nomad Zen NX is “better looking” than the iPod. Am I the only one here who thinks that they copied the iPod’s design?

“Unveiling the company’s new strategy yesterday at a briefing on its financial results, Mr Sim said it has successfully made inroads into the PDE market with its Nomad line of MP3 players.

Holding up one of its latest models - the Nomad Jukebox Zen - he proudly declared the slim, silver aluminium pocket-sized device was ‘better looking’ than rival Apple Computer’s pert but pricier iPod.”

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41

Well Jane.  I need something to back me up?  How about Industry Standards? 

Burden of proof lies elsewhere as mentioned before.  The 50-80% difference claim is quite a statement wouldn’t you think?

Are you ready to back that up as well?  :)

..... no, I didnt think so

Posted by Engine on August 8, 2003 at 5:24 PM (CDT)

42

Industry Standards?

The last refuge of scoundrels,socialists,and Microserfs.

Show me the money!

You are too dumb to know how dumb you sound. Go buy a Xen.

Posted by Apple][ Forever on August 8, 2003 at 5:44 PM (CDT)

43

LOL,

This is quite the fun thread.

FW400 -> 400Mbps
USB2 -> 480Mbps

Tests will show differences in performance under various conditions, it is true.

But an edge of 50-80% for FW400?  don’t make me laugh.  Engine is right, he has nothing to prove.  Whoever makes such a claim needs to prove otherwise…but it is impossible because it is simply not true.

For those of you defending this point of view you must be in one of these categories:

- Ignorant
- Apple fanatic who thinks that anything Apple related is best in show.  In this case you are even willing to go as far as supporting such a ridiculous claim.  So I guess you automatically fit the above category as well.

iPod is a WONDERFUL product.  But you fanatics make me sick with your blind faith.

Posted by AMDmaniac on August 8, 2003 at 6:08 PM (CDT)

44

Microserfs?  ROFL, that’s a new one.

Apple ][ Forever must be some brainwashed kid locked up inside a basement somewhere in the middle of nowhere waiting for World War III

Posted by Mishkin on August 8, 2003 at 6:10 PM (CDT)

45

I know Microserfs! Cool book!

 


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060987049/meehawl-20

Posted by meehawl on August 8, 2003 at 6:34 PM (CDT)

46

480Mbit/s… 400Mbit/s… these are useless to me and probably to you. To gauge how these things work for real you must think in terms of

Posted by Tech Gurl on August 8, 2003 at 6:48 PM (CDT)

47

Hey Tech Gurl!

Gotta love people who feel the need of showing whatever little knowledge they have anonymously to people who don’t even care about it.

Get a life

Posted by Parsifal on August 8, 2003 at 7:42 PM (CDT)

48

TechTV’s Firewire vs. USB 2.0 comparison:

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/supergeek/story/0,24330,3393571,00.html

Digit Life’s article:

http://www.digit-life.com/articles/usb20vsfirewire/

Posted by Helly on August 8, 2003 at 8:57 PM (CDT)

49

Gee, I’m impressed, so many techies in full spouting mode….it’s always fun in the threads…
Anyways, since I have an informed and “capable” audience, here’s a question: is there any reason why no-one has come up with a hack for OTG playlists on the 1G/2G’s? Yes, that turd just floated up again…
I’m totally serious, I’m not a programmer so I would like a half-way serious answer…

Posted by disgruntled... on August 8, 2003 at 9:21 PM (CDT)

50

Is there a pci card that has usb 2.0 and firewire 800 on it? if there is please they me where.

Posted by BigByrd in US on August 8, 2003 at 9:29 PM (CDT)

51

Hmmm….

Tech Gurl = DontBelieveTheHype?

You gave yourself away in that message. 

Posting under 2 different aliases?

How sad…..

Posted by Beastie on August 8, 2003 at 11:22 PM (CDT)

52

I’m still waiting for answers…

Posted by disgruntled... on August 9, 2003 at 7:48 AM (CDT)

53

Did anyone actually read any of the real world tests done by techtv and other sources?

I don’t understand how people are continuing to come to USB 2.0’s defense in this situation based on the advertised max bandwidth of 480 mbps compared to Apple’s advertised max of 400…

Engine, and the others… you are flaming people because they claimed that firewire was 50% to 80% faster… saying that they have the burden of proof…  is this not proof enough?

