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Stereophile: Copy protected CDs don’t play nice with iPods
By Dennis Lloyd
Publisher, iLoungeGoogle+
Published: Monday, October 20, 2003
News Categories: Digital Media
“Whether listeners like it or not, record labels, including major players like BMG and Arista Records, are now making moves to rein in how their CDs are played and used. Unfettered CDs have been on the shelves for almost two decades, and some industry observers note that changing how they work at this late stage could be a recipe for trouble with consumers. [...]
One major drawback of the restricted disks, however, is non-compatibility with the Apple iPod. Since the new discs are based on SunnComm’s MediaMax, which itself is rooted in Microsoft’s Digital Rights Management (DRM) applications, the brochure leaves it up to iPod owners to read between the lines, explaining only, “It will play on any device that supports Windows Media DRM.”
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Hey guys, some of you are lucky, that you are not living in Germany, because 90% of all CD we are able to buy are copy protected.
Just last week I had a problem with the new DIDO CD the protection is that terrible that even the BOSE system wouldn’t play the CD without major sound “cracks”.
I brought the CD back and got my money back, I think now even more people will use Legal or illegal download applications to get their music on the iPod.
And all because of the Record companies which leave the “Redbook” standard of Philips & Co.
Posted by Fab82 on October 21, 2003 at 1:02 PM (PST)
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just as fast as they encrypt these discs there will be software to decrypt them look at dvds they were supposed to be secure!
Posted by b on October 21, 2003 at 6:40 PM (PST)
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Christianicononev.2 states : “Apparently BMG still haven’t learned their lessons the last time they tried this in 2000 with N-Sync’s CD. It wouldn’t play in any configuration,and the end result was over three million pissed off consumers worldwide…....”
and so many more people rejoiced in the fact that large quantities of bad music was not to be subjected upon their ears!!
But seriously, I have bought three copy protected cd’s and not one of them has stopped me from doing anything I wanted to with it. I’ve ripped, played, burned and copied without a hassel. And if I did have problems, the CD would be returned and the music downloaded. Don’t see what the drama is. It’s the record companies who will loose out - they spend time and money developing protection that’s busted wide open by the time it hit’s shelves. They will never win. Consumers control the market. Make CD’s to expensive and we download. Copy protect CD’s, we downloador hack with a dirty taste in our mouths.
JohnnyRad
“Music Is Life”
Posted by pop_music_bites_ on October 21, 2003 at 7:46 PM (PST)
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Christianicononev.2 states : “Apparently BMG still haven’t learned their lessons the last time they tried this in 2000 with N-Sync’s CD. It wouldn’t play in any configuration,and the end result was over three million pissed off consumers worldwide…....”
and so many more people rejoiced in the fact that large quantities of bad music was not to be subjected upon their ears!!
But seriously, I have bought three copy protected cd’s and not one of them has stopped me from doing anything I wanted to with it. I’ve ripped, played, burned and copied without a hassel. And if I did have problems, the CD would be returned and the music downloaded. Don’t see what the drama is. It’s the record companies who will loose out - they spend time and money developing protection that’s busted wide open by the time it hit’s shelves. They will never win. Consumers control the market. Make CD’s to expensive and we download. Copy protect CD’s, we downloador hack with a dirty taste in our mouths.
JohnnyRad
“Music Is Life”
Posted by pop_music_bites_ on October 21, 2003 at 7:46 PM (PST)
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pop_music-bites:Point taken,and there was no drama.There was a larger point:It is incredibly stupid to claim victimization when you engage in tactics that are pretty much designed to alienate the customer.It’s really stupid to do the same thing attempted two years ago,only to have it threaten to blow up in your face again.Dido’s new CD is a case in point. Some people can’t get it to play on a regular CD player,much less a computer. Sure,there are ways to hack the watermark,but there are a lot of people who may not be aware of how to do it.Or care.All they know is they paid good money for something that might as well be an expensive coaster.
Furthermore, poor mouthing to Congress and getting laws passed that kick money back to you,and then turn around and using technology to double dip,and dictate how to use something that you paid for?There is something seriously wrong,not to mention unethical . BMG doesn’t help it’s cause when they have one of its execs say that if they could they would fix it so you couldn’t make any copies.
In the end,you reap what you sow.
Posted by Christianicononev.2 on October 22, 2003 at 8:16 AM (PST)
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MediaMax has since been upgraded. Yes, I can disable it with a shift key, but any attempts to rip it results in distortion of the sound by their friggin’ MediaMax. I was able to rip it to WMA, but what good is WMA to me with the iPod? This is frustrating. My only other option is to rip it as a wav file and go through the tedious process of editing down one huge WAVE file to a song. BMG (the company) can suck my iPod!
Posted by sendmichael in Los Angeles, CA on March 13, 2005 at 8:22 PM (PST)
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