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Forbes: iTunes phone could limit storage to 25 songs

Forbes is reporting that at least one of the upcoming Motorola iTunes phones is “likely to underwhelm analysts and Apple fans” because of a 25-song storage cap.

“A person who has seen a version of the phone says it was designed to accommodate just 25 songs, which would be ‘sideloaded’ from a user’s computer using iTunes,” the report says. “The phone was equipped with a 128MB Sandisk TransFlash memory card—just one-quarter the capacity of Apple’s smallest iPod, the 512MB shuffle.”

“While it should be possible to swap out the memory card on the new iTunes phone for one with more capacity, the person who has seen the handset says the phone’s software appears to artificially cap song storage at 25 songs, regardless of how much memory the phone has,” Forbes reports.

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I’ll be pretty dissappointed if the 7th is all about an itunes phone and I won’t tell you HOW disappointed if said phone only holds 25 songs at a time… f that.

Posted by puckles on August 30, 2005 at 10:21 PM (CDT)


If this is the case, then their marketing and P.R. people need to be fired TODAY.  You don’t put out a press release saying the 1000 songs changed the world and then release a device with a 25 song limit.  That’s just f—-ing dumb!!!

Posted by Frank Z on August 30, 2005 at 11:21 PM (CDT)


Why can’t apple just surprise us without us speculating. I would rather enjoy waking up one morning and being completly surprised about a product not having any idea before. It would save all of us so much time.

Posted by andy on August 30, 2005 at 11:40 PM (CDT)


Well, I guess they don’t want to cannibalize shuffle sales.
Andy, didn’t apple surprise people with the mighty mouse?

Posted by bahubeshi on August 30, 2005 at 11:42 PM (CDT)


I was surprised by Mighty Mouse for two reasons: 1) it slipped past AppleInsider, 2) I still haven’t heard of any truly effective way to clean the rollball.

I’m not surprised by this. In fact, I expected it. I remember Jobs’ exact, and very careful words at a recent Moto expo (heh), “...give cellphone users a TASTE of the iPod experience…” I expected the iPod equivalent of a shampoo sampler. 25 songs actually exceeds my expectations by 20 songs or so…

Posted by jdbartlett on August 31, 2005 at 1:31 AM (CDT)


I’m looking past this initial phone.  This announcement is going to be that iTunes is on a Motorola phone; that’s it, nothing more.  This is why the song capacity is so limited.  It’s not an APPLE CELL PHONE. 

When Apple finally releases it’s own cell phone, it’ll be much like any other iPod in terms of capacity.

Posted by schiano on August 31, 2005 at 3:52 AM (CDT)


they better not brand it an ipod product, just itunes phone.  The ipod has always been about storing a library of songs, even the shuffle barely deserves the ipod name(not a shuffle hater, I own one).

Posted by enigma on August 31, 2005 at 4:53 AM (CDT)


How smart is that with all the new combined phones coming, as the Sony Ericsson W800i? iTunes or not, a 128MB cap is not at all of interest…and with 1GB or more on the new phones the destiny of the iPod will be the drawer.
I have two kids in my household that was tired of waiting and opted for the W800i and the iPod Minis are collecting dust…

Posted by Getor on August 31, 2005 at 5:38 AM (CDT)


And keep in mind, it’s only going to be sold through one cellular carrier (if the rumours are true).  That, right there, limits the market.

Posted by zyzyzyzyzyzyx on August 31, 2005 at 10:22 AM (CDT)


Here’s a few thoughts…

If there’s only 25 songs, I would suspect this has to due with either Motorola or Cingular’s intrusion, not Apple’s.  If you’re Apple, you want to be able for a person to download as many songs as they’d like from iTMS. 

Also - perhaps the battery life of the phone is only good for 25 songs…

Remember, this is a Phone with some iPod functionality, not an iPod that can be used as a phone. 

Anyways, I think the announcement will include new iPods, perhaps we’ll get color screen mini’s :)  That would make me happier than a phone.

Posted by billy bob montgomery on August 31, 2005 at 10:55 AM (CDT)


“1000 songs in your pocket changed everything. Here we go again. 25 songs in your pocket, then call your friends since your out of music to listen to

Posted by skw on August 31, 2005 at 11:37 AM (CDT)


Should be “you’re” but I can’t go back and edit. sorry folks.

Posted by skw on August 31, 2005 at 11:38 AM (CDT)


bbc is reporting that the phone will have 512mb and 1gb versions.

Posted by jm on August 31, 2005 at 1:06 PM (CDT)


bbc is reporting that the phone will have 512mb and 1gb versions.

But Forbes is reporting that there’s a software cap on the number of songs, regardless of available memory, which according to Forbes is in the form of a removable flash card.

Posted by flatline response on August 31, 2005 at 1:45 PM (CDT)


Posted by lovepoke on August 31, 2005 at 1:56 PM (CDT)


Remeber what Jobs said about flash iPods at first? I think Apple just wants to saturate whatever market it can and cell phones makes sense. Actually since my 3G iPod died two weeks ago I’m hoping for a video iPod or at least an 80GB.

Who cares about an iPod phone?

Posted by MD on August 31, 2005 at 2:25 PM (CDT)


Why get an iPod phone when you can get 25 iPod Fleas?  ROFL!

Posted by Phoenixfury on August 31, 2005 at 2:35 PM (CDT)


to elaborate, the bbc is reporting that there will be 512mb and 1gb models, which hold 120 and 240 songs, respectively.

Posted by jm on August 31, 2005 at 7:18 PM (CDT)


The software cap, if it’s real, is a convenient and dirty way for the carrier, in this case Cingular, to get a user to buy additional songs through the air. If you can only sideload 25 songs off of a PC or Mac onto the card, then to get more you have no choice but to buy them through the cell carrier.

Unfortunately it makes perfect sense, because what other financial incentive would Cingular have to offer up an iPod phone?  Simply to sell phones, when their revenue per customer is on the downslide?  No, for them, like it is for Verizon, Sprint and all the rest here and abroad, it’s all about selling another service, this time music and at a price that probably isn’t going to be pretty.

Posted by flatline response on September 1, 2005 at 12:40 AM (CDT)

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