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HP’s iPod to be released on Friday?

“Hoping to make a big bang in consumer electronics, Hewlett-Packard plans on Friday to unveil its long-awaited HP-branded iPod, along with its first televisions, an entertainment hub and the usual array of new printers and cameras, sources said.”

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Questioner: do you know what ubiquitous means? I don’t think so. The iPod doesn’t even have that much of a dominance in the existing market in spite of perception and it certainly is not *ubiquitous*. Wristwatches are ubiquitous, wallets are ubiquitous. DAPs of any brand are about as ubiquitous as three legged dogs. When you consider the size of the potential (and eventual) market versus Apple’s current sales, they are absolutely nothing.

While I’m amazed that Apple did enter a partnership with HP, it is definitely far more to Apple’s advantage than HP’s. You can take 100% of Apple’s global sales in everything and you’d be hitting a drop in the bucket of almost any one of HP’s markets. Whatever their reliability problems in desktops (which I understand to be more a product of people’s imagination at this point), the rest of their products have always been solid.

No, HP gains a nice way to put a carrot with their products. HP is all about tying extended systems together, e.g. PC, digicam, & photo printer, all pre-loaded and configured to make the process as easy and painless as possible. Since the iPod is *currently* the best and best selling DAP platform, HP can now really push their multimedia bundles and Apple gets customers “for free” out of the deal. Both parties benefit, but anyone who thinks that it’s HP getting the better end of the deal has their head firmly in their rear.

Posted by Code Monkey on August 27, 2004 at 6:25 AM (CDT)


“I use macs all the time. I hate them. ”
Why do you use them?

Gee this fits Einstein’s definition of insanity: “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Posted by Mirage on August 27, 2004 at 6:33 AM (CDT)


Heck, the real winner here may be Microsoft :)

They’re currently being buggered in Europe over their Media Player analogously to the way they were pursued for IE. With HP having such a large global market share, getting iTunes pre-installed on all HP comps gives MS a nice defense against accusations that they’re once again using monopoly power to “force” consumers into using their software.

Posted by Code Monkey on August 27, 2004 at 7:20 AM (CDT)


i think you all bruing up interesting points.  The link that was provided doesnt work.  Anyone know where I can see this thing?

Posted by robbiesan in Arlingotn, VA on August 27, 2004 at 7:33 AM (CDT)


“Apple went to HP. Jobs confirmed it. They wanted iTunes on a PC desktop.”

Everyone of my Windows PC have iTunes on it (right from Day one of the Windows iTunes availablitiy, I love it on my Mac and knew it rocked)

Why do they need HP for that? It’s free in apple.com and it comes with every iPod sold now. I’m sure most of those iPods get connected to windows machines.

Posted by Charlie Murphy on August 27, 2004 at 7:33 AM (CDT)


What universally licensed standard has Apple created? Apple has always behaved in anti-competitive ways, making the classic mistake of trying to keep everything locked up. Hence a 2 percent Mac share. Not licensing the Mac OS was one of the worst decisions in the history of American business. Apple did more to saddle the world with Windows than Gates did.

As for the “Einstein” quote, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”: where did he say that? A reference would be helpful since that quote is also attributed to other people, including Ben Franklin.

Whoever said it, having a spectacular product and refusing to license it—twice—would seem to fit the definition just fine.

Posted by Nicolas Martin on August 27, 2004 at 7:40 AM (CDT)


Nobody said that HP had better support than Apple; you overlooked the key word “if”. You also left out Consumer Reports qualification that goes with its rating of computer company support. They find that the computer industry as a whole provides very poor support.

Posted by Nicolas Martin on August 27, 2004 at 7:45 AM (CDT)


New HP iPods available at Buy.com - $279/$379 with free shipping. Use a coupon to save more:


Posted by Brad on August 27, 2004 at 7:57 AM (CDT)


Interstingly, while the HP site today lists the 40GB iPod at $399, Buy.com is already taking pre-orders for it at $379…

Posted by Weston on August 27, 2004 at 7:59 AM (CDT)


HP Cuts off nose to spite face…

Here’s an own goal if I ever saw one…

So the HP iPod is just a normal Apple iPod, bought from HP, it runs the same old software (iTunes). Now if HP are releasing a whole raft of new Media products, does anyone else find it amusing that their new “HP digital media receiver” will ‘find all your music on your network and yet it doesn’t seem to support AAC format


I wonder whether the song total specs they’ve used are just like Apples and assume 128bit AAC

I sense a product fimware update coming soon to a Media Center near you ;-)

Posted by SoloMalee on August 27, 2004 at 8:00 AM (CDT)


Hey forget all the talk about branding voodoo, what about HP Tatoos? Hoo ha!

I just took a look at HP’s website where the announcement is now posted, and the only thing I see there of note is a new item called HP Tattoos. It seems to be a special printable film that, coupled with album art exclusively available from HP’s website, allows you to customize your iPod’s case. It’s removable, too.

What do you all think?


Posted by Durandal on August 27, 2004 at 8:14 AM (CDT)


Now is also in the official e-stor of HP


the prices are the same of the apple iPod

Posted by dede on August 27, 2004 at 8:17 AM (CDT)


Nicholas - re: not liscening Mac OS leading to Apple’s market share. have a read of http://www.daringfireball.net
re: open standards, for years Apple has been a big backer of open standards. They boosted USB and Firewire into major use, 802.11 wireless, and OS X is based on open source Unix. And some of their own creations become standards - MPEG4 is based on Quicktime for instance. If you’re going to argue, get your facts straight first.

Posted by Nathan on August 27, 2004 at 8:24 AM (CDT)


I think all this really does is open up the market a little bit more. HP is obviously dolling out a ton of cash to be able to do this and not have to create its own product. It seems like winners all around. Apple tricks pc users intot hinking that they need top buy this one, but are propbbaly reaping a huge profit off of HP, even if HP does outsell Apple this year on ipods, I say Apple might have gotten the better end of the stick in the long run. Like dude from Israel said, a lot of people around the world are only familiar with pc products, I have a feeling that Apple’s name has to appear somewhere on the HP product.

Posted by robbiesan in Arlingotn, VA on August 27, 2004 at 8:36 AM (CDT)


Code Monkey,
I do know what “ubiquitous” means. On the streets of Manhattan, iPods are ubiquitous. Something about riding the subway and needing personal space. They truly are everywhere, at least in NY—maybe not in Topeka, KS.

Posted by Questioner on August 27, 2004 at 10:50 AM (CDT)


“Why do they need HP for that? It’s free in apple.com and it comes with every iPod sold now. I’m sure most of those iPods get connected to windows machines.”

Because the overwhelming majority of customers never download a single piece of software if something is already provided to them. Microsoft copies the UI/functions of Eudora, tosses in usenet support, and sticks OE on every desktop in the world. In short order most Usenet readers go under/go freeware public license & email clients go under or have to adopt adware support.

It happened with IE which destroyed Netscape.

Windows Media Player killed most of Real’s share (not that there’s anything wrong with that ;-) ) just by virtue of being on every desktop as soon as the customer hits ‘on’.

There is a huge precedent of examples of how software bundling is of huge importance for gaining market share.

Posted by Code Monkey on August 27, 2004 at 11:46 AM (CDT)

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