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iMac G5: ‘From the creators of iPod’

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By Dennis Lloyd

Publisher, iLounge
Published: Tuesday, August 31, 2004
News Categories: iPod

Larry Angell of MacMinute.com writes “In an obvious move to gain new Mac purchasers, Apple is heavily promoting the similarities between the iPod and the new iMac G5. The main tagline on Apple’s homepage says it best. “From the creators of iPod. The new iMac G5,” the page simply reads, showing an iPod and iMac side by side. It appears Apple is hoping that the cross-platform success of the iPod will help the company to convince Windows users to make their next computer purchase an iMac. ‘Just like the iPod redefined portable digital music players, the new iMac G5 redefines what users expect from a consumer desktop,’ said Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of worldwide product marketing.”

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21

Could be that People who’d say Windows Sux are forgetting that M$ has about as much control over what goes into your PC as it does about what you put on it.

Ofcouse Mac’s don’t crash! lol (yeah right!), becouse the Cult of Steve. Have your running your plain Vanilla Boxes! Lets see if Apple could hold up with Microsoft if they had to make OSX work over a nearly infinite number of PC Configurations!

When I think about this I find even more Respect for Microsoft that they can manage to run on almost any Ix86 compatable Computer.

Posted by Ichijoe on September 1, 2004 at 3:32 AM (PDT)

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$5.2 million for the big mac may be allot of money but it is ‘next to nothing’ compared to the number 1 earth simulator which cost $350 million.

Posted by mastif in UK on September 1, 2004 at 3:42 AM (PDT)

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And that’s the kind of next to nothing, that you or I will never have…

Gosh it must be nice to actuly sit there witha stright face and call $5,200,000.00(USD) ‘Next to nothing!’ When One Actualy has NOTHING AT ALL!

Posted by Ichijoe on September 1, 2004 at 4:06 AM (PDT)

24

So why don’t they make the stalk detachable and then this would also be a portable…

Posted by Stu Schwartz on September 1, 2004 at 4:24 AM (PDT)

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For anyone who is saying that the iMac is overpriced for what you get, I challenge you to go to another manufacturer and configure a comparable system and see how much it costs. In most cases you will end up with a system that is 100-200 more. The reason people think Apple has expensive computers is because they don’t offer a line of low end computers like a 500 dollar eMachine.

Posted by BigFil on September 1, 2004 at 4:24 AM (PDT)

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Yeah Like I said Apple is King of there Relm But, the PC Market has it’s pmpus Prices too. DELL, HP, Falcon Northwest, Ailenware. Etc…

But, unlike them and Unlike Apple I CAN BUILD A COMPAIABLE SYSTEM for 200-400 LESS!

Posted by Ichijoe on September 1, 2004 at 4:31 AM (PDT)

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Nice piece of hardware, very powerful.  Too expensive for its’ target market again though.  While it is true that the iPod is drawing people in to buy Macs, in my experience they’re all buying eMacs.  Now THAT is an accessible Mac.

Posted by liveinabin on September 1, 2004 at 4:47 AM (PDT)

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Its just UGLY, not in keeping with the G4 iMac or even the 3G ipod - apple is cheapening itself to gain more market share.

whats innovative about this, i was using an IBM P4 all-in-one about 3 years ago. It had a drop down CD/floppy and came in black. This is white with a slot in cd. wow!!

It actually looks like an eMac update not iMac.

Posted by Cubeoid on September 1, 2004 at 5:06 AM (PDT)

29

Now thats just semantics and who is to say that I don’t have $5m?

Posted by loGan on September 1, 2004 at 5:11 AM (PDT)

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Wow, another PC vs. Mac thread—on iPodlounge where it shouldn’t matter anyway.

I’ll say what I’ve been saying for years:

Megahertz on a Mac usually is double what the same number is in the PC world.

Yes, there are about 100 pieces of software per every 1 piece for the Mac, but 90% of it is crap. Even if you do absolutely need it, there is always Virtual PC that lets you run Windows XP on your Mac.

The only bad thing about the Mac is the gaming part. True, they use crummy cards and don’t have a lot of games—but then again, I use consoles for my games. Plus I don’t have to worry about viruses, my computer “freezing” up or having to take my computer in to a technician because with OS X, the thing pretty much fixes itself.

It all comes down to preference. If you like a completely customizable computer, get a PC. If you want something you can actually use with no hassle, buy a Mac.

Like the famous quote says:

“Never ask a man what sort of computer he has. If it’s a Mac, he’ll tell you. If not, why embarrass him?”    -Tom Clancy

Posted by narco in Burbank on September 1, 2004 at 5:42 AM (PDT)

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“Overpriced - Overdesigned - Incompatable with everything (That Matters!).”

um…you know not of what you speak.  In actuality, when you start adding in all the options that Macs include, they end up being very similarly priced - check out this link:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/36120.html

Also, what do you mean incompatible?  Most people use Office, and Office is available, fully compatible and actually, in some peoples opinion, better on the Mac.  Photoshop? Quark?  InDesign?  iTunes? Maya? ProTools? Avid?  All available on the Mac…

And what exactly is “overdesigned”?  It offers too many features, or you’d rather your computer looks like a yugo instead of a BMW?

