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Paramount sues to stop loading of DVDs onto iPods

Paramount Pictures has sued Load ‘N Go, a small business that loads DVDs onto video-enabled iPods on behalf of customers. The Electronic Frontier Foundation reports: “According to the suit, Load ‘N Go sells both DVDs and iPods and loads the former onto the latter for customers who purchase both. The company then sends the iPod and the original DVDs to the customer. So the customer has purchased every DVD, and Load ‘N Go just saves them the trouble of ripping the DVD. The movie studios’ suit claims that this is illegal, because ripping a DVD (i.e., decrypting it and making a copy) is illegal under the DMCA. The suit also claims that this constitutes copyright infringement.”

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Correct, ripping dvds is illegal due to the fact you have to crack the copy protection.

People also need to understand you bought a DVD not the movie. You bought a DVD to be played in a DVD player, not the movie to be played anywhere you want.

Posted by nosedive51 on November 17, 2006 at 1:17 PM (CST)


That’s like saying you bought a CD not the album and you should only be able to play it in a CD player and not make a cassette tape of it nor rip it to mp3 and put it on your iPod.  Fair use is fair use- and the DMCA is ridiculous.

Posted by dodo on November 17, 2006 at 1:21 PM (CST)


Ridiculous law or not… that company has to be a special kind of stupid to think they could get away with that.

Posted by ort on November 17, 2006 at 1:34 PM (CST)


They may technically have legal grounds in this, but until Paramount provides an alternate way to get their movies on an iPod, they have no logistical or practical ground to stand on.

Posted by jason on November 17, 2006 at 1:35 PM (CST)


jason, I hope you don’t mean buying the movies from iTunes just to have it on your iPod.

Why pay another $14 to get a movie you already own on DVD into your iPod?

I see no problem in ripping a dvd for the iPod.

Posted by Joseph on November 17, 2006 at 1:47 PM (CST)


there are software out there that allows you to convert dvd into files to be played on your ipod…why pay extra for a company to do that?

Posted by tycol25 on November 17, 2006 at 1:59 PM (CST)


tycol25: The reason is TIME. It can be time-consuming to rip a DVD (this is the most time-consuming step), place it in the format you want (bit rate, frame rate, quality, etc.), import into iTunes, then transfer to iPod. Some people just don’t want to take the time to do all that. Guess this company should’ve thought about the consequences before advertising their services.

Posted by Bearsfan on November 17, 2006 at 2:11 PM (CST)


Whilst I can understand Paramopunts poistion it seems a bit petty and naive. Do they imagine this will stop people putting DVD’s onto iPods and other devices?
What next sue individual users?

As for why pay a company, I can see why people might choose to get a company to do this if they had a lot of DVD’s. After all there are already lots of companies that’ll turn your CD’s to MP3’s.
Personally I would not but can see the attraction.

Posted by Cyberman on November 17, 2006 at 2:15 PM (CST)



1) It is illegal IN THE USA to rip a DVD with encryption (which includes the far majority of purchased DVDs).

2) Of course many people do illegally rip their DVDs assuming it is fair use for them to format the movie, for their own use, as they see fit.  Of course many people don’t (I would say shoudln’t) repurchase a movie just to play it on new technology.

3) This is exactly the case that is necessary to resolve the “fair use” vs DMCA conflict….w/o this type of lawsuit, the issue would never be resolved, and Apple could never add DVD ripping into iTunes.  If the lawsuit goes well (and for me that is limiting the DMCA to allow personal ripping) then expect Apple and others to support powerful ripping solutions in the future.

Let’s hope the EFF lawyers help “Load N Go” out. This is a very important case!

Posted by taffinito on November 17, 2006 at 2:28 PM (CST)


I agree this is an important case. We should have the right to transfer our media from one form to another. When we buy a product we buy rights to that intellectual property. We should have the right to play it on any medium we want… As long as it was bought and not being distributed illegally… what’s the problem?

Posted by Glorybox3737 on November 17, 2006 at 2:46 PM (CST)


I hope so too, taffinto.  It’s an issue that will be paramount (pun minorly intended) in the next few years as portable video players get bigger popularity wise, and DVDs fade away, with their HD counterparts.  I have faith in the EFF though.

Posted by papayaninja on November 17, 2006 at 2:46 PM (CST)


So why do you think Paramount is doing this?

Maybe their getting ready to sell their movies on itunes???  Maybe?

And what us to buy them on iTunes, trying to force us to by a single movie twice, first in DVD format and then on iTunes or any other on-line media service.  I’m pretty sure this is what it comes down too why else make a fuss over this now.

Several companies have been doing this since the release of the 5G iPod.

Posted by 3rdEye on November 17, 2006 at 3:19 PM (CST)


Regardless of what everythings thinks we SHOULD be able to do or what we feel is right, ripping copy protected DVD’s to a computer IS in fact ILLEGAL.  You can’t have a business built on that and expect to get away with it.

I knew this was gonna happen when they first announced they were doing it.

Posted by iScott on November 17, 2006 at 4:03 PM (CST)


f*** paramount, f*** riaa, and f*** mpaa, they can all go to hell i support anyone against them they want to play god anyway

Posted by James on November 17, 2006 at 4:36 PM (CST)


Paramount are just getting worried about ripping DVDs because they are losing millions at the box office.  How about they start making movies people will actually want to see instead of trying to squeeze every last penny out of consumers for the crap they’ve already bought.

Posted by Chahk on November 17, 2006 at 5:02 PM (CST)


Of course they don’t want you converting movies to other formats! Just think of the countless millions they’ve made from people buying DVDs of films they already owned on VHS or even DVDs they lost or damaged. If a customer can just rip a file to their hard drive they may never again be interested in buying that film again. There is far more money to be made from rereleasing older films than in producing new films. Think of all the movies that have been rereleased over and over. If every time a new format comes out, customers could simply reformat a previously puchased version, the industry would loose big bucks. Shure you can’t reformat a DVD to HD-DVD/Blueray, but once everyone had their fav movie on those formats they would possibly be done buying that film for good. I believe in “fair use” but the term only means as much as we(the people) allow it to mean. If we continue to let industry pay the Federal Govt. (through lobbying and campaign contributions) to inact legislation that industry (in many cases) wrote themselves, then our rights will continue to be fewer and fewer. It’s not about electing Remocrats or Depublicans. It’s about holding whoever is elected responsible to the public and not just to the private industries who fund their political careers and hire their family members to be their lobyists.

Posted by T.S. on November 17, 2006 at 5:13 PM (CST)


Big difference—you are not getting paid to put the content onto the iPods…  Load ‘N Go is…

Posted by mflat5 on November 17, 2006 at 5:16 PM (CST)


mflat5 is correct; Load ‘N Go is profiting from what is technically an illegal activity. Until the courts decide otherwise, Load ‘N Go is breaking the law.

Posted by flatline response on November 17, 2006 at 7:19 PM (CST)


It is not illegal to back up media or change formats. It is illegal to distribute. Meaning you can only use one at a time legally. So you “shouldn’t” be watching it one your ipod while someone else watches the dvd.
Out of principle, one should never have to pay for more than one hard copy of any media.

Posted by ali on November 17, 2006 at 7:22 PM (CST)


just because someone tells you that you shouldn’t do something does not make it illegal. Paramount is making a horrible decision here. Ive never met anyone that thinks it is ok to repurchase a movie because of a format issue. Just because copying allows you to distribute does not mean I, and almost all of you, are going to. I mean talk about UNfair use.

Posted by Ali on November 17, 2006 at 7:30 PM (CST)

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