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AppleInsider claims that Apple will introduce an iPod boombox accessory that was originally planned for last week’s Macworld Expo at a special media event in the near future.

Macsimum News notes that “Apple’s iPod sales embarrassingly crushed the Xbox this Christmas.” More than 14 million iPods sold, compared to 600,000 Xbox consoles.

In a story on Disney and Pixar (Steve Jobs’ other company), The Times mentions in passing that Apple is “working on the next generation of iPods, which would have the ability to connect wirelessly to the internet.”

Reuters reports on TVMyPod and the legality of selling iPods that come pre-loaded with movies and TV programs already on them.

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21

MSFT was tricky with their 360 sales.  They only made a limited supply to create buz for their product.  When the PS3 ships sometime this year, I guarantee 360 supplies will increase.

Posted by Ian0909 on January 21, 2006 at 12:35 PM (CST)

22

Its articles like this that give iPod and Mac users bad names…

Posted by BlackVariant on January 21, 2006 at 4:06 PM (CST)

23

um…these 2 things are being compared because they were the ‘hot products’ this xmas.
And if the short supply is microsofts fault, then its their fault they didnt outsell the ipod, and you should accept it. U know, the xbox 360 was in huge demand, but after the various reviews, demand has certainly slowed down (still a demand, but not as big as before december). hey, did you guys know that Microsoft are pondering bringing out an attachable HD-DVD drive cso they acknowledge it was a bad decision not to include one?
io find that worse than buying an ipod and then apple bringing out a new one.

dan

Posted by Dan/Spooky2k on January 22, 2006 at 12:33 PM (CST)

24

I have a feeling the “next-generation iPod” thing is just a way to get sites like iLounge to post a link, even though the article has nothing to do with it…

Posted by EricS2008 on January 22, 2006 at 1:12 PM (CST)

25

“I have a feeling the “next-generation iPod

Posted by Nobody on January 22, 2006 at 2:51 PM (CST)

26

You guys know absolutely nothing about marketing if you think iPods and Xboxes are not comparable products. These products were both vying for our Holiday dollars. In this case, these products are not as differentiated as one might think. Most people/families can only afford one product to buy and it looks like the iPod was the product chosen most. The person who wrote this article understood this and was not trying to be biased or a Mac zealot. And yes, old Navy scarves could be part of this equation if people chose an iPod at the expense of buying a scarf as a gift. The gas example above was pure ignorance.

The real argument here is whether people would have bought more Xboxes if the supply was greater/unlimited.

Posted by fanboy on January 22, 2006 at 3:04 PM (CST)

27

“The real argument here is whether people would have bought more Xboxes if the supply was greater/unlimited.”

No, there’s no real argument here.  The answer is yes.  -That’s- what the problem is with this example.  Both of these products had their sales somewhat throttled by supply.  Not demand.  This -is- poor journalism, because even if you say that one product stole cache from the other, the headline contains “embarrassingly crushed”.  Selling out in all of your North American stores and most of your European stores, to the point where the price that ebay reselling could sustain was more than $800, is simply not embarrassing, and Macsimum’s Neo probably had plenty of knowledge towards this end.  Even in Japan, where the Xbox has never had a foothold, there was a noticeable increase in interest for the 360.

Posted by bluntdoc on January 22, 2006 at 4:36 PM (CST)

28

What’s more, neo says that “According to a CNN report, “Microsoft Corp. has only sold 600,000 of its new Xbox 360 video game consoles in the United States since its November launch

Posted by bluntdoc on January 22, 2006 at 4:40 PM (CST)

29

Fanboy-

Bozo…the gas example was a joke…just like you’re a joke.

Keep telling yourself you’re a marketing genius…since no one else thinks you are.

And, no…Old Navy scarves can’t be compared to iPods.

Posted by Talking Madness in Los Angeles on January 22, 2006 at 9:40 PM (CST)

30

hey, old navy scarves are hot products, considering they cost 5 bucks a piece.  They sold out faster than the matching fleece beenies.