These are the same old arguments that no longer apply.  If you really want to know why Macs have a market share of around 4%, you can read this excellent article:
http://daringfireball.net/2004/08/2004_wont_be_like_1984
you should also keep in mind that those numbers are based on current sales, and since Macs have a longer lifespan, their numbers will naturally be lower because people don’t upgrade as frequently, therefore there are less current sales, therefore the % is lower….

Posted by DomArchitect on September 1, 2004 at 5:48 AM (PDT)

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“I challenge you to go to another manufacturer and configure a comparable system and see how much it costs.”

Tablet PCs from any of a dozen manufacturers. Offers evertthing this new imac does, but are truely portable, lighter, and many can flip around and become regular notebooks or desktop machines.

Also, this all-in-one design is old news in the PC market:

http://www.eyegonomic.com/page.dsp?page=48

http://www.buympc.com/common/specifications/images/cl_aio_front_left.jpg

etc etc. Seriously, look in the back pages of some PC magazines, where the smaller, more innovative companies advertise. This pseudo-tablet design is at least three years old.

Posted by Tablet PCs on September 1, 2004 at 5:48 AM (PDT)

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“I challenge you to go to another manufacturer and configure a comparable system and see how much it costs. In most cases you will end up with a system that is 100-200 more.”

Dude, that’s easy.

Campus b50, $1,500
http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=21
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1625638,00.asp

This is an amazing rig, for an all-in price.

Posted by killer notebook on September 1, 2004 at 5:52 AM (PDT)

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i think it’s worth it. it’s a 17’ WIDE screen with high res. 80gb Sata. 600mhz bus speed. i just thinks it’s worth it. u can go for OEM provided u have e knowledge. but there are ppl who pay for what they want & like. to them, it’s a good deal. i think it looks great.

Posted by jm on September 1, 2004 at 5:54 AM (PDT)

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hey. you wanna know why there’s this pc vs mac thingy going on? coz those PC peepz own an ipod.

i mean if they ain mac users, why ipod in e 1st place?

Posted by jm on September 1, 2004 at 5:57 AM (PDT)

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“Dude, that’s easy.
This is an amazing rig, for an all-in price.”

Notice the thread you replied to!

it said comparable

1.7 Pentium vs 1.8 G5

i wonder who would win?

Posted by mastif in UK on September 1, 2004 at 6:45 AM (PDT)

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Why go OEM? when it’s so much more gratifying to build it yourself. There are alreay more then enough PowerMac G5 knock off Cases for you to build on!

As for Tech Support LOL don’t make me Laugh! :D
I only ever had to call Tech Support Twice in my entire life! Once to Cretive Labs becuse of missing Manuals and CD, and Once to Apple to get my brand new Stock Earbuds replaced (Buzzing on the Left side!) It seems to me Apple could use a chunk of the income for better Sample Testing of there Products!

I’m sorry but, I can’t see makeing the jump just for a DAP! OSX seems more advanced then XP Granted. But, Again Apple is a closed System ain’t it. Probably explains the infrequent crashing of Mac’s. where as Windows has to work on just about anything where Microsoft sets the Bar at. Given the PC Market thats a Hell of alot of non-standerd PC that it has to run on!

BTW The infrequent Crasing that you Macboyz are so proud to toot your horns on.
Well XP is quite stable too now. I can’t even recall the last time I had to reset due to a crash!

Posted by Ichijoe on September 1, 2004 at 6:53 AM (PDT)

38

I have a imac with the original design and it never crashed for the first year I owned it and rarly dose now even though it is 4 years old, it still is as powerful as some of the lowerclass PC machines on the market now.

Posted by WOLF MAN on September 1, 2004 at 7:09 AM (PDT)

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For the person throwing up the comparison of the 1500 dollar notebook with the 1500 iMac, I did say comparable:

You are trying to compare a system with a 32bit processor to a 64 bit processor.

A 15 inch screen to a 17 inch screen

A 60g 5400rpm drive to a 80gig 7200rpm

A DVD/CDr to a DVDr/CDr superdrive

XPhome to OSX.

I’m not gonna even start on included software.

Try again with an OEM system that can match it spec for spec. I’m not gonna say you can’t do it with a home built for cheaper but everyone forgets time is money and they never add in what that’s worth to them.

Posted by BigFil on September 1, 2004 at 7:19 AM (PDT)

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Ichijoe,
Do you make your own clothes, too? It’s much more gratifying than walking into a store and buying them off the shelf. You can choose any fabric you want. Plus, it’s like half the cost of retail clothing. Anybody who doesn’t make their own clothes must be an idiot.

Posted by Chimpee on September 1, 2004 at 7:26 AM (PDT)

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