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Update: iPod Software 1.3 vs. 2.0

iLoungers in our forums are disappointed that iPod Software 1.3 is missing most of the new features which will debut in new iPods (iPod Software 2.0). Windows users are out of luck all together until Apple releases an update for Windows iPod. A sad fact for owners of 1st and 2nd generation iPods. We have requested that iLoungers voice their opinion on this matter by sending Apple feedback and request new features to be supported in older iPods.

Update: We have replaced our comparison of features with Apple’s recently posted KnowledgeBase Document comparing iPod Software 2.0 and 1.3. For a complete list of features, click the “Read more” link below.

iPod 2.0 and 1.3: Software Version Comparison

iPod Software 2.0

iPod Software 2.0 includes these features and functions:

  • Improved interface The menu system includes new and reorganized commands.
  • On-The-Go Playlist You can create a temporary playlist directly on iPod.
  • Improved Clock Menu All clock settings are accessible in one location for easy access.
  • Alarm Clock You can set an alarm to go off at a specified time.
  • To-Do Lists Viewing iCal to-do lists can be viewed on iPod.
  • Notes iPod can store and view notes (text files).
  • Games Includes three games.
  • Customizable Main Menu You can decide which menu options appear in the main menu.
  • Backlight Menu Command You can turn on and off the backlight from a menu command.
  • Rating Songs You can rate songs on iPod.
  • Updating Smart Playlists Smart Playlists update on iPod and sync back to iTunes.
  • AAC File Playback iPod plays back AAC (.m4a and .m4p) files.
  • Disconnect Message Removed The “OK to disconnect” message no longer appears.
  • Improved iPod Software Updater You can update and restore without disconnecting and reconnecting iPod.
  • NotesOnly (also known as “Museum Mode) Allows for complete customization of the entire menuing system. Example uses include using iPod in museums and kiosks. See the Apple Developer website (http://developer.apple.com/hardware/ipod/index.html) for more information.

iPod Software 1.3

iPod Software 1.3 includes these features and functions:

  • Backlight Menu Choice A menu command has been added to turn on and off the backlight.
  • AAC File Playback iPod plays back AAC (.m4a and .m4p) files.
  • Battery Improvements Includes the battery improvements that were introduced with iPod Software 1.2.6.

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Comments

1

You’re forgetting one important thing with 2.0 features: future software upgrades to improve the ipod even further, though Apple is slow with firmware updates.

Posted by Phil on April 30, 2003 at 2:08 PM (CDT)

2

What do you mean-
“Windows users are out of luck all together until Apple releases an update for Windows iPod.”?
Windows users with new iPods have all of the things that Mac users with new iPods have except the music service.

Posted by mongoos150 in Tucson, AZ on April 30, 2003 at 2:13 PM (CDT)

3

It is unconscionable for Apple to exclude early adopters (the ones who have made the iPod the success that Mr. Jobs is so fond of bragging about) from a working, fundamental playqueue.  Shame on them.

If they’re planning to implement a playqueue for iPod v1 and v2 users, I wish they’d come out and say so, because at this point, it’s… pathetic…

c.c.r.

Posted by c.c.r. in Seattle, WA on April 30, 2003 at 2:25 PM (CDT)

4

What do you mean-
“Windows users are out of luck all together until Apple releases an update for Windows iPod.”?
Windows users with new iPods have all of the things that Mac users with new iPods have except the music service.

Correction: Windows users with old iPods are out of luck all together until Apple releases iPod Software 1.3 for Windows.

Posted by Dennis Lloyd in Irvine, CA on April 30, 2003 at 3:15 PM (CDT)

5

“It is unconscionable for blah blah blah…”

I never understand this complaint. There is no computer product that is not quickly obsolete by new models. This simply a fact. Whining is free I guess, but does it make you feel better? Better to learn to accept reality: you want new features, you gotta upgrade.

Posted by Jeremy Roush in Santa Monica, California on April 30, 2003 at 3:40 PM (CDT)

6

I can understand the need to upgrade because of hardware changes, but I think Apple can make the software changes available to ALL iPod users, not just those who buy the new iPods with iPod Software 2.0 installed. Unless of course the new software 2.0 is taking advantage of the new hardware… possibly the processor that the new iPods are using??

Posted by Dennis Lloyd in Irvine, CA on April 30, 2003 at 5:28 PM (CDT)

7

I would guess its combo of both business choices and the new hardware’s capabilities. Faster processor, more RAM.

Posted by Jeremy Roush in Santa Monica, California on April 30, 2003 at 5:33 PM (CDT)

8

I would even understand if they told us that they couldn’t give us the software upgrades because of hardware limitations. One example of this would be the scroll-wheel to touch-wheel change. This is an obvious physical limitation of the old models, and no one complains. However, all they have told us is that they just won’t do it.

Let me ask you a question, Jeremy: would you be upset if they made a v.2 upgrade for the first and second gen iPods? I seriously doubt anyone would complain. It would only reap a benefit for Apple.

If the only reason they won’t release an upgrade is because they don’t want to (which they have given us no reason to believe otherwise), then I say shame on them. This is bad form.

Aaron

Posted by Aaron Mickelson on April 30, 2003 at 6:46 PM (CDT)

9

Guys, apple is a business.  They gotta put food on their plate too.  No one bitched that they didn’t get all the new features of windows 98 for free because they bought windows 95 3 years ago.  Why?  its ridiculous to think your entitled to features of another product because you bought a previous generation product.  Be grateful they even included AAC support in the update for free.

Irritated Second Generation iPod owner,


Joshua Byers

Posted by js2byers in USA on April 30, 2003 at 9:17 PM (CDT)

10

I believe if Apple could of released the 2.0 software for the 1st or 2nd gen iPods they would have.  Supporting two different pieces of software is a pain and they would probably try to avoid it if possible.

I agree with Jeremy.  Hardware changes and changes often.  These often means the new software won’t work on old models.  Get used to it.

Posted by Diran on April 30, 2003 at 11:14 PM (CDT)

11

Well I see from this practice there is no value in buying a new ipod.. I’ll have to look back at Creative… They relesed the Nomad Zen and also released a 3.0 firmware to add all of the possible features from the Zen into the original Jukebox… thats customer care.

Posted by MusclePup on May 1, 2003 at 1:13 AM (CDT)

12

MusclePup, and that is probably why Creative’s MP3 players are second rate trash compared with Apple’s.  You get what you pay for.

Regards,


Joshua Byers

Posted by js2byers in USA on May 1, 2003 at 2:24 AM (CDT)

13

“Be grateful they even included AAC support in the update for free.”

Well they pretty much had to do this or they wouldn’t have a music service.  If the old iPods were out there and couldn’t play AAC, then Apple wouldn’t have much of a market for their music service.  Don’t kid yourself or say that we should be grateful they “gave” this to us.  They did it for business reasons.

I wonