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FOXNews: The Beatles Sue Apple Computers Over IPod, ITunes

“The inevitable has happened: The Beatles have sued Steve Jobs over Apple iTunes and the Apple iPod—at least the band’s company, Apple Corps., has sued Apple Computers. [...]

When Apple Computers first came into existence, the Beatles’ lawyers sued—and won—over the use of the corporate name. The Fab Four, it was widely known, already had their own company called Apple Corps. (Ironically, Jobs admitted to naming his company as a tribute to the Beatles.) The result of the suit was a huge cash settlement and a promise that the Apple logo and name would only be used for computers—and never for a music company.”

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21

Last time I checked an apple was a fruit. Can you copyrite the name of a fruit? I just looked up Apple in the national Yellow Pages and found 6118 results. What about Apple Motors in Texas? Apple Academy in MN? I think they could have made an argument not to sign that agreement.

Posted by farcast on September 12, 2003 at 6:17 AM (PDT)

22

“Can you copyrite the name of a fruit?”

With a good lawyer you can probably copyright the word ‘the’

Posted by Xab on September 12, 2003 at 8:23 AM (PDT)

23

tombertram, you have problems…

Posted by Jon in Seattle, WA on September 12, 2003 at 9:45 AM (PDT)

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If Apple had such problems with the Beatles regarding their name, they definitely should have changed it and all would be alright.  They would have cut all ties with the Beatles.  But they didn’t…  That’s a shame.

But the fact is, Apple has sold over 1,000,000 Ipods in under a year, which means that figure represents roughly the same amount of people who own them.

This is an important fact, because Apple has produced the best digital music player on the globe, created a massive following and a household name with the Ipod, and have stirred up a frenzy by opening up the Apple Music Store where people can affordably and legally purchase music of all kinds… which translates into serious devotion of the masses, including many big screen celebrities and musicians… which means that the Beatles and their lawyers aren’t just taking on Apple Computer, but hundreds of thousands of extremely loyal followers all around the world.  Do the Beatles and their lawyers plan to take on the whole world by attempting to put to an end something technologically fantastic that Apple has created and that so many people all around the world have grown to love and admire?

I only say that because if this lawsuit means that Apple will have to discontinue producing the Ipod or shut down the Apple music store, or do away with iTunes, the Beatles are going to have close to a million people (and growing) around the world pissed off at them.  People are so passionate about this technology and their music and their rights, that depending on how this lawsuit affects Apple, it could easily start a war.  It’s been said before that technology is much like religion: it’s often the basis for wars.  People love their technology and are beyond passionate about it - especially when it’s mixed with music.


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Posted by Z on September 12, 2003 at 12:39 PM (PDT)

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The Beatles better be very careful about how they tread here.  It would be one thing if Apple were just beginning with the Ipods.  But Ipods are now in the hands of too many people, and too entrenched in peoples’ lives to take it all away from them.  It’s now become a status symbol, not just among the masses in general, but now among celebrities, too, which in turn affect the masses even more.  The Beatles will suffer from this for a long time to come if they don’t tread very carefully.  People from around the world will attack the Beatles on any level they can just out of spite if this lawsuit brings an end to what it is people have come to love so much.

That sounds crazy, but mark my words, it’s not.  This will come back and bite the Beatles in the ###.  They better watch themselves.  I like Beatles music, but I don’t love it more than my Ipod, or my ability to browse, buy, and download music conveniently and legally, and then store ALL of my music on a sleek, sexy device that has become nothing short of a status symbol.

Apple Corp.  What the grunt is that anyway?

Apple should have changed their name it seems.  But as far as the Ipods are concerned, it’s too late for the Beatles to do anything about that.  I understand that they want to protect their rights, but if the Beatles aren’t reasonable here, they’ll lose.

Posted by Z on September 12, 2003 at 12:40 PM (PDT)

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Z, you make some good point, but I doubt the Beatles legal wants to do away with iTunes or the iPod.  This will most likely be settled with some kind of financial agreement in the form of lum sum or royalty payments.

Posted by Albert on September 12, 2003 at 1:44 PM (PDT)

27

Perhaps it’d be smart, if Apple just spun off anything music related (hardware, software and store) into a separate business with a different name (Perhaps Ringo, for the Japanese word for apple? wink

Seriously, though.. that company is going to leech them long after the last Beatle is dead, so they need to enter some cheat codes.

