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The iPod mini is a hot seller

“‘The demand is incredible,’ says Wahrman at J&R, who had 25 of the silver minis left in stock Thursday. Best Buy and Amazon, on their Web sites, said they were sold out. Savvy entrepreneurs were auctioning minis on eBay with starting bids ranging from $299 to $310.

On its Web site, Apple tells shoppers to expect a one- to three-week wait. ‘We’re asking people to be patient with us,’ says Greg Joswiak, Apple marketing vice president.

It’s not a component shortage that’s causing the backlog. ‘We’re making and shipping them as fast as we can,’ Joswiak says. He says teens are taking to the cool colors. And the mini is appealing to athletic fans, who like exercising with an ultralight device.”

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I belive it there so i cool im glad i got my gold one!

Posted by PG Dawg in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 9:42 AM (CST)


Nothing at *all* to do with the muvos being basically impossible to find and people wanting to rip out the $500 hard drives, I’m sure.

Posted by JC in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 10:41 AM (CST)


“Wahrman calls Creative’s MuVo2 “the iPod mini killer.” Like the mini, it also has 4 GB of storage. The Rio Nitrus is 1.5 GB. “I just got in the MuVo2 and sold my entire order the first weekend, all 540 of them,” he says.”

What a ridiculous statement.  There is absolutely nothing out there that is an iPod mini killer!  Does the MuVo2 do iTMS?  These “experts” and such always seems to ignore the fact that with the iPod and iPod mini you are buying into the seamless iTMS experience as well.

Posted by The Raven in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 10:46 AM (CST)


you’re assuming that itunes is a standard—that people actually want that “iTMS experience” that others have bought into. what if i thought the iTMS experience was crap? why would i want that kind of experience?

Posted by eh in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 11:11 AM (CST)


Well, eh…

I never said that iTunes is a standard, but if you want to take that route, then by Microsoft’s standards, it is a standard!  It has the “market share”, so I guess it is the defacto standard.

You can choose whichever experience you want. Go buy your cheap MuVo2 if that is your bag.  You may find iTMS to be crap, but most of the market ain’t on your side.

Hey, I’ve got a “What if?” for you:  What if you decide to think before you type?

Posted by The Raven in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 11:26 AM (CST)


Saying something is an “ipod killer” just because it has the same size hard drive is weak.  I bought my iPod and iPod mini because of the exceptional design and attention to detail Apple gives all their products.  I, for one, enjoy using well-designed products.  The world could use more of them.

Posted by Michael Sherman in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 11:58 AM (CST)


The iTMS may be the market leader in online music stores, but it’s the market leader in a market that is a small fraction of the overall music market.  Most people that buy mp3 players don’t buy much music online and I doubt it’s a big factor in purchasing decisions.  The average consumer probably has no idea that there are different formats between the different online music stores.  I don’t buy music online because I think it’s overpriced for what you get.

Posted by wickerbill in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 12:08 PM (CST)


Down to 54% in the most recent survey. Apparently Napster is having an impact.

Maybe it will go back up. Maybe Napster will go bust. Or maybe iTMS will end up with around 30% market share, with the market split between iTMS, Napster, O2, and so on?

In any case, there is no money in selling downloads. The subscription model is a much better money earner - and Napster offers both.

I predict that within a year, no matter what Mr Jobs says now, iTMS will offer a subscription plan in addition to its current single-fee plan.

Posted by iTMS MarketShare in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 12:26 PM (CST)


You’d have to be a real idiot to think the iTMS was crap.  Can you think of anything that works better?

Posted by george dubya bush in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 12:54 PM (CST)


Posted by eric in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 1:23 PM (CST)


actually…the mini’s drive can be removed but there has been trouble getting it to work correctly due to the firmware in the mini formatting the drive oddly or something to that effect (

to all the people who still slag the mini….

you obviously can’t see around you to not notice at least one a day whether its at a gym or someone jogging.

Where all the people who said the mini will bust? exactly.

the MuVo is everywhere around here (new england) and the mini is nowhere to be found.

go outside and play and wait for apple to release another item for you to be negative about because right now you’re batting ZERO.

Posted by regalbegal in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 2:00 PM (CST)


Scary thought #1:

Whats going to happen when Apple is expected to release 1000’s of these little babies into the global marketplace??

perhaps this will be a nice little learning curve for apple senior managers who have never had to experience the job of fulfilling a global marketplace with a killer product.

either way you look at it, not being able to fulfill demand is going to be big negative for the company. consider that Sony has sold 80 million mini disc players, theres a bagload of revenue out there not being collected right now and this is where apples competitors will be able to take advantage of the music hard drive business.

I hope apple has selected the right manufacturers for this product who are going to be able to ramp up production fourfold with only a few weeks notice.

as an apple shareholder, i’m keeping my fingers crossed.

Posted by stevo in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 5:38 PM (CST)


The guy at J and R thinks that the MuVo2 buyers are using them to play music! How clueless. How many 4GB Microdrives are being sold on ebay? And how many MuVos without HDs are being sold? A lot—Trust me.

