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the look good in tech whizz ‘s pics but he is right no power why pay

Posted by BIGP in Texas on July 14, 2004 at 6:23 AM (PDT)

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The Onstage has a sweet design and it charges your iPod!

Posted by Stylescraper on July 14, 2004 at 6:54 AM (PDT)

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Hey, its all about the sound quality, and thats what im waiting to ‘hear’

Posted by XanDaMan on July 14, 2004 at 7:44 AM (PDT)

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i would get the onstage instead since it double as a dock for my desk/night stand.  use it as a alarm clock.  or other.
the on tour doesn’t dock.  i guess the only point is speaker.

on stage all the way

Posted by tdb on July 14, 2004 at 8:59 AM (PDT)

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On Stage has less frequency responce than In Motion’s

Posted by YYWWVV in Cold Spring, NY on July 14, 2004 at 9:53 AM (PDT)

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Again to answer some questions:  The On Stage only requires the use of the headphone output and associated cable for the oldest iPod, the one without a connector at the base.  For all the other iPods the line level signal is taken from the base connector.  Of course other MP3 players have to use the inelegant cable.

The iPod is powered from an ac adapter, not the FW connection.

Posted by bc on July 14, 2004 at 10:08 AM (PDT)

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Correction: I should have said the On Stage is powered from an ac adapter, not the FW connection.  The iPod that is docked with On Stage can get its charging power from either FW (if the On Stage is plugged into a FW connection) or the On Stage supply;  the unit will automatically select the source with the higher voltage.

Posted by bc on July 14, 2004 at 10:34 AM (PDT)

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Regarding YYWWVV’s comment about frequency response:  has anyone seen actual data, or better yet, measurements, of the InMotion’s frequency response?  I couldn’t find anything on Altec’s website, other than their use of the “revolutionary MaxxBass,” which I understand basically fakes out the ear by inserting harmonic energy derived from the sensed fundamental frequency of the bass notes.

Posted by bc on July 14, 2004 at 3:07 PM (PDT)

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Additional comment: on the JBL website the mention at the bottom of “lithium” rechargeables is an error.  Lithium primary (non-rechargeable) AAA’s should be available in the Fall (AA’s are available now) and, at 1.5V/cell, should be usable, indeed should last for much longer than the recommended alkalines.  Current lithium-ion rechargeables are not available for general purchase “raw” (outside of a pack with protection electronics) because of the danger of fire and explosion if improperly used (that’s one of the reasons they are selaed inside your iPod); also, the nominal single-cell voltage is 3.7V.  One of them would be too low for the On Tour, and two of them would be too high.

Posted by bc on July 14, 2004 at 3:22 PM (PDT)

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Thanks bc—good info to hear!

Posted by Nagromme on July 14, 2004 at 6:01 PM (PDT)

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Specs on frequency response are basically meaningless when you want to compare sound quality.  About the only thing they’re useful for is measuring bass extension (i.e., how low it will go), but they tell you nothing about the *quality* of the bass or of any of the rest of it.  FR numbers are mostly marketing tripe.

Posted by SunByrne on July 14, 2004 at 7:02 PM (PDT)

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bc - there is a pdf you can download regarding the inMotion’s specs.  Here’s the link

http://www.alteclansing.com/downloads/US_INMOTION_SELL_SHEET.pdf

Posted by YYWWVV in Cold Spring, NY on July 15, 2004 at 6:37 AM (PDT)

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SunByrne

I totally agree - ears are the best measuring device, but the inMotions do go lower than the On Stage, and in small speakers ther lower the better - usually

Posted by YYWWVV in Cold Spring, NY on July 15, 2004 at 6:39 AM (PDT)

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Neither even come close to the inMotion speakers.

The donut on stage looks like a cyber hemroid pad. Am I right in believeing it’s not portable? also, the on tour doesn’t look like it has a dock.

Posted by Just browsing on July 15, 2004 at 11:13 AM (PDT)

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Neither one competes with InMotion directly.

The On Tour isn’t an iPod product, it’s portable speakers for ANY portable player. No dock.

The On Stage isn’t meant to travel—it’s meant to be a stylish universal charging/synching dock with speakers, suitable for all iPods.

Posted by Nagromme on July 15, 2004 at 1:27 PM (PDT)

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Thanks YY for the altec inMotion link.  They do claim 60 Hz response (without specifying the attenuation, which could be quite large).  But someone pointed out that, with the “MaxxBass” circuit, the device could take 60Hz in and put 120Hz and higher harmonics out.  I am going to try to get some measured data on both products just to satisfy curiosity.

Of course I agree the ears are the ultimate arbiters.

Posted by bc on July 15, 2004 at 3:17 PM (PDT)

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Still… No battery power is why I will choose inMotion instead of the OnStage… As someone pointed out: why have speakers this small and compact if I won’t be able to power them via batteries? Why not buy the Tivoli Stereo set when you’re at it if it’s looks you’re after? Actually when seeing them I was all for buying the OnStage instead of the inMotion but no battery power? Sorry, that’s a no go for “portable” speakers as far as I’m concerned. As a fancy “radio”/mini-stereo/clock” however… Only I can do that with the inMotion set as well.

Posted by blip on August 12, 2004 at 4:42 AM (PDT)

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i have the 1st generation 5GB iPod, will this work?

Posted by OGiPod on August 26, 2004 at 9:44 AM (PDT)

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It looks like B_SE is going to join the party, too.

http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=46982&sid=de9786fe959c5a59f6d593f0d44e0c9f

Posted by Yuka on September 18, 2004 at 11:23 PM (PDT)