Posted by i work at ON on January 23, 2006 at 2:23 AM (CST)

31

There is nothing common about iPods and X-boxes, except for the fact that you can use money to buy both.  By the argument of nuthin and 3rdeye, and parroted by a couple of other self-proclaimed marketing geniuses, we should compare iPod sales to anything that may be considered entertainment and bought over the Christmas holidays.  The referenced article is yet another lame, thinly disguised Microsoft bashing attempt.  Microsoft won - get over it!

Posted by kokketiel on January 23, 2006 at 8:31 AM (CST)

32

I don’t understand why everyone is going nuts on Apple over how badly Microsoft screwed up the 360 launch.  Limited supply or not they screwed up badly.  This is the one time where they were the only game in town in terms of next-gen consoles during the biggest selling time of the year and they blew it.  They won’t have that chance again.  Next christmas we’ll have both the ps3 and revolution and the 360 will be old news. 
Apple was ready for the holidays and that’s why you see news on how they crushed Microsoft in sales.  Maybe Microsoft knew they wouldn’t sell well so they produced a lot less than they should have.  I guess it doesn’t matter because at the end of the day the sales figures show what happened.  Anyone that says otherwise is just spinning!

Posted by Alex on January 23, 2006 at 3:27 PM (CST)

33

on reading these talkbacks, i’ve noticed the mircosoft fanboy sarguing that the 360 is great and sold out…um….yeah, ur point is?apple still outsodl competitors when its supply was throttled. Failing to supply a product is not an excuse. Its down to the company, and in this case, caused them to come in at #2 best selling product this holiday…behind the ipod. trherefore, the ipod won. get it?
if not…dont reply. jsut give up tryin gto understand and go play ur 360, whilst holding that PSU above ur head so it doesnt freeze.
dan x

Posted by Dan/Spooky2k on January 23, 2006 at 3:54 PM (CST)

34

You guys are absolutely right. When you think about it, of course an Xbox and an iPod are comparable in this context. I guess I have a thing or two to learn about marketing. Sorry for being a such a jackass.

Posted by Talking Madness on January 25, 2006 at 1:25 PM (CST)

35

Failing to supply a product is not an excuse.

That’s true, especially when comparing similar-type products.  But I wonder how long it takes to make one 60GB 5G iPod vs. one Xbox 360 (compared since they’re the same list price).  And for that matter, how long does it take to make a Shuffle? (Betcha a LOT of that 14 mill were made up of Apple’s cheapest DAP.)  Somehow I doubt Microsoft could’ve ever reached the sort of production numbers that Apple did with their various iPods, at least without having many times the factory space that Apple does to do it in.

So if you insist on comparing iPods to 360s…I’d say it was a rigged race from the very start.

BTW, it turns out the fanboy site Macsimum News got the actual number of 360s shipped wrong; the number shipped was 1.5 million, according to the just-released quarterly report from Redmond. Still not 14 MILLION, I know, but when compared to the initial launch shipments of the Sony PS2 (actually comparing the 360 to a SIMILAR product—gasp)—pegged at 1 million or so, and which had an extra month of pre-Christmas sales in the NA market that the 360 did—the 360 actually didn’t do as badly as Macsimum implied, even though most analysts thought MSFT should’ve been able to build more (just like they thought Sony should’ve been able to build more PS2 consoles six years ago).

My new 360 doesn’t do portable music. My iPods do. When my 360 didn’t make it in for Christmas, I certainly didn’t go out and buy an iPod as alternative (of course I didn’t need to since I already have iPods); Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero, my 5G iPod do not, but my 360 does FUNTASTIC. I don’t and won’t believe that for the most part 360 money that went unspent because of MSFT’s supply problems went instead to the iPod or even iPod-related accessories; it certainly didn’t for me (if that ‘alternative replacement theory’ were the case, then Nikon would’ve been the winner for my ‘360 dollars’ with the new D70s DSLR I bought for myself).

BTW Dan, it’s only been a couple of days, but my 360 hasn’t locked up (knock wood). My 60GB 5G, however, locked up and had to be reset on the first day I used it, and has done it twice since in the intervening months. Just thought you should know in case you had some notion that iPods were indeed flawless.

Posted by flatline response on January 26, 2006 at 7:37 PM (CST)

36

TM, you are forgiven. ;)

Posted by flatline response on January 26, 2006 at 7:41 PM (CST)

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