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Jobs discusses phones and Yahoo, ribs Gates

In addition to showing off podcasting support in a beta version of iTunes 4.9 at the D: All Things Digital conference, Apple CEO Steve Jobs discussed the cell phone industry’s move towards digital music, Yahoo’s new subscription service, and even ribbed Microsoft chairman Bill Gates. The Wall Street Journal has the complete story (paid subscription required).

Jobs said downloading music from mobile phone carriers would be “a lousy buying experience” and likely to be two or three times as expensive as iTunes, adding that “it’s hard to see their customers as that stupid.”

The Apple chief also said that Yahoo’s $60-per-year music subscription plan was “substantially” below the company’s costs and would soon be raised. Jobs said Apple employees have a betting pool on when Yahoo will raise the $5-a-month rate. He said he put his money on five months from now.

And finally, Jobs took advantage of Gates being in the crowd (he spoke today). During his talk at the conference, Jobs asked everyone in attendance how many had iPods. After a number of hands went into the air, Jobs asked “Bill, do you have your hand up?”

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I can’t wait until someone takes Steve Jobs’ quote out of context, and say “Steve Jobs thinks cell phone customers are stupid.”


Posted by narco on May 23, 2005 at 1:50 PM (CDT)


Jobs is right that buying music from a phone company will probably be a “lousy buying experience”.  But, it doesn’t have to be and the phone companies better bust their butts to make sure it’s not if they want people to jump onboard.  I’m personally a fan of carrying one device and my Treo cell phone is the one device I’m never without.  When they get storage up to par on my smartphone and if the downloading process is seemless…Apple will lose me forever.

A lot of people have been predicting that iTMS will raise its prices.  I thought it would’ve happened a long time ago, so I give Jobs props for being able to hold the labels off this long.  For now, Yahoo is a great deal and I think people should take advantage of it…once again it’s too bad that Jobs doesn’t want to open the iPod up to be used with other services.  Of course he would be a fool to do that, but I wish he would.

Posted by Talking Madness on May 23, 2005 at 2:00 PM (CDT)



Jobs thinks everyone is stupid.  And when he sees them drop $449 for a 60GB iPod photo, he knows they’re stupid…:)

Posted by Talking Madness on May 23, 2005 at 2:03 PM (CDT)


For the people that have the wallstreet journal membership. Did Bill raise his hand???

Posted by Byrdman on May 23, 2005 at 2:08 PM (CDT)



According to Appleinsider, Gates did not raise his hand. Apparently he has a Rio

Posted by iPodG5 on May 23, 2005 at 5:27 PM (CDT)


Talking Madness: “For now, Yahoo is a great deal and I think people should take advantage of it”

The difference with iTunes and Yahoo raising there prices is this:

if iTunes raised their prices tomorrow, any music you’ve already bought for 99c is yours to keep, you never ever ever have to pay for it again.

if you buy a whole lot of music from Yahoo! and 6 months down the track they raise the price from $5 to $10, there isn’t anything you can do about it, unless of course you don’t mind losing your music.

I think this is a side of subscription based services that is very rarely explored/brought up, and really should be. The contract you agree to when you sign up to Yahoo, napster etc. is per month, meaning they can put the prices up whenever they want.

Posted by Harrison on May 23, 2005 at 7:50 PM (CDT)



I believe you are a little mistaken.  There are two components to the Yahoo! Music…

1. The monthly subscription, and
2. Buying tracks for 79 cents each.

If you cancel your subscription you will still be able to play any songs you bought, just like with iTMS.

The iPod is the coolest thing for listening to music, and that’s what makes other services seem like they’re stupid, but this Yahoo! Music is a great deal.  It’s like satellite radio, but you can transfer songs to your player and take them into the gym or whatever.

Without a doubt, if Yahoo! Music could transfer songs to your iPod, you would be all over this.  Apple will offer something like this soon, and everyone is going to act like it’s the best thing since sliced bread…trust me.

Wouldn’t you like to pay $5 a month for all the songs at iTMS and the ability to put them on your iPod?  You know you would?

For now, I’m going to try the Y! Music out and listen to it on my laptop.  I’m interested in seeing what they’re radio stations are like.

Posted by Talking Madness on May 23, 2005 at 10:44 PM (CDT)

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