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iMac G5: ‘From the creators of iPod’

Larry Angell of writes “In an obvious move to gain new Mac purchasers, Apple is heavily promoting the similarities between the iPod and the new iMac G5. The main tagline on Apple’s homepage says it best. “From the creators of iPod. The new iMac G5,” the page simply reads, showing an iPod and iMac side by side. It appears Apple is hoping that the cross-platform success of the iPod will help the company to convince Windows users to make their next computer purchase an iMac. ‘Just like the iPod redefined portable digital music players, the new iMac G5 redefines what users expect from a consumer desktop,’ said Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of worldwide product marketing.”

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The Wintel crowd’s main criticism of the iMac is that it isn’t revolutionary. Even they have learned to set higher standards for Apple than they do for the companies from which they buy. The iMac is a personal computer, something that is pretty well defined. Is Dell going to come out with *anything* new with their next product besides tacky new lines, gray on gray color schemes, and cheaper plastic?

Posted by Questioner on September 1, 2004 at 8:19 PM (CDT)


-> Questioner

Probably not! But, then you don not have do pay Dell any extra for all those nice curves and lines. It’s (the Computer), supposed to be a tool, not a freaking work of Art!

As for buying an iPod well fact is the iPod is nomore expensive then any of it’s competitors. Which unlike the iPod is either a) A Brick b) UI Sux c) Doesn’t have FireWire 400 support. So buying an iPod was a give in beit from Appple or HP.

Besides it’s ludicrous to even try to compare a €250(EUR) Product to a €2,500(EUR) Product Whatever the Cult of Steve tell you an iPod and that iMac are not the same thing!

Posted by Ichijoe on September 2, 2004 at 2:41 AM (CDT)


RE ichjoe

Your comments betray your perspective on what a computer SHOULD be and what it SHOULD be for.  While you at least acknowledge that design is one strong point for Apple, you fail to see beyond your limited perspective.  Here is a “general” breakdown of the target audience for each computer product, understanding that boundaries are fluid due to personal finances, family members, etc.

Power Macs=career oriented computer users (graphic design, digital photography, etc.)  The user will be highly comfortable with opening up the computer to add components and will carefully gauge life cycle.

iMac=average user, albeit intelligent and computer savvy (ie-not the average M$ user)  They want a powerful machine to play with family level photography, movies, bookkeeping, music, etc.  Games are very juvenile and a real time waster.

eMac=Great for use in the school systems, with enough power and features to accomplish most public school level assignments (fairly limited in scope unfortunately)  After that they make a great low price but fairly powerful computer for those who still want many of the features of the iMac but don’t have the funds.  Games are not considered important.

Laptops are professional or consumer. 

With all computers, and also the iPod, the user experience is paramount.  The computer and OS must simply work, without the blood pressure raising issues of component incompatibility, crashed systems, viruses, spyware, bloatware, etc.  They all must work as intended. That is what you are paying for when you buy a Mac.  For others who make the claim they can “build” another computer, that statement alone tells me you don’t understand.  Sure, I can build a computer, if I can find the spare time and want the hassle.  But if I want to actually get to work immediately then I sit down at one of my Macs. 

Finally, IMO, games are for those who, while they may be inherently intelligent, are juvenile.  I equate games with television, just more mind numbing garbage.  The percentage of games that are truly engaging and might be constructive is small, as with television shows.  Maybe fun, but mostly a waste of time.  If you will notice, the featured apps that are bundled with Macs are for production.  The games included are last minute marketing.

Posted by wolf on September 2, 2004 at 6:22 AM (CDT)


> The Wintel crowd’s main criticism of the iMac is that it isn’t revolutionary.


Don’t make me laugh.

I own only pure AMD rigs running Linux. 4-way 64-bit Opteron servers, 1- and 2-way 64-bit workstation rigs, and gigabit ethernet cabling.

One of my machines is completely silent through passive cooling, heatpipes. A Zalman triumph of German engineering. The case alone weighs over 50 Kgs and looks like the monolith from 2001. The loudest noise form it is the hard drive clicking - but I plan to put an end to that by replacing the spinning drives with some solid-state 2GB DRAM drives.

Apple is so far behind the technology curve it isn’t funny. You don’t compare them to Dell - Dell is after all several orders of magnitude larger than Apple by now. You compare Apple them to AlienWare, Velocity Micro, or any other of the tiny boutique niche PC designers or manufacturers and the truth is that they lead Apple in price, specs, power, and cutting edge.

Posted by LinAMD on September 2, 2004 at 6:30 AM (CDT)


“an iPod well fact is the iPod is nomore expensive then any of it’s competitors. Which unlike the iPod is either a) A Brick”

Obviously you’ve not used several of the newer players. One that is particularly nice is the New Gmini 400. Same size as an iPod butg with a full colour screen and MPEG-4 support. Or the new Rio Karma, with 5GB and smaller than an iPod Mini. Oh yes, and the battery on this smaller device runs for 20 hours.

Posted by compact on September 2, 2004 at 6:33 AM (CDT)


Who needs Apple’s new lame laptop-on-a-stick when you can already get a completely portable Vaio U70 from Sony?

