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Mix: shuffle dissection, Dell, shadow mode, Gruber

AppleMatters has posted several iPod shuffle dissection photos. The innards slide out by pulling on the USB plug after removing the switch on the device’s backside. (It is not clear whether one has to pop off the round controls on the shuffle’s face.

In an interview with Silicon.com, Dell CEO Kevin Rollins says Apple isn’t “in the same league” as Dell and that the iPod is a “fad” and a “one-product wonder.”

Scott Knaster has noted a new feature in iTunes 4.7.1 for the iPod shuffle. The “shadow mode” option keeps your shuffle in the Source list even after you’ve ejected it so you edit its contents at any time for easy updating later.

Daring Fireball’s John Gruber has posted great article on Apple’s new Mac mini and iPod shuffle. The Mac pundit offers several insightful thoughts.

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I’m sure the Dell CEO must have a distant relative who dismissed the television and radio as just “passing fads.” While the Dell DJ does a passable job of cloning the iPod, it is still lacking in other areas, including the bullshit design of the volume button being located near the power switch a the top. Hit the wrong button and curse yourself.

Posted by Mahzorim iPod on January 17, 2005 at 11:15 AM (CST)


that’s interesting, I never considered apple in the same league as Dell anyway,  I always considered apple better in many ways.

Posted by MATRIXsjd on January 17, 2005 at 11:21 AM (CST)


Apple= Mercedes
Dell = Ford Taurus

Of course they aren’t in the same league.

I also wonder why he considers the HD players to bee a fad, considering he’s got a fair amount invested in the market. I guess he’s angry his sales didn’t QUADRUPLE thanks to his DJ.

Posted by Asher on January 17, 2005 at 11:32 AM (CST)


John Gruber’s article is a must-read; he has some really good points there imo. Even though, you won’t be able to read Ipodlounge’s black text on white background after staring 20 min at the white text on grey background : S

I also would like the “Shadow mode

Posted by Jonasy on January 17, 2005 at 11:40 AM (CST)


well said, both of you.

Posted by M Bargo on January 17, 2005 at 11:41 AM (CST)


WHAT i have a taurus… well its my first car so i aint complaining…

Posted by armless on January 17, 2005 at 11:53 AM (CST)


wow…this Kevin Rollins guy is a moron.  he’s saying that walkmen were a fad?  are you kidding me?  walkmen revolutionized portable music.  it’s called MOVING ON…improving technology.  if there weren’t mp3 players people would still probably using walkmen.  i know i used mine before i got my ipod.

Posted by wezman2k on January 17, 2005 at 12:23 PM (CST)


The Shuffle certainly does more than you would think from looking at it.

For instance, triple-click Play and it will re-start the playlist from the beginning. No need to know how far back to skip.

And it plays Audiobooks, too. Something MANY brands of portable player will not do.

Posted by Nagromme on January 17, 2005 at 1:24 PM (CST)


I think he is speaking of Dell as a powerhouse of sales success, not what you all think he meant. He is acknowledging that Apple this year has incredible sales of the iPod but that doesn’t mean it is in the same league as Dell which sells millions of products day in day out, year after year. It remains to be seen if Apple can continue to iPod success for years and years while at the same time finding that success going to the rest of their product lines. That is going to be very, very tough.

When it comes to selling stuff Apple has had some amazing successes but if you have to study someone in buisness school or get a safe stock pick, Dell trumps Apple every day of the week and twice on Sunday,

And PS: I love my iPods. (3G & shuffle)

Posted by canyonblue737 on January 17, 2005 at 2:20 PM (CST)


LMAO…the Walkman was a fad…...a fad that lasted 20 years.

Posted by schaaking on January 17, 2005 at 2:29 PM (CST)


Dell wish they had a one-time hit. They have a bunch of low-priced, mediocre products that the average-joe will pick up solely based on price.

Fad or not, it still revolutionized the industry. People say that MP3 players were out way before the iPod, but it’s also about the music store, the “jukebox” software and the whole integration.

Definitely a fad worth a hell of a lot of money.


Posted by narco on January 17, 2005 at 2:29 PM (CST)


If the Dell DJ is the dell idea of mp3 sales I’d hope the iPod was a fad too. HAHA. Dude , you’re getting owned!

Posted by DaDeacon on January 17, 2005 at 3:00 PM (CST)


I don’t think Dell does well because of it’s products. It does well because of Windows. I don’t think he can claim any victory. If OSX was the dominant OS, he’d be getting the short end of the stick.

Posted by Asher on January 17, 2005 at 3:15 PM (CST)


Improved thought”
iPod is to DAP as Windows is to PC’s.

Sure, Windows will eventually be replaced. Everything will be. Is it a fad? Hell no.

I’d say that Microsoft even has a one-hit wonder. How many of it’s other devices have taken off? Media Centers? Lord no. Pocket PC’s? Not really, compared to Palm.

Really, the only thing Microsoft sells well in is the OS, and software for it like Office.

Every company has their niche of great-sellers, Apple’s happens to be a DAP. Does that mean it’s a one-hit wonder? No, it just means that they have one SPECTACULARLY selling product, and others that don’t do so well.

Posted by Asher on January 17, 2005 at 3:20 PM (CST)


After looking at that dissection of the shuffle, I’m still trying to figure out why Apple used a LiOn battery instead of a AAA, and having done so the shuffle still only gets 12 hours best case on a charge! And it still seems pretty oversized considering there’s no screen, recording, or FM circuitry.

Posted by Demosthenes on January 17, 2005 at 3:31 PM (CST)


Regardless of what any other company thinks of Apple, you cannot deny that they are doing a fantastic job at gaining popularity. Apple has the portable music market cornered, and now that the intrest is there they go ahead and release a dirt cheap Mac HD. I’d check it out, why not? If you’ve ever been to an Apple retail store you know that Apple products are ment to be enjoyed. Apple has got all the right ingredients for success. The iPod is just what they needed to get back in the game. No longer are they the other guy.

Dell is just anothe slave to Microsoft. They make a good product but nothing new.

Posted by intern_mike on January 17, 2005 at 3:31 PM (CST)


Dell is just upset that even though they are selling a cheaper product people are seeing it for what it is…an inferior product.  That is all Dell does…is sell inferior products!  The computers they sell work on technology that is years old.  People like them because they make old tech cheaper, not because they make anything new because they don’t

Posted by Cody Barnett on January 17, 2005 at 4:01 PM (CST)


at least rollins didn’t say that the dj is superior to ipod

Posted by Exvicious on January 17, 2005 at 4:04 PM (CST)


just got my shuffle today at 4:00 pm ctl time it is nice (3g & shuffle) i like the shadow mode

Posted by BIGP on January 17, 2005 at 5:00 PM (CST)


dell man is just pissed off because people are realizing that dell products come from his rectum, get put in a box, and are sold as inferior computers. if ipod is just a fad, than what do you call dell’s horribly selling djs.

Posted by podskater on January 18, 2005 at 6:01 PM (CST)

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