Posted by Questioner in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 6:01 PM (CST)


iTMS Marketshare,

Working for Napster, huh?  I’ve been reading quite a bit about Napster’s troubles.  So, your theory ain’t gonna fly with me.  See below…

“Napster had struck a deal with HP shortly before its launch that would have seen the music service arrive pre-installed on HP computers, but “HP suddenly—and without explanation—returned Napster’s $250,000 check and canceled the agreement,” reports The San Jose Mercury News. HP, of course, would later partner with Apple. This is just one of the blows that Napster 2.0 has suffered since its inception. The company lost $15 million in its first two months of operation, has seen several executives depart, and the latest data shows Napster 2.0 only holding 12 percent of the online music business, compared to Apple’s 56 percent.”

Posted by The Raven in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 7:44 PM (CST)


Hey, iTMS MarketShare, here’s more from Business Week…

“Another year, another heap of trouble for online-music pioneer Napster—or so it seems. When the law closed in on the renegade music file-sharer a few years ago, Bertelsmann snapped up the brand, figuring it could turn the infamous kitty logo into a cash cow. No such luck. 

Then came Roxio (ROXI ). Last October, soon after buying the Napster brand name out of bankruptcy, the PC software maker unveiled a legit, for-pay online music site called Napster 2.0. Roxio CEO Christopher Gorog felt it could be every bit as influential as the infamous file-swapping site of old, largely because he felt the Napster name would quickly put Roxio on a par with digital music superstar Apple (AAPL ).

So far, it hasn’t worked out that way. Napster remains a distant second in market share to Apple’s (AAPL ) popular iTunes service. And management upheaval at Roxio has raised fears about Napster’s future once again. Just days after the launch, respected Universal Music executive Lawrence Kenswil resigned his seat on Roxio’s board. Since then, a stream of executives—including Roxio Chief Financial Officer Elliot Carpenter and Napster division President Mike Bebel—have left as well.

All this has spooked investors, who have driven Roxio’s shares from $10.50 at the time of the launch to around $3.80 as of Feb. 26. “I’m not willing to say Napster is toast, but there’s certainly a lot of smoke,” says Gartner G2 analyst Mike McGuire.”

Posted by The Raven in Irvine, CA on March 5, 2004 at 8:05 PM (CST)


i dont get whats soooo kool about the mini ipod?? its only 4 GB??

Posted by yooo in Irvine, CA on March 6, 2004 at 9:38 AM (CST)


ahhhh but it’s not just about capacity u see! It the total package.

Posted by noogaBOOGA in Irvine, CA on March 6, 2004 at 3:19 PM (CST)


have you tried working out with the ipod mini? its amazing. you dont even feel the sucker, and the wheels really easy to change a song on the fly. i went running, biking, and erging with this thing. im spoiled now, nothing will match it. the only thing that even comes close to the ipod mini in workout comfort is sony/phillips running radio, which is about the size of half an egg. the ipod mini may not appeal to techies, but to workout buffs and casual users, its amazing. get one and go run with it. then try running with a regular ipod. the difference is night and day. running with a regular ipod is almost as bad as running with a cd player.

Posted by tina in Irvine, CA on March 6, 2004 at 5:39 PM (CST)


The MuVo^2 was release in January and was sold out even ‘til now.  So many webmerchants have had backorders for weeks.  The exploit of using the 4GB MD (MicroDrive) in the MuVo^2 on dSLR cameras (founded by Andy Mack) was an incredible story!  I for one, bought the MuVo^2 just for this purpose.  Most people who by the MuVo^2 by it either for the MD to take out or as an alternative to the iPod Mini.  *Note: You can revive the MuVo^2 with smaller CF cards or other MD’s. Many have been successful with SanDisk 512MB CF card and the IBM 1GB MD*. People who buy the iPod Mini also want to extract 4GB MD for cameras to, BUT unfortunately no one has yet been successful in doing so.  The MD from the iPod Mini reads/writes in IDE-Mode only (a modification made by Hitachi after the MuVo^2 incident) to prevent users from using the 4GB MD on cameras (which only read/write in I/O-Mode).

So, people with iPod Mini’s end up with just iPod Mini’s.  If people bought it as a music device, then that’s great!  Otherwise, if you’re like some of the hundreds who buy it for the MD to use on their dSLR camera, then you’re out of luck.

I wouldn’t call the MuVo^2 an ‘iPod Mini’ killer b/c it’s basically like the iPod Mini.  I think a better term would be the ‘iPod Mini Alternative’.

In the end, both are selling fast and furiously like hot cakes!  Power to both.

Posted by MuVo^2 User in Irvine, CA on March 7, 2004 at 10:11 AM (CST)


I waited for muvo2 for a long time and still showed backorder.  so I ordered the ipod mini from instead.  got it in 4 days… has ipod mini in stock most of the time, so you guys who is looking to buy one, will have better chance to score one there..

Posted by apexi350z in Irvine, CA on March 7, 2004 at 7:59 PM (CST)

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