Posted by sony does it better on September 2, 2004 at 6:37 AM (CDT)


Apple’s new iMac takes rear seat
Commentary: New computer betrays aging vision
Following the thread that Apple seems to have lost track of time, the machine comes in one old-fashioned color: 1988 platinum white. The design is hardly inspirational. In fact, if you put two headlamps on it and a metal sun visor over its “windshield,” it would be reminiscent of a 1954 DeSoto.
Observers on the Net are seeing this design as a precursor to an Apple notepad computer. To date, the notepad revolution, as predicted by Bill Gates, has been as successful as Blue Pepsi.

Apple’s missed opportunity
Apple has missed the opportunity to stay way ahead of its PC manufacturing competitors by not including Wi-Fi as standard and by failing to catch the early-adopter personal video recorder wave by including a TV tuner card.

Microsoft is forging ahead with its Windows XP Media Center Edition, looking to build on lessons from the past year. In the new iMac, Apple presents us with a fabulous living-room-compatible unit with an excellent display and lots of storage designed for digital media—but doesn’t allow for connectivity to the broadcast network.

Posted by reviews on September 2, 2004 at 7:28 AM (CDT)


We’ve had the ability to watch TV on our computers for years. Who actually does this? The reviewer really wants to watch TV on a 20” iMac screen in his living room? What a crock.

Posted by Chimpee on September 2, 2004 at 11:33 AM (CDT)


jESUS! I can’t get half way into these threads without getting so frustrated at the constant bickering and slagging off. i AM an average home user - i use my ibook for general internet and music use as well as digital photo management. i went for apple because i found the design pleasing. and whereas i admit it’s not consistent - for example, i don’t like the powermacs. But’s that’s just personal taste. i like the new imacs and i like the minimalism of the ipod which i think DOES have design similarities.
But can’t we all just grow up and stop the pc v mac spec war. just show some common sense - these arguments are just so reactionary. Compared to the Apple forums this place seems, sometimes, to be inhabited by 12 yr olds!  And please don’t take this post as an opportunity to springboard into another campaign. Sorry to nag but it really is dispiriting.

Posted by SG on September 2, 2004 at 2:11 PM (CDT)


i just ordered the 20” imac with bt keyboard & mouse!

protools/garageband/photoshop/etc will run great on this thing. i’m sure i’ll get 3 years use out of it. I’ll add a powerbook to the family next year!

i think the new imac is insanely great, if you don’t like it- don’t buy it, that’s ok too

but don’t even try comparing a $1400 Flat PC to this imac- -the point is: OS X OS X OS X OS X!!!

1.8 G5/20” LCD/ MAC OS X for under $2000-

The minute you say oh but that pc runs at blah blah blah, mac users know better!

you windoze users hung up on MHz & Hardward, enjoy that shitty os with it’s security holes & other crap.

i’m a musician and i care more about tools that allow me to be creative, macs have always done that well.

Thanks again Apple for making the best OS this planet has!
(oh ya, and thanks for the G5/1.8GHz 64bit w/ 20"LCD for $1899!)


Posted by amusiatodd on September 8, 2004 at 9:13 PM (CDT)


In the commercial with the line dances, what song is that? I’m dying to know!

Posted by frances on September 21, 2004 at 10:32 AM (CDT)


Perhaps we want to save money and have better..ever thought of that? [Please anyone who uses the term windoze do not ever open your mouth again on these boards, if you go out and buy an over priced closed platform machine.] I have started to use Linux (Going to be upgrading to Fedora core test 3 after I finish writing this.) What are you people going to say when Linux does finally arrive, you won’t have a dammned leg to stand on when faced with parts that are cheaper and an OS or two that is also cheaper than either windows or OSX.  OSX is the only good thing aside the Ipod that Apple makes; everything else is simply not worth the money.  If I want an ultra high end mobile I would take a look at Hypersonic-PC, I wouldn’t go for an Alienware and their overpriced magnesium alloy chasis.
You see the smart shopper knows where and how to spend his or her money in order to get the most out of it as well as getting what he or she wants.  I see two major problems facing those of us who wish to defeat the tyranny of Microsoft and its horrid OS [in terms of security alone.  I’m not talking about stability, seeing as I upgraded from 98 to XP and its definetly more stable than 98 ever was or could be.] The Linux world is populated by alot of elitists who don’t seem to understand common sense business practices.  They are resisting the changes that need to be made to Linux claiming those of us who have sense in our heads just want to make it windows like to the detrement of Linux. [Rabid fanatisicsm.] Then there is of course the Mac world…The developers of Mac technology are apparently too damned stupid to just port OSX over to x86 archetecture, because then they would not be able to control the entire nature of the hardware placed into thier products and they would not be able to use the same lame tactics they use to get people to buy new Ipods every six or so months.  If they ported OSX Microsoft would be practically done over night seeing as OSX is respected by the tech savy and it would offer the general consumer a true choice to Microsoft’s insecurity blanket.  I for one would get OSX if it was ported and just uninstall windows and Keep Fedora (Or if I had enough HDD space jusst go ahead and tripple boot on this machine.) If I knew there was going to be a Mac port of Winamp with the arrival of an x86 version of OSX I would be even more inclined to jump ship.
Stop making exscuses like “we don’t care about specs..“for your bad shopping practices.

Posted by Shadow Skill on September 22, 2004 at 4:57 AM (CDT)

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