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Did the iPod convert you to Mac? Someone wants to know…

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By Jeremy Horwitz

Editor-in-Chief, iLounge
Published: Friday, March 11, 2005
News Categories: Apple

If your iPod helped convince you to join the Mac community, .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) wants to hear from you. He wrote iLounge with the following request, and we’d love to help him out:

“I am currently working on a project for Apple.

We are looking to speak with people who have come to Mac through owning an iPod. These are people who have been or currently are PC users; they own an iPod and love it so much that they’ve bought a Mac.

Specifically we are looking for people between the ages of 14-35…young professionals, parents, students/etc…approachable, real people. I would like to speak with anyone who fits this description.”

All you need to do, he explains, is send him a quick e-mail .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) with your name and contact information. While you’re welcome to include a brief version of your story, there’s no need to do so.

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1

Funny, the iPod drove me away from Apple.  Still devoted to my iPod, hate the company that makes it.

I don’t think Mr. Rice wants to hear that though.  wink

Posted by stark23x on March 11, 2005 at 11:21 AM (PDT)

2

Gee, I’d be happy to share my story, but I guess being over 35 I no longer qualify as “real people”. :(

Why the silly age specification??

Posted by Fangorn in Texas on March 11, 2005 at 11:29 AM (PDT)

3

Why the silly age specification?

Demographics. Marketing.

However, as far as selling iPods, I imagine the over 35 crowd is exremely under utilized. All of my coworkers and friends that age want one, ask me about mine, and have money to spend. However, most don’t seem to realize how much they’d actually use it, or understand the convenience/ coolness of having your entire music collection with you at all times. While I’m of course generalizing here, these are just my observations of the people that I see and interact with.

Posted by jbn74sb on March 11, 2005 at 11:58 AM (PDT)

4

Add another one to the list of people who will NOT switch as a result of buying an iPod.

I’m hooked on the iPod, but the single-mindedness of Apple for not allowing the user the ability to choose how he wants his files named (as you can in every other jukebox) made me think that when you switch to Apple it’s their way or the highway and that doesn’t sit well with me.

No need for anyone to flame me.  Yes, I know this may be a trivial reason for not switching, but it’s also just as easy a thing for Apple to fix.  Not just for me, but for many others who feel the same way.

And, it’s not just about the file naming.  Apple seems intent on having things done their way or no way at all.  I remember a time when I bought a 2nd gen iPod that was bundled with MusicMatch.  It worked fine with MusicMatch, but later when iTunes for Widnows was released and I had a problem with iTunes, Apple’s tech support told me to uninstall MusicMatch because it was supposedly causing the problem with iTunes.  Support wanted me to just give up a program I had been using for years and simply do it their way.

Owning an iPod has lead me to believe that Apple’s POV truly is their way, or no way.

Posted by Talking Madness in Los Angeles on March 11, 2005 at 12:01 PM (PDT)

5

I have to ask what you mean by not being able to rename files? Are talking about formats or tags?

Posted by graphicgeek in Utica, NY on March 11, 2005 at 12:17 PM (PDT)

6

Seeing as I “switched” at 45 they probably don’t want to talk to me either….:o(

Posted by MadPict in UK on March 11, 2005 at 12:50 PM (PDT)

7

I don’t get the “naming” issue either.  What the heck?

And people, it’s all about demographics.  It’s not ageism.  Perhaps they’ve managed to find people in the other age brackets already.

I switched after owning an iPod to a 12” Powerbook, so I sent a mail to them…

Posted by adimiron in NY on March 11, 2005 at 12:58 PM (PDT)

8

I as well, do not understand what you mean by not being able to rename. You can easily rename your tracks.

Explained here (but with renaming disc track number but you get the idea)
http://www.ipodlounge.com/articles_more.php?id=6469_0_8_0_C

Posted by bamboozledmind on March 11, 2005 at 1:05 PM (PDT)

9

GraphicGeek-

I mean being able to make the “artist name” and “album title” part of the file name as you rip in iTunes.

Posted by Talking Madness in Los Angeles on March 11, 2005 at 1:07 PM (PDT)

10

IMO, it’s really stupid (as jbn74sb pointed out) to exclude the 35+ age group from these marketing exercises. I’m in my mid-40s. My teenage years were in the 70s. That means folks who are now in their 50s were teens in the 60s.

