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RIM co-CEO Balsillie responds to Jobs’ comments

Following yesterday’s statements by Apple CEO Steve Jobs discussing BlackBerry maker Research In Motion, the fact that Apple’s 14.1 million iPhones sold in the September quarter beat RIM’s 12 million handsets sold during the August quarter, and the shortcomings of seven-inch tablets — including RIM’s upcoming BlackBerry Playbook — RIM co-CEO Jim Balsillie has released a statement responding to Jobs, which is reprinted below.

“For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field, we know that 7″ tablets will actually be a big portion of the market and we know that Adobe Flash support actually matters to customers who want a real web experience. We also know that while Apple’s attempt to control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple, developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority of web sites that use Flash. We think many customers are getting tired of being told what to think by Apple. And by the way, RIM has achieved record shipments for five consecutive quarters and recently shared guidance of 13.8 – 14.4 million BlackBerry smartphones for the current quarter. Apple’s preference to compare its September-ending quarter with RIM’s August-ending quarter doesn’t tell the whole story because it doesn’t take into account that industry demand in September is typically stronger than summer months, nor does it explain why Apple only shipped 8.4 million devices in its prior quarter and whether Apple’s Q4 results were padded by unfulfilled Q3 customer demand and channel orders. As usual, whether the subject is antennas, Flash or shipments, there is more to the story and sooner or later, even people inside the distortion field will begin to resent being told half a story.”

[via BGR]

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That the guy even bothers to reply at all shows that they are scared.

Posted by Cameron Talley on October 19, 2010 at 4:55 PM (CDT)


That Jobs bothered to personally attack RIM at all may suggest concern on Apple’s part, as well.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on October 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM (CDT)


This empty suit must not realize that Dingleberries are the toy of the past. Irrelevant and played!  Businesses buy them, people buy iPhone’s and Droids. The only reason that some folks still carry two devices is that the RIM is the digital tether office chosen by OLD PEOPLE (the same reason Windows still holds a dominant market share).  Once the young (25-35 yr old) generation move up in the corporate world RIM and Microsoft are DOOMED!

Posted by Garanimal on October 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM (CDT)


Garanimal you are right on the money. No one cares about RIM or their crapberries. Nothing to see here, move along…

Posted by Bobby on October 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM (CDT)


I find it interesting that RIM would play the “closed ecosystem” card when their business model has been exactly that… their own centrally-positioned data network. RIM has always been proprietary, and now they are knocking Apple for that? They are scared. Silence would’ve been a better choice.

Posted by Ted Wood on October 19, 2010 at 5:28 PM (CDT)


I myself prefer a closed ecosystem. I love to surf the web and encourage my family to do the same but require some certainty that we/I will be free of common exploitations and crap applications.  So far Apple can provide this paranoid freak and self-admitted “non-technical god” the piece of mind that my electric investment will work just about every time I go to use it.  I will buy Apple products as long as they work as expected.  If someone else comes out with something more user friendly and simple to maintain I will buy it.  All of these other giant companies have plenty of chance and capital to make it right but instead choose to go half-way.

Happy to be today’s “turd in the punchbowl”...

Posted by Garanimal on October 19, 2010 at 5:48 PM (CDT)


oooo things are getting heated between these two big shots!

Posted by Clint on October 19, 2010 at 6:01 PM (CDT)


Apple is to be commended for having customers so loyal that they actually take comfort in their anti-competitive business practices. I love my Apple products, but the company already makes billions. All of us will get more reliable products if we make Apple sweat, rather than cheer them on as they dissemble/gloat.

Posted by Chitown on October 19, 2010 at 8:53 PM (CDT)


I assume these numbers represent total sales globally. It’d be interesting to see a comparison of U.S. figures since the iPhone is only available on one of the major carriers, while Blackberrys are available on all four, as well as the regionals.

Posted by Paul on October 19, 2010 at 10:00 PM (CDT)


I just don’t know that any of this matters. Blackberry targeted businesses, which in spite of Garanimal’s idiotic ravings, does not spell their death knell and is a niche that both Google and Apple are ignoring. So long as no one else can offer the sort of security that Blackberry does, they’re going to keep on selling millions of units every single year. Apple and Google have targetted mainstream consumers - they’re both smartphone platforms, but they’re two very different smartphone platforms. It’s like arguing that genuine *nix has a larger install base than Macintosh OS, sure it does, it’s also running the majority of the world’s internet servers while the Mac is used almost exclusively for *personal* computing, almost like comparing the sales numbers for Caterpillar and Ferrari.

Posted by Code Monkey on October 20, 2010 at 7:07 AM (CDT)


Anyone else notice a few too many run-on sentences in this statement.
I think CEO Jim Bastille should have had a copywriter in the PR department vet this statement prior to release.
His grammar portrays a paniked reactionary response to Steve Jobs shitcanning their entire 3-year plan.
The only way someone is going to beat the new improved Apple is to be even more progressive. Conservatism (like RIM and Nokia) and regressionism (like IBM/Lotus and Microsoft) will never work while the market is progressive. Apple is driving that progress and Reactionary companies like Google are powering that drive. The only other progressive company out there is Palm and now that they are caught in the HP Regressive bureaucracy, they would be lucky if they could be called reactionary.

Posted by Dan Woods on October 20, 2010 at 8:23 AM (CDT)


RIM is the Palm of the 2000-teens.

Unless RIM does some serious innovating and updating, they’ll end up acquisition bait, just like Palm.

Doing 2-fer specials may get a few new users and clear stock, but it’s not much of a forward-thinking strategy.

Posted by jeffharris on October 20, 2010 at 9:16 AM (CDT)


RIM will continue to dominate the business market, just as Code Monkey stated. They targeted that side and have stuck with it. That left the door open to the consumer side, which Apple and Google have gladly step in. This really is a non-issue.

With that said, Garanimal’s statement was not idiotic in any way (Really? Idiotic? Have we come to name-calling over an opinion?). There are a lot of consumers that take some comfort in a closed environment. I am not a power user. Even with an Android, I would not be tweaking and configuring beyond a very few basics. That leaves Flash as the only real upside to the Google platform in my personal opinion. The app market is better on the Apple side (especially since they are loosening their grip). Apple is also (again, my opinion) leading in UI and hardware quality. The touchscreen on the iPhone, even the original, still has no equal that I have seen/tried. The fact that a pretty menial antenna design issue became such a huge story just goes to show that Apple has done so many things right, one slight error dominates the headlines. That and the fact that Steve Jobs DOES need to learn to let his PR department earn their pay (“You’re holding it wrong”...c’mon! Just own up to a minor flaw!).

I have absolutely nothing against Google or RIM. They are making products that are better suited to some users. But Apple also makes a damn fine product that suits a market of it’s own. And part of that is it’s walled garden that allows us to believe our product will work as expected with little-to-no tweaking. If you prefer a phone that is ultimately configurable, but also susceptible to quirks/crashes due to your “improvements”...buy a Droid. I simply do not care enough about that “freedom”.

Posted by Mitch on October 20, 2010 at 10:27 AM (CDT)


Give Jim a hockey team already!!!

Posted by RIM on October 20, 2010 at 12:19 PM (CDT)


Mitch: the declaration that MS and RIM will fall just as soon as the 25-35 generation takes over was what prompted the term “idiotic” as such a statement can be nothing other. There was no name calling, I judged the statement. Apple doesn’t have enough increased penetration in that demographic to make the difference of MS’s success.

This is basic math and consumer attitudes. Apple breeds a very intense, non fact base passion in many of their consumers, with the chief problem being the delusion that 90% of the market cares enough about their OS to eschew Windows for the no better Mac OS in the face of cost and software matters. The 3% or so of the population who loves the Mac OS enough to buy it instead of the Windows OS is probably about the same size of people who will make crazy love struck posts about Windows. That the other 90% or so of the world buys Windows because it works just fine and is considerably cheaper is the difference that counts. Apple will never take over the personal computing market any more than they will ever take over the smartphone market, they will simply continue to exist and succeed, but dominate? Not going to happen.

Posted by Code Monkey on October 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM (CDT)


Actually, surprisingly the Blackberry is seeing a lot of uptake amongst the teen crowd, so the idea that it’s only for old corporate folks is actually a fallacy.  It’s generally far easier to get an inexpensive Blackberry and even put it on a pay-as-you-go plan than it is to get an iPhone which is outside of the price range of most teens. Since most teens tend to be texting-fanatics the hardware keyboard is a big draw, and RIM’s Blackberry Messenger (BBM) has become quite likely the biggest viral draw of the whole thing—because it’s a closed system (heh). Basically, once a few teens are on BBM, all of their friends need to buy Blackberries as well in order to remain part of the social circle.

The idea of “one-device-to-do-it-all” seems to be unimportant to the younger generation as well.  Most of the kids I’ve talked to don’t seem too concerned about having to carry an iPod for their music and a Blackberry for their communication needs.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on October 21, 2010 at 9:53 AM (CDT)


#16: “The idea of “one-device-to-do-it-all” seems to be unimportant to the younger generation as well.”

I think that’s because the old adage “Jack-of-all-trades and master-of-none” is still relevant. I love the iPhone for all its connectivity and apps and for video, but I find it inadequate as a music player. What do I love about my iPod Classic? First, capacity. I travel a lot and want as much of my music with me as possible. Second, the click wheel interface. I can pause the music without having to turn on the screen, unlock it, and then finally see and hit pause “button”.

Posted by sallenmd on October 22, 2010 at 12:21 AM (CDT)

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