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Holy, that’s lot of petitions.

Posted by Bob on July 10, 2003 at 10:19 PM (PST)

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There was a case in Austrailia with those CDs that won’t play on certain computers (the copy protected ones), so a guy sued the record company and won. I’m sure it will happen again.

Posted by Steven on July 11, 2003 at 1:57 AM (PST)

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I think that case was in Brazil.  (Maybe there was one in Australia too, but there was definately one in Brazil.)

Posted by Eric on July 11, 2003 at 2:29 AM (PST)

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Well luckily any kind of policeware will be made by ppl that are a few steps behind anyone who cracks these kinds of copy protections…

Its simple - it just wont work -

People tend to forget that there was a time before CDs and LPs and still there were so called musicians -

Thats were we are going and hopefully it will sort out all the idiots who are not into making music cuz they love it - but simply to make some cash.

Posted by Sam Jones on July 11, 2003 at 4:11 AM (PST)

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i’m glad i’m in the UK, they cant sue me for anything, anyway i only download tv episodes which i dont see what is wrong with

Posted by ti on July 11, 2003 at 6:08 AM (PST)

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This is unbelievable. It infringes on our rights to free speech as American Citizens. Public broadcast is free speech. Unfortunately this future is inevitable.

Look: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

Posted by mongoos150 on July 11, 2003 at 7:49 AM (PST)

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O Rumor, heartbreaking goddess, ruination of men…

Not only is this story unbelievable, it is untrue. There is no such bill currently pending in the Senate. Text was drafted last year, during the 107th Congress, but was never introduced.

Posted by Rob on July 11, 2003 at 7:59 AM (PST)

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Sam Jones: “Well luckily any kind of policeware will be made by ppl that are a few steps behind anyone who cracks these kinds of copy protections… “

Well unluckily that is a criminal act. See DMCA for details.

Posted by pbox on July 11, 2003 at 8:33 AM (PST)

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Thanks again america, screwing up the world with more of your neo-nazi laws and rule. Thank god im Canadian, and we actually have a democracy, and really believe peace can solve problems.

Posted by Stasyna on July 11, 2003 at 9:33 AM (PST)

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Hey Stasyna,

Read the post by Rob, two above yours. There is no such bill pending in Congress.

But that won’t stop untutored nitwits from screaming about the fascism rampant throughout the United States.

By the way, how’s the Sklarzyk v. Canada case coming along there in your enlightened country?

Posted by Oxhead in Washington, D.C. on July 11, 2003 at 9:47 AM (PST)

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“Thanks again america, screwing up the world with more of your neo-nazi laws and rule. Thank god im Canadian, and we actually have a democracy, and really believe peace can solve problems.”

Yes thank goodness you are Canadian.

Posted by kainjow on July 11, 2003 at 10:35 AM (PST)

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your a little out of touch on that one aren’t you Oxhead. the government has realized it was a mix-up, and have cleared it up.

however, i do not see how a family being deported over a mix-up (actually happens allot, in both contries, although you guys seem to have some trouble finding the guys after there visas expire) and software being added to computers to see what we are downloading and copying. doesn’t even seem like these stories would be in the same section of the newspaper, canadian or otherwise.

Posted by Dean0 on July 11, 2003 at 10:38 AM (PST)

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Dear Dean0,

I’m happy the government in Ottowa has cleared up this mess. But does that necessarily imply that some Canadian bureaucrats were not acting in a mean and capricious way that tormented this Polish immigrant family?

My point was that no government is perfect. Let me see, maybe I should enumerate instances of mistreatment of the native populations in your fabulously progressive country.

And finally, this legislation that everyone is talking about—the original reason for this thread—doesn’t exist.

If such a law were likely to be enacted, I would be on the front lines protesting it. But I’m not going to get worked up over a phantom.

Posted by Oxhead in Washington, D.C. on July 11, 2003 at 10:56 AM (PST)

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although you seem to be getting worked up over canada for some reason oxhead. if you have a problem with Rob, they i would take it up with him, (i realize he painted you all with the same brush too, so i don’t blame you for starting this) but i wouldn’t pull all of canada through the mud, not the worst place in the world to live.

Posted by Dean0 on July 11, 2003 at 11:34 AM (PST)

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Stasyna:“Thanks again america, screwing up the world with more of your neo-nazi laws and rule. Thank god im Canadian, and we actually have a democracy, and really believe peace can solve problems.”

Canada? You say “we actually have a democracy” like we don’t? Do I have to remind you that The USA was built and founded on democracy? I think your ‘peace’ statement was a curtain for saying “Canada has no armed forces, the only reason we haven’t been invaded is because America is out big brother’. Don’t even get us started about “neo-nazi laws and rule”. If you truely think that about our great country, you know nothing about America. Why you don’t you come down and visit our country to see how ignorant your statments really are.

Posted by collie on July 11, 2003 at 1:11 PM (PST)

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OOOOOOOOH!

Posted by DJ_JUST in New Jersey on July 11, 2003 at 1:55 PM (PST)

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I can smell the patriotism through the monitor. Why dont you americans go watch CNN or tend to your shotguns.

Posted by Stasyna on July 11, 2003 at 4:16 PM (PST)

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Does this mean we can’t burn cd’s? If it does then thats stupid bullcrap. What i learned in school is that we in this country have freedom.

Posted by BigByrd in US on July 11, 2003 at 4:16 PM (PST)

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Stansyna:

Please don’t continue your banter, nothing good is coming of it. Lets have NO Country-bashing, OK?

Posted by mongoos150 on July 11, 2003 at 4:21 PM (PST)

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Stasyna-
REASONS WHY CANADA SUCKS:

Canada has a town named “Dildo”.

There are more doughnut shops than houses.

They want pot legalized, mabye thats because they all smoke it 24/7.

Who actauly gives a damn about Canada?

They all want social acceptance.

They have no army.

They are all drunks.

All their music and entertainment icons are no-talent ### clowns.

Their main exports are ice, maple syrup, and ridiculous accents.

They say “eh” and “aboot” and claim they’re words!

They can’t kick the lousy French off their land.

Not only is it too cold, Toronto is polluted as hell

Where else in the world do civil workers strike for over 2 weeks? I believe no where but Canada.

Canadians do not know how to drive.

I could go on, but you get the idea, eh?

Posted by artful on July 11, 2003 at 4:56 PM (PST)