Posted by Mang on September 12, 2003 at 2:07 PM (PDT)

28

Very well said Z….
but the fact is that Steve and company really don’t have a legal leg to stand on. He MUST have expected this, some deal is going to be worked out to keep everyone happy…
And as for tombertram and the other zealots, who’s your dealer? Tell him you want the good ####, not the borax you’re obviously smoking…

Posted by boogie_doggie on September 12, 2003 at 3:04 PM (PDT)

29

Do you think the VW “Beatle”/iPod promotion had anything to do with this?  I never made the connection before, but it’s almost as if Apple computers was trying to push the proverbial envelope a bit.

Posted by Jamvan in Minnesota on September 12, 2003 at 5:30 PM (PDT)

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...one more thing.  I just tried to go to [url=http://www.thebeatles.com]http://www.thebeatles.com[/url] and Safari has a bit of trouble accessing the site.  I get the “The Beatles Anthology” and when you click on it, the screen flashes and goes back to the main screen.  Coincidence?

Posted by Jamvan in Minnesota on September 12, 2003 at 5:39 PM (PDT)

31

“Shame noone will remember the Beatles for nearly as long as Apple will be remembered and will survive for.”

..heh

I assume that this comment was tongue-in-cheek?

If not, you are obviously a fool smile

Posted by Zack on February 25, 2004 at 10:27 AM (PDT)

32

####…didnt realize this post was 5 months old :o

Posted by zack on February 25, 2004 at 10:29 AM (PDT)

33

Well, it does say copyright Apple Computer Corp, but isn’t it the *iTunes* music store, not the *Apple* music store? Just an observation.

Posted by Lynne on February 25, 2004 at 10:43 AM (PDT)

34

“Shame noone will remember the Beatles for nearly as long as Apple will be remembered and will survive for. HA!”

Here’s a cookie. That was by far the dumbest comment I’ve ever read.

Posted by Dasein on February 25, 2004 at 11:18 AM (PDT)

35

My wife is suing Apple over the iPod too because she thinks the touch-scroll wheel looks like her nipple.

Posted by Phil McCrackin on February 25, 2004 at 11:24 AM (PDT)

36

1. you can bet that if the remaining Beatles thought this suit to be silly, they’d tell their lawyers to back off.
2. just because they’re suing, doesn’t mean they feel they’re right - they do so to discourage, other more blatent ripoffs of their name
3. in fact, I bet they lose - the iPod is a computer, iTunes is software and iTunes Music store is a retail outlet - Apple have not produced one drop of music and so have stayed true to the original agreement
4. Beatles forgotten - you’re not stupid - you’re high!

Posted by Daddo on February 25, 2004 at 11:28 AM (PDT)

37

Come on people get your facts straight.

Steve Jobs wasn’t at apple when the agreement was first signed saying that Apple comp. wouldn’t get involved in the music business.

second, Steve Jobs has never said that he picked the name Apple as a tribute to the Beatles. Another popular idea is that he named it apple after Newton and the apple that fell from the tree.

Last, The Beatles are much better known by people than Apple computers, and given their huge impact on music and entire generations of people they wont be forgotten any time soon.

Posted by ariza910 on February 25, 2004 at 11:31 AM (PDT)

38

If memory serves correctly, Apple Corps. pretty much admitted when this news first hit that they were doing it for the money, but I don’t think this case is going to be the slam dunk in Apple Corps’ favor that most seem to think.  Times have changed and the role of computers in music and other areas has changed as well.

Also, if I’m not mistaken, the last time Apple was sued by Apple Corps., it never went to court.  They settled.  So, to say somebody WON that case is misleading.

Posted by The Raven in USA on February 25, 2004 at 11:43 AM (PDT)

39

of course Paul Mcartney sued the other beatles , so this isn’t much of a stretch now is it?
They can all take a flying leap into a pile of s—-

Posted by bkush on February 25, 2004 at 2:48 PM (PDT)

40

Of course Paul had something to do with this. His money-grubbing propensities are legendary. You can’t trust anyone with a title. Where’s John when we need him?

Posted by Questioner on February 25, 2004 at 3:00 PM (PDT)

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