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Mix: Jobs interviews, iSecrets, Beatles, Zune phone

Apple CEO Steve Jobs appeared in two televised interviews following the announcement of the iPhone yesterday. Jobs spoke with both CNBC and ABC’s Nightline. Watch videos at the links.

Fortune’s Peter Lewis has written an article about how Apple kept the iPhone a secret. “Apple didn’t show Cingular the final iPhone prototype until just weeks before this week’s debut. In some cases, Apple crafted bogus handset prototypes to show not just to Cingular executives, but also to Apple’s own workers.”

Despite Apple CEO Steve Jobs playing a Beatles song during his keynote presentation yesterday at Macworld Expo, the band is still nowhere to be found on the iTunes Store.

Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft’s entertainment and devices division, said his company is considering a mobile phone integrated with its Zune media player. “It’s probably on the table of things for us to look at, but not the number one thing we are focused on,” Bach said.

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Reporter: “Apple just released the iCar, a new vehicle with five wheels.”

Microsoft: “Yeah, we’re going to do that too.”

Has Microsoft *ever* come up with anything original that wasn’t a copy of somebody else?! And I’m not just talking Apple either, practically all their software has been “me too” copies of other company’s stuff - and traditionally it’s been inferior to the original.

Posted by Nusm on January 10, 2007 at 1:55 PM (CST)


Antoin Lavosier just sayed: in the world nothing is created. everything is copied…

bill gates does the same…

Posted by Leonardo Zingano on January 10, 2007 at 3:04 PM (CST)


just remembered…today i saw the movie “Pirates of the Silicon Walley”, that shows it: steve jobs does something and bill gates copies and becomes rich… thing are changing now -i hope-

Posted by Leonardo Zingano on January 10, 2007 at 3:13 PM (CST)


Get Bach JoJo! I got a phone call to make!

Posted by a3rdleg on January 10, 2007 at 3:21 PM (CST)


You know, it’s not even fun to make jokes about Zune any more. It’s like, “Oh, no, it’s a brown iPod phone”.


Posted by Multimoog on January 10, 2007 at 4:30 PM (CST)


ain’t those lads at MS a funny bunch! They so busy laughing and ripping or buying others off that they have no time to innovate!  ya gotta love them.. of course it ain’t going to funny when Steve the Balmer’s kids come home from school today and ask : “Hey Dad can you get me an iPhone”... ohhhh! we are going to have a new stevio video to watch ain’t we fellers!

Posted by vanni on January 10, 2007 at 4:30 PM (CST)


You guys are all idiots. Do you think iPods were the first digital audio player (mp3 player)? Do you think Apple was the first to introduce an mp3 player with a phone? The Zune Phone was a rumor for a few months now, WAY before the iPhone has been announced.

Like someone said before, people copy other people’s ideas. In this case, Apple sure weren’t the first to do these things. It’s a shame how most iFanBoys are 10 year olds that don’t know what they are talking about.

Posted by Mike on January 10, 2007 at 4:54 PM (CST)



“Do you think iPods were the first digital audio player (mp3 player)?”

no, but they developed some pretty clever improvements (clickwheel anybody?). and that’s not the only example.

“The Zune Phone was a rumor for a few months now, WAY before the iPhone has been announced.”

yeah well the iphone was a rumor for a few YEARS before it or the zune phone or even the zune mp3 were announced.

Posted by daniel on January 10, 2007 at 5:06 PM (CST)


Hey mike, name one Microsoft innovation that *they* came up, can ya?  If Apple hadn’t come out with the Mac, they’d still be selling DOS today.  Do you think the Zune would exist without the iPod?  What about Internet Explorer?  They bought the Mosaic browser to make that.

Apple’s products are innovative.  Microsoft’s products are “we want a piece of that too!” copies and substandard.  Apple seems to actually put some thought into the user and their interaction with the products.  Microsoft?  How can we crush another company and squeeze another dime out of our users?  I’m not an iFanBoy as you so elequently put it, in fact I’m typing this on a WinXP laptop, but I can recognize that at least Apple goes out on a limb to create and innovative - sometimes with spectacular successes (OS X, iPod, iMac), and sometimes with spectacular failures (20th Anniversary Mac, Cube, Newton) - but at least their doing something besides copying everyone else.  Just because I respect the company for their products doesn’t make me an iFanBoy.

Posted by Nusm on January 10, 2007 at 6:09 PM (CST)


Didn’t Apple “borrow” very heavily from Xerox’s work in GUI design when they developed the Lisa?

Posted by matt on January 10, 2007 at 6:19 PM (CST)


@matt - The main thing I remember Apple copied from Xerox was the mouse. I’m not so sure about the gui.

Posted by ├ćnima on January 10, 2007 at 7:13 PM (CST)


The idea that Apple stole the GUI from Xerox after the Parc tour is a myth.  They paid Xerox in cash and stock for the rights to the GUI code.

Posted by Nusm on January 10, 2007 at 8:16 PM (CST)


Typical Microsoft response: give some F.U.D. in advance of the anouncement and then say some vaporware is in the works.  The act is getting to be a joke.

Posted by 1weasel on January 10, 2007 at 10:53 PM (CST)


Apple borrows ideas. iTunes was bought. But the difference is this: they take it and improve on it. I like Dashboard better than Konfabulator (Sorry, Arlo.), and the Leopard version looks *so* awesome. I used SoundJam before iTunes. iTunes is way better and continues to improve. And right on down the line.

But here’s the difference: Zune can wi-fi a song locally and add some wonky DRM to a podcast. iPhone can e-mail a photo anywhere in the world. I’m waiting for the hack that allows you to e-mail your songs, too. I bet it wouldn’t be to difficult, relatively speaking.

There’s a reason why 80% of Microsoft employees own iPods.

Posted by infinityltd.org on January 11, 2007 at 10:17 PM (CST)


By Reuters
Published: May 12, 2005, 9:59 AM PDT Microsoft’s chairman says he doesn’t “believe the success of the iPod is sustainable in the long run.” The story “Gates says mobile phones will overtake iPods”.  Fastforward to late 2006-early 2007.  MS releases the “Zune” (ho hum), Apple debuts the “iPhone”.  Remember the Wayne Gretzky quote that Jobs displayed at the end of the Keynote “I skate to where the puck will be, not to where it is.”  In all the threads I’ve read since the Keynote, nobody has picked up on the inuendo. So, who is the visionary, and who is the pretender?

Posted by cpotsch on January 12, 2007 at 3:30 PM (CST)

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