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iPod shuffle clone ‘worse than you could believe’

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By LC Angell

Contributing Editor
Published: Tuesday, May 31, 2005
News Categories: iPod shuffle

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imageAn iLounge reader in Taiwan recently purchased the Luxpro Super Tangent and provided us with his observations of the iPod shuffle clone as well as a photo gallery of the device and its packaging.

The iLounger said the Super Tangent is “worse than you could believe” and that “every detail is wrong.” He said the player cost about US$115 and that the buttons do not work well, battery life is “terrible,” and the recorder simply did not record. The reader also said that the LEDs do not shine through the casing properly, and that it doesn’t fit well in a USB port. “There is nothing that works even close to right,” he said.

Update: Phillip Torrone of Make magazine let us know that he had a little better luck with the Super Tangent he purchased. He has posted a review and several photos of the device, including comparison shots beside the iPod shuffle.

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21

where did jinzo-ningen say that China was a communist country?

it is not the fault of the country for making this product; it is the fault of the individual companies.  so maybe you shouldn’t suggest that “Taiwan is the one putting this crappy #### of a product out”, yeah?

Posted by jeffhwang on June 1, 2005 at 7:22 AM (PDT)

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If the rumours are true, then Apple will probably discontinue the 4 GB mini.  They will probably still continue to sell the 6 GB mini for the time being.  It is highly doubtful that a 2 GB and/or 4 Gb shuffle would have a display or look much different than the existing shuffles (then it wouldn’t be a shuffle).  As for Asian knockoffs, just about everything is made in China these days.  Tennis racquets, golf clubs, mp3 players, etc.  If you can get it done cheaper, then why not?

Posted by Tchocky in The O.C. on June 1, 2005 at 7:53 AM (PDT)

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Zip22…you win!  I’ll never disagree with you again.  It just looks smaller.  I have yet to open it.  WMA’s don’t suck.  I think most iPod owners wish that the iPod did support WMA’s.  Can you alter the bitrate for AAC’s?  On a sidenote, I’m selling my 1 GB shuffle.  I purchased an additional 2 years’ warranty for a total of 3 years.  It comes with 3 clips, lanyard, original packaging, earbuds, etc.  Make me an offer.  Email me directly at “tchocky@sbcglobal.net”.

Posted by Tchocky in The O.C. on June 1, 2005 at 8:01 AM (PDT)

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Tchocky, what do you mean by alter? are you asking if you can change the bit rate of AAC files? and yes you can do that within iTunes.  Well if most iPod owners wish their iPod’s supported WMA then they must be terribly mistaken because I don’t think apple would ever support a competing audio codec from someone like *shutters* M$, that would just be awful.  WMA does suck, end of story.

Posted by MATRIXsjd in Burbank, Ca on June 1, 2005 at 9:09 AM (PDT)

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A reason to want WMA support is that is the format supported by public libraries. A cheap shuffle knock off that can hold an audio book or 2 would be just right until/if ever Apple decides to allow iPods to use this format.

Posted by alpha_cat on June 1, 2005 at 10:39 AM (PDT)

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greencoffeebean,

jeffhwang is right. If you actually read what I said, you’ll see that it is blatantly obvious I’m talking about the fly-by-night, anything-for-a-fast-buck bootleggers and knockoff/ripoff companies that run rampant in China and Taiwan that steal the work of other companies and make a crappy rip off that never works nearly as well as they tell you all to make $$$ off poor unsuspecting souls who don’t yet know any better that their “products” are trash.
A country doesn’t make this junk; the companies that start there, do. So, before you start getting all patriotic towards China and/or Taiwan, understand what others are saying and come to grips with the reality of what goes on over there.

As for the government, you can call them whatever you like.  The bottom line is they are a government that professes many of the same fundamental doctrines you describe in Marxist philosophy adopted by Mao and denounce captialism. Yet, this same hypocritical government, though fully capable of doing so, continually turns a blind eye to companies in their own backyard (and they exist in Beijing, Hong Kong and other parts of China proper just as much as Taiwan) that break the law and steal from others for their own monetary gain. It brings in much needed money into a mostly poverty stricken country. So, the result is crappy quality Chinese/Taiwanese made knockoffs fattening the wallets of thieves and emptying those of the unsuspecting who are unaware of the inferior junk they’re really buying.

China and Taiwan should be spoken of separately? That’s not what Beijing says.

People of intelligence know these truths. Let’s just get back to more specifically on-topic posts.

This so-called “Super Shuffle” is a “product” that should never have been. If any good can come out of this fiasco, let’s hope that the iPod line’s popularity makes this a high profile story around the world, and spreads more truth about these criminal companies in China and Taiwan that are just out to rip off the original manufacturers and more importantly, prey on unsuspecting consumers.

Posted by jinzo-ningen on June 1, 2005 at 11:47 AM (PDT)

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Well said.

Posted by Kloan in Toronto, ON on June 1, 2005 at 12:36 PM (PDT)

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It seems this Luxpro company has added some new products (shuffles with screens) to their list:

Top Tangent and EZ Tangent
http://www2.luxpro.com.tw/e_580d.htm
http://www2.luxpro.com.tw/e_590d.htm

By the way, I have something to say to all those Taiwan bashing people posting here. I’m from Taiwan, and most of us here definitely do NOT support such blatant ripoffs of existing products. In fact, the comments that have appeared on iPodLounge on the whole have been far more positive and supportive of Luxpro than any postings on Taiwanese websites. You can hardly find anyone in Taiwan (other than the company representatives, maybe) standing up for them. Most of us are outraged and feel ashamed that such a company exists in our country.