The 60s - you know, Beatles, Stones, Dylan, etc. The decade that music became VERY important to young people (20s, teens, even pre-teens like me) of the time. These folks are now in their 40s, 50s, even early 60s. And for many of these people, music is STILL important. Yes, most of us have been using computers for a couple of decades at least. AND we have lots of disposable income.

If I were Steve Jobs, and found my marketers ignoring this important demographic, they’d be looking for new jobs (pun not intended).

Posted by Fangorn in Texas on March 11, 2005 at 1:07 PM (PDT)

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....approachable, real people

?

As Apple’s ‘Switch’ questionnaire has the age groupings of 36 - 56+ maybe they have had more than enough of us ‘oldie’ switchers respond!

Posted by MadPict in UK on March 11, 2005 at 1:08 PM (PDT)

12

Geez people… get over it.  Move on. 

Posted by apple juice in USA on March 11, 2005 at 1:14 PM (PDT)

13

Sent

Posted by AppleFreak on March 11, 2005 at 1:17 PM (PDT)

14

fangorn,

I’m 15 and I like the Beatles, Barry Manilow, Beach Boys, etc. I know I’m one werid 15 year old, ha.

It’s funny though I like anything from classical to rap. Just depends in the mood I am in. My friends think I’m weird to like classical, heh.

Posted by AppleFreak on March 11, 2005 at 1:19 PM (PDT)

15

It would be so easy to tap into the 35+ market.

Take a couple of age appropriate icons, show them sitting on a plane or driving their car listening to some music from the 60’s or 70’s, and have them briefly say how easy it is to get your music onto an iPod, and how easy they are to use.

I’m not quite to that age group, but can picture an ad campaign with Phil Jackson, Bill Clinton, etc., and/or some musicians from that time frame.

Posted by jbn74sb on March 11, 2005 at 1:36 PM (PDT)

16

I’m not saying you can’t hate itunes or the ipod but I’m still trying to guess why anyone would want the artist-song name in one box versus the correct boxes that they belong in?

Maybe it’s a PC user thing but I cannot see why anyone would want that. If I copy in a file called SINGER-SONG, that how it appears in itunes unless someone has changed it in the mp3 info ... if I rip a song called SINGER-SONG, I get a mp3 file called SINGER-SONG.mp3 and I can change both the actual file or the itunes name of it to anything else if I choose including two completely names so I’m confused as to why that guy can’t? (never mind wanting to?)

There are also many auto settings for ‘normal’ users that advanced users can ignore or change - for instance, all my files are on two external HHD and not in the itunes folder and itunes works fine ...

as for the advertising, it’s about how young the ipod makes you feel - the people in the viagra ads don’t look like Abe Vigoda.

Posted by jbelkin on March 11, 2005 at 4:14 PM (PDT)

17

I can’t remember the last time I cared at all about what a particular MP3’s file name is.  All I ever pay attention to is the ID3 metadata, which iTunes has made very, very easy to update and maintain.

I guess I don’t understand the problem.  Why do I care about the file structure of my collection?

Posted by Lee Gibson on March 11, 2005 at 5:07 PM (PDT)

18

Sometimes it’s nice to take a simple, integrated system, and complicate it until it no longer works well. Apple needs to learn that. Until then, Microsoft is the better choice. wink

Posted by Nagromme on March 11, 2005 at 11:13 PM (PDT)

19

Having finally figured out what the “file-naming” problem was, I think it’s a really trivial issue, and you’re reading way too deeply into what it portends for using a Mac computer.

At best, it’s just a useful feature that could be included in a future version of iTunes. If you’re interested in having that happen, then why don’t you email the Apple guy anyway and suggest it?

Posted by Alex S. in East Coast on March 12, 2005 at 8:21 AM (PDT)

20

Has anyone read anandtech’s review of the Mac OS? If any site is committed to the PC, that one is, but they came to the inevitable conclusion that OS X is superior to XP. I don’t quite understand what Talking Madness is talking about. First of all, he wants to use MusicMatch instead of iTunes, and then tries to use iTunes, but complains because MusicMatch is causing problems with iTunes. If you want to use MusicMatch, why not delete iTunes? Just one illogical post after another.

Posted by Questioner in New York on March 12, 2005 at 12:20 PM (PDT)

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