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/supergeek/jump/0,24331,3393574,00.html

The figures 480 and 400 are numbers conjured up by marketing people to sell products obviously… in the real world, rarely do things reach those optimal figures…

What people here have been trying to show you are the REAL WORLD results that people have done… from reputable sources as well…

from the techtv article, “While USB 2.0 may not be the ultimate hard drive interface, its ability to read at a rate of 6MB per second matches the maximum write speed of a 40x CD recorder. Focusing on the MP3 transfer rates (Test 2), FireWire offers a significant advantage over USB 2.0, besting it by nearly 48 percent in write speeds and over 70 percent in read speeds”

There you have it. In the precise application that we are concerned about (transferring mp3s to an external harddrive/player) TechTV found that there was a performance advantage for Firewire around 70%....

so to all of you who go on and trust the 480 mbps rating over the 400 rating of FW, maybe you’re a lost cause… but for the people who don’t just buy into Intel’s marketing hype about USB 2.0… the claims of higher performance from FW400 are substantiated.

Posted by Benson Leung on August 9, 2003 at 10:38 AM (CDT)

54

There we go…..another Apple fanatic who needs to prove some point so he does not feel bad belonging to the raging minority.

It is Apple vs. the WORLD!  I bet Apple fanatics do not live long lives.  The everyday stress must be unbearable.

Go back to your cute little unflexible and useless computers…....and photoshop of course.  :)

Remember…...you are nothing but a needle in a haystack….that tells you how good your products are….nobosy wants them

Posted by BeBe on August 9, 2003 at 11:16 AM (CDT)

55

Hey Benson….

Are you saying that 480Mbps and 400Mbps are numbers conjured up by marketing people?

Just like U160SCSI, U320 SCSI for example?

So, we should just throw everything out the window?

What an ignorant comment you fool.  Don’t try getting involved in this discussion because you obviously know nothing.

 

Posted by Guru on August 9, 2003 at 11:25 AM (CDT)

56

It is really funny to see all this ‘blind faith’ fighting over two machines. I bought an IPOD 30gb. Although I love it and certainly dont believe the Nomad is as sleek as the IPOD, the ipod is no match whatsoever to the Zen NX as far as sound quality and battery life go. Add to it, the zen nx has a replaceable battery, which is an amazing advantage. The zen also has 14 hours battery life which beats my ipods ‘8 hour’ hands down. Do not forget these batteries will start to lose their capacity over time and I really wish the IPOD had a removeable battery. I would definitely keep my IPOD over the Zen- however, dont bash the Zen just coz u love the IPOD… The IPOD has a lot of faults which its slim and sleek design cannot mask.

Posted by chniks on August 9, 2003 at 3:05 PM (CDT)

57

Like the lack of OTG playlists for 1G/2G ipods…

Posted by disgruntled... on August 9, 2003 at 5:52 PM (CDT)

58

Oh ye Gentlemen of little faith - one of the 1st things you should learn is never to ask a Gurl her age, and the 2nd thing you should do is never by mistake imply that she is one and the same to a person who admits she was working in the 1970s on something called “Atari SIO”. That’s just harsh. Courtney Love is my personal Goddess and that’s about as far as I’ll go to clarify my age. I am not the Hype Gurl but I do agree with her and a number of other people here who KNOW THEIR STUFF that blase throughput measurements in the same ballpark are meaningless when you are dealing with a multi-device bus under contention with a multitasking O/S. USB 2.0 can barely keep up with the current IEEE 1394 standard and in a few years its potential bandwidth will double and then double again. You people are sad.

Posted by Tech Gurl on August 11, 2003 at 11:53 AM (CDT)

59

disgruntled—its not difficult to do The Rockbox has added awesome playlists to the Archos and compared to the iPod the hardware their and memory is pathetec.

No the only reason their are no playlists on 1G2G iPods is so Apple can screw us for an upgrade—- same as they do with super high battery and hard disk replacement prices.

http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html

iPod needs user-developed operating system better than Rockbox. With better hadrware we would have really cool handhelds instead of bad restrictions.

Posted by 1G/2G Playlists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on August 11, 2003 at 12:04 PM (CDT)

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“Don’t be confused by the rated speeds you see emblazoned across USB 2.0 and FireWire product boxes. Despite USB 2.0’s 80 Kbps speed advantage over FireWire, our testing showed that the additional overhead of USB 2.0 made it slower than FireWire. For high-bandwidth devices such as external hard drives, the difference was as high as 70 percent.”

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/supergeek/story/0,24330,3393571,00.html

Posted by USB v FW on August 11, 2003 at 12:08 PM (CDT)

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