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Report: Terrorists planned to use iPod as detonator

According to CNN, terrorists planned to use iPods to help blow up airliners heading to the U.S. from the U.K. The plotters reportedly were to carry a “British version of Gatorade,” mix it with a gel-like substance to make an explosive, and detonate it with an iPod or cell phone. As is being widely reported today, British authorities arrested two dozen suspects overnight to thwart a massive plot to bring down as many as 10 flights bound for New York, Washington and California. In the U.S., liquids and gels of any kind (except baby formula and medicines) have been banned in carry-on baggage for the time being. Meanwhile, the U.K. has temporarily banned all liquids as well as electronics such as laptops, cell phones and iPods.

Update: While the front page of CNN.com continues to refer to the possible detonating devices as an “iPod or cell phone,” CNN’s latest story on today’s threat refers to only “MP3 players.”

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21

Are you serious? Terrorists were close to bringing down planes with people. Fanatical idealogist were close to killing a thousand more people and a militant caught in Afghanistan lead to these arrests. I can deal with no iPods if it means MY LIFE. This is why it is important that terrorism ends, regardless of the solution (please for pete’s sake don’t start a political debate). If banning electronics and substances must be banned to keep you, your family, your friends and your country men/women from being mudered on a flight, then I say do it.

Corporate Hollywood plan? Yeah, the airlines want to panic people to increase sales. We all know how much terrorism sells tickets on planes from carriers that have been in the red for the past 3 years…

This isn’t one of those funny things to poke fun at. You’d all be upset if this still goes through. It isn’t the first time they’ve tried, remeber the 90’s foiled plan. Wake up people, seriously.

Posted by Mike on August 10, 2006 at 6:29 PM (PDT)

22

The compeition will do anything to stop the sales of iPods.  Even paying terrorists to claim that they were going to use iPods to blow up the plane.  What a crock of sh!t!

Posted by Frank Z on August 10, 2006 at 7:31 PM (PDT)

23

Um the solution in the Gatorade bottles was a hydrogen peroxide solution. It does need a spark to set it off. Also I heard that they planned on using the flashes of disposible cameras to set off the bomb.

Posted by Littleville on August 10, 2006 at 9:06 PM (PDT)

24

Hey Armie did you ever think that the terrorists are not planning on getting of the plane in the first place, they dont need to remote detonate anything as they are going to be with allah and there 30 sum slave virgins when they die they could care less about remote detonation with a cell phone, Although the apple ipod alarm function would work very nicley for a detonator I suppose,

Posted by joshua jones on August 11, 2006 at 12:03 AM (PDT)

25

I heard reports that it was supposed to be set off with the flash of one of those disposable cameras that are like $10,  depending on where you get them from;  guess they will taking those away in airports.

Personally, I really it’s a load of crap and could careless what the media is saying; they are just overhyping the whole iPod thing and in a few weeks there will be something new taking the forefront in the news media.

As far as I am aware, Transport Canada hasn’t banned them yet, only the liquids that these guys were going to be using.

Posted by Melissa on August 11, 2006 at 1:06 AM (PDT)

26

Littleville,
“Um the solution in the Gatorade bottles was a hydrogen peroxide solution.”

I don’t think that the UK security services have confirmed anything about the devices yet and the news services are just mentioning a liquid explosive.
An explosives expert mentioned that one of the family of liquid explosives did not require electrical detonation. The plot possibly involved smuggling the component parts onto the flights in separate containers then combining them all (possibly in the toilet) prior to setting off the devices.

Whatever the facts, I think we have possibly enetered a new era of air travel. Guess we should get used to watching the in flight movies again….

Posted by Bob Levens in UK on August 11, 2006 at 1:31 AM (PDT)

27

There are two issues for banning ipods on a flight.

One is your ability to enjoy the device in-flight. Sorry,but I am not gonna die to listen to my podcasts. I’ll survive w/ whatever entertainment they give me. It’s not ideal but neither is dying.

The second issue is enjoying the ipod at your destination. Maybe metal lockboxes the size of a small PO box could be installed. You place your gadets in there and a crew member locks it. You get access upon landing.

Posted by podstar on August 11, 2006 at 4:28 AM (PDT)

28

According to the TSA site, laptops and other electronic items are still allowed on planes despite what media reports have said.

Posted by Boca on August 11, 2006 at 4:41 AM (PDT)

29

TSA Link attached…

click here

Posted by boca on August 11, 2006 at 4:44 AM (PDT)

30

I believe the restriction of use on electrical devices on flights will be temporary. Can you imagine the number of business users who use the hours in the air to actually do work. If they can’t use laptops they probably won’t fly.
Also there are sources of power on all aircraft. Not hard to find.