Posted by oasisweb on June 1, 2005 at 1:13 PM (PDT)

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I don’t know why some people here take such a nationalistic perspective on what has been said. There has not been any Taiwan-bashing (nor China-bashing) here. If anything, it’s “criminal-bashing”.

The fact is that a great many of these ripoff companies come from Taiwan and China. That is a simple fact. But, no one here, myself included, has faulted the Taiwanese or Chinese as a people as a whole. The fault lies with those individuals in Taiwan and China with no ethics or morals who think nothing of stealing the hard work of others and perhaps worse, exploiting their own people to manufacture this crappy merchandise, preying upon their generally sad economic state, to reap huge ill-gotten profits for themselves.

It’s good to see the good people, like yourself, standing up and expressing your disgust for slime like Luxpro. Perhaps if it is as you say and there are so many in Taiwan who despise companies like Luxpro that a movement against criminals like Luxpro and the many other knockoff makers over there will grow and force truly meaningful action by the governments of Taiwan and China to shutdown all these thieves. Because, in the end, bootleggers and knockoff makers hurt everyone.

Posted by jinzo-ningen on June 1, 2005 at 2:35 PM (PDT)

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http://www2.luxpro.com.tw/e-tangent.htm

Tien-chiu domino’s as an inspiration? they must be joking!
Its just so stupid! and funny! and sad! I just can’t believe it!

Posted by louispavlo in Southampton, UK on June 1, 2005 at 2:49 PM (PDT)

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Why are we dissing ANY country when there are simply groups to blame for things like this? In this case, I blame luxpro.

Posted by minty on June 1, 2005 at 3:11 PM (PDT)

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That’s the whole point, minty. Nobody is “dissing” any country…just the slimy criminals like Luxpro. Like louispavlo said, even Luxpro’s own homepage is a pathetic joke!

Posted by jinzo-ningen on June 1, 2005 at 4:19 PM (PDT)

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*iPod shuffle clone ‘worse than you could believe’*

Wow! What a biased friggin fan-boy review!

*...battery life is “terrible,?...*

Well that fits the description of all of Apple’s iPod’s products right there.

Posted by Bruce Wayne on June 2, 2005 at 12:00 AM (PDT)

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try again bruce wayne.

ipod shuffles battery life is 25 hours +

and if features werent working on the unit this person recieved, how the hell is that a “biased friggin fan-boy review”?  your comments about the battery life prove you’re just an anti ipod fan-boy.

Posted by zip22 on June 2, 2005 at 1:52 AM (PDT)

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How can no one here notice that under “News” ipodlounge’s source is an “ipodlounge reader”, who’s that? Great journalism! They’re only reporting what you want to hear, that the product is crap. But at leat they did an update with a link to a good review!
...any one else for some biased “NEWS”?!?

Ps. This has nothing to do with the product, as I do not condone cheep knockoffs. But it seems everyone here is blind to cheep journalism.

Posted by joeyjojo on June 2, 2005 at 4:57 AM (PDT)

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are all apple products designed in california, assembled in china?
probably designed by chinese workers in california as well?

Posted by junar on June 2, 2005 at 5:07 AM (PDT)

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Were I Apple, I’d do nothing.  These knock-offs [TryPods I call them] just make Apple’s products more chic.  Kinda like those fake Louis Vuitton bags you see around town.

Now, after they make some money off of them, I’d BODYSLAM them in court and take all the profits.

Posted by Gordy. in Atlanta, GA on June 2, 2005 at 11:58 AM (PDT)

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zip22: easy there ipod fanboy. (u know u are one) didn’t mean to offend you.

What I am spectlating, is that that review was over done because ipodlounge is an apple fanboy site and would probably ‘fake’or bend the truth and put up a bad review to put down their competition.

Don’t you ever think about things like that? or you take fanboy’s opinion seriously?

Look at that reader’s review:

“worse than you could believe”
“every detail is wrong.”
“and the recorder simply did not record”
“it doesn’t fit well in a USB port”
“and that the buttons do not work well”

if you can’t smell a fanboy review then you are a #####.

what the hell is an anit-ipod fanboy? Just a word fanboy’s like you made up to try and get back to those who are open minded.

I’ve been using apple’s products for the past 4 years? So your judgement is wrong again.

Posted by Bruce Wayne on June 2, 2005 at 12:37 PM (PDT)

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Bruce Wayne…

I’m personally offended when a reader even speculates that iPodlounge would “bend the truth.” We would NEVER do what you have suggested - for Apple or any other company. Sure, we love Apple products, but all products have their problems and those problems have been well documented on iPodlounge.com. We could care less if a clone worked or didn’t work.

Please note: iPodlounge DID NOT REVIEW the Tangent clone.

Dennis Lloyd
Publisher
iPodlounge

Posted by Dennis Lloyd in Irvine, CA on June 2, 2005 at 3:01 PM (PDT)

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junar: You’re too funny!

joeyjojo: “cheap” is word used to describe either something inexpensive or of poor quality.
“cheep” is frequently used to describe the sound a bird makes. I think you were trying for the former.

And, you might want to read what Dennis Lloyd posted regarding the truth and reviews. It makes perfect sense.

Posted by jinzo-ningen on June 2, 2005 at 5:51 PM (PDT)

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