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The Pros and Cons of iPod Video: iLounge Podcast 15

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By Jeremy Horwitz

Editor-in-Chief, iLounge
Published: Thursday, October 13, 2005
News Categories: Podcasting

imageIs the first video iPod any good? A big mistake? iLounge editors Jeremy Horwitz (in Irvine, California) and Bob Levens (in Cambridge, U.K.) started out with markedly different opinions on iPod video features before Apple Computer’s announcement of the fifth-generation iPod yesterday, but now they’ve changed their minds. Listen to the fifteenth iLounge Week in Review podcast to hear these two editors express their views on the new iPod, and learn all about its new features and omissions. Yesterday’s special breaking news podcast from San Jose, California is also still available for download.

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I’m not sure what Bob is talking about when he says Apple had iTMS pricing at 99p then when it launched reduced it to 79p.  Daveoc64 is absolutely correct in both his points.

The problem is when you say things like this they get into the public consciousness as “fact” when they’re not. 

Bob hasn’t pointed out that BECAUSE we pay our TV license (which funds the mammoth BBC and would be like American’s being forced to pay for a giant NPR), we get a lot of TV that is already commercial free.  The BBC already provides downloads of some of its programs (for free).  It would not be hard to see access to the BBC archives via the iTMS, and that (for UK viewers) the cost might be LESS than £1.89.  Let’s hope (and why was the UK 5G iPod announcement made at BBC headquarters?).

Let’s also remember that Apple doesn’t make (much) money from the iTMS - it is there to promote sales of the iPod.  Why it should want to have a different model in the UK is just conspiracy theory!  It is being forced to price this way because of the greedy labels again exercising their monopoly powers due to ineffective EU legislation at ensuring a single market and effective competition.  The £1.89 is a CONSIDERABLE increase over US prices, even allowing for VAT included in UK prices and sales tax being EXCLUDED from US prices.  While I thought the quality was BETTER than I might have expected for the resolution offered, I would only consider mass purchase of music videos if the format was at least DVD quality (including 5.1 sound).  There is no reason why the labels could not make substantially more money this way than they do today via physical sales, with little or no downside risk on pirating.

Posted by Ian on October 17, 2005 at 3:48 AM (PDT)

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Ian,
My point is not getting over here - when iTunes Music Store was first mooted for the UK there was a discussion about the pricing. It was initially thought in the press etc, that the price per song would be a direct 99c to 99p transfer. When iTMS was then officially launched it was at 79p per song.
I’m not saying it was at any time 99p - just that it was raised as a possible price. I’m sorry that I seem to have caused confusion over what was meant as another pointer at how we pay in ££‘s to what (almost) folk in the US pay in $$‘s. Next time I’ll not say anything wink

I didn’t go into what the Licence Fee covers because it was just mentioned and we moved on. We get a lot for the £126 if you really look at it. I mean the frequency of ads on the commercial channels is becoming too much - 8 mins into a programme? It used to be after 20 mins. So in some ways I am happy to pay £126 just to have ad free TV.
And I am aware of what else that £126 funds - http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/

You could argue that as we have paid once for the BBC programmes should we pay again to have it available for playing back on an iPod?

Why did Apple launch at the BBC at the same time? My theory is that the BBC recently announced it would make old TV and radio shows available for download - would this mean downloading via iTMS or free via the BBC website? If it is free it sort of defeats having it available for purchase on iTMS.


EDIT:
I knew I had not dreamt this UK iTMS price issue - “The precise size of the Apple library is unknown, but songs are expected to cost 99p each in the UK” from Apple iTunes ‘set for UK launch’ on the BBC News Online dated Monday, 7 June, 2004

..and from elsewhere -
Pricing for Apple’s service is likely to be within the £0.86-£1.09 per track
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=8839

UK iTunes poll: 99p too pricey for most
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=8873

While Apple’s pricing plan is as of yet unknown, it is likely to be around £0.89-1.09 per song in the UK.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20040607-3850.html

Individual songs are likely to cost 99p and albums less than pounds 10, to encourage “impulse” sales.
http://newyorkguide.blogs.com/psfk/2004/06/ipod_launches_i.html

Posted by Bob Levens in UK on October 19, 2005 at 8:16 AM (PDT)

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