Space on aircraft is pretty much limited - providing 300+ ‘safes’ for passengers to use will not happen.

You are not allowed to lock your hold baggage if flying from the US - leave your iPod or laptop or other valuable items in a unsecured bag and it gets stolen I wonder if the insurance will pay up?
No iPod to “enjoy at your destination”...

At the moment flights from the US only have a “NO LIQUIDS OR GELS” policy in force for cabin bags - you can still use your iPod for one leg of the journey.

Posted by Bob Levens in UK on August 11, 2006 at 4:50 AM (PDT)

31

i just saw on cnn that it’s the battery in the ipod that might have been used to cause the explosion.

Posted by funkpod on August 11, 2006 at 5:15 AM (PDT)

32

funkpod,
And a battery in a camera, mobile phone, Gameboy, DVD player, Creative Zen, CD player, Cassette player, laptop or even just a AA battery are all useless?

No, once again the term “iPod” is being used by the press/authorities as a cover all term. So much less dramatic or headline catching if they just used the words “an electronic device”.....

Posted by Bob Levens in UK on August 11, 2006 at 5:57 AM (PDT)

33

that’s exactly why the media and the airlines used “ipod,” because ipod=mp3 player nowadays.  if you go on circuit city’s or best buy’s website, one of the sub menu’s says “ipod and other mp3 players.” 
if i know that ipods were being restricted, i wouldn’t let my child bring their GBA or anything else like that, just so i don’t have to take the risk.

Posted by funkpod on August 11, 2006 at 6:34 AM (PDT)

34

What do you mean you can’t possibly use an IPOD to detonate, of course you can. I’m not going into this any further as I am not going to appear to tell people how something like this is done, suffice to say think of some transmitter products for your IPOD.

Second you’ll be saying that you wouldn’t be able to make a better system than the existing satillite GPS system using IPODs either, well before you do, understand what the British launched earlier this year, yup an IPOD based GPS system that is at least 6 times mnore accuate than the current existing systems.

Think how many people are doing things that IPODs were not entirely designed to do, like running Linux, playing movies on non 5g, with a bit of thought and patience you can fundamentally do pretty much anything, afterall you have a HDD with an area for your OS.

Posted by XOR on August 11, 2006 at 7:03 AM (PDT)

35

the iBoom?

Posted by Christine on August 11, 2006 at 7:18 AM (PDT)

36

you can lock your checked luggage, as long as you have a TSA approved lock. these are combination locks with a key hole at the bottom that only the TSA has the key to.

Posted by mrmojorisingi on August 11, 2006 at 9:18 AM (PDT)

37

it seems these days the iPod has become the scapegoat for everything these days just because it’s the iPod. its total crap!

Posted by mike H on August 11, 2006 at 9:58 AM (PDT)

38

I think we’re jumping to conclusions that the media is saying iPods are being used as iPods.  We don’t know all the facts but the truth is that an actual iPod (not some generic MP3 player or other device) may have been used in the plot.  So the media may not be innacurate in saying iPod.  But who cares.  It just happens to be what they used and I don’t think the media is hyping anything beyond that.  If a bomber used a U-haul truck to blow up a building, U-haul isn’t going to see any damage in their image.

Just relax if iPod is mentioned in the news.  By assuming the media is irresponsible, you’re assuming that you know 100% for sure that the device wasn’t an iPod.  Debating that point is meaningless.

Posted by df57 on August 11, 2006 at 10:15 AM (PDT)

39

Sorry, first sentence was garbled. I meant to say:  I think we’re jumping to conclusions that the media is wrong in saying an iPod was going to be used as a trigger device for a bomb.

Posted by df57 on August 11, 2006 at 10:17 AM (PDT)

40

I just love how everyone here immideately jumps up and yells OMFG you can’t use iPods for bombs!  Er, most iPods have alarm clocks right?  It’d be a simple matter to set the clock, wire a detonation circuit up to the headphone jack and use the iPod as a bomb timer.  Any device with a timer in it can potentially be used to set a bomb off.  Or you could always crack a full size iPod open and replace its innards with a small bomb.  (A 60 gig iPod photo should provide plenty of room) PanAm 103 was blown up with a bomb disguised as a tape recorder.

Of course they’d also have to start confiscating wrist watches.  And mobile phones too…. well I guess there is soem good to come out of this.

Posted by phennphawcks on August 11, 2006 at 10:19 AM (PDT)

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