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Mix: UK iTMS, Snocap, Gruber, ASU, Pogue

Following a complaint from a consumer watchdog that the UK iTunes Music Store overcharges customers, the Office of Fair Trading has referred the issue to the European Commission.

Napster founder Shawn Fanning is touting a new technology called Snocap that is designed to help music companies cash in on peer-to-peer file sharing.

Mac pundit John Gruber has written an excellent piece on the rumored flash memory-based iPod. “If there is a flash memory iPod in the pipeline, the fact that it uses flash memory is the least interesting part of the story,” he concludes.

Arizona State University is offering free iPod minis to students applying for housing renewals at certain locations for next year. Eligible students must apply by 5 p.m. today.

This Sunday, Dec. 5, CBS News Sunday Morning will air a report by best-selling author and NY Times tech writer David Pogue on the culture of iPod Mania. Pogue won a 2004 Business Emmy just yesterday for his tech segments on the show.

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gruber makes some interesting points on the ipod flash.

some more thoughts that gruber didn’t address:

it wouldn’t be smart for apple to release the ipod flash (if it exists) in time for the holidays. most people who buy ipods as gifts are probably buying them for first time buyers. and given the choice between a cheaper flash ipod and an ipod mini i’m sure they’d choose the flash. it would hurts apples sales of the mini and regular ipod more than anything. right now there is less choice and so people buying ipods as gifts have to go for the more expensive choice. of course this is just my own wild speculation.

apple might have the motive to release a flash player because they would only lose sales to themself. it would be better to sell an ipod flash and lose a little money to themself than the competition. it’s basically starbucks business model. this might hurt the product down the road though and apple should be careful.

i think the best reason though for apple to release an ipod flash is to get people hooked on itunes and the itms. once you’re hooked on itunes your hooked on apple and the ipod. a cheap player could be the gateway to itunes which could be the gateway to a real ipod which could be the gateway to a mac. it’s a weird trickle down thing that apple has got going on. one product hooks the consumer and leads them to the next product. it’s the main advantage that apple has to the competition… and they know it.

Posted by trav on December 3, 2004 at 12:57 PM (CST)


256 MB just isn’t enough storage. Once you start talking about 512 MB or 1 GB of flash-memory storage, you’re looking at prices that bump up against the existing iPod Mini.

Lots of people seem to miss the simple fact that you can sell an “empty” flash player quite cheaply, then sell people refill 1GB or 2Gb cards for $50-$70 each. That’s a good, continuing revenue stream, extracted from the lower end of the market that would have troubler saving up or justifying a big once-off $250 purchase.

Posted by Demosthenes on December 3, 2004 at 1:10 PM (CST)


lol i can’t wait to see that snocap put into effect, it will effect p2p sharing like the war on drugs does.

Posted by M Bargo on December 3, 2004 at 4:02 PM (CST)


I guess the other thing with a Flash-based iPod (and I don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet) is that it could actually come bundled with a new iMac. It would be a nice “taster” for people who aren;t really great followers of technology to get them used to carry music around in a digital format/using iTMS. I think a cheap, well designed 500MB player could be a nice wee device for going away for a weekend, taking on a cycling trip, going kayaking or tramping etc. But it sure wouldn’t replace my my 4G 40GB

Posted by Lawrence Mikkelsen on December 5, 2004 at 4:49 PM (CST)


I hate living in the UK.  We get ripped off all the time, with iTMS prices being just one of many.  With the UK Pound being so strong against the US Dollar, I am really tempted take a trip across the pond.

Posted by Ipod UK on December 7, 2004 at 5:47 AM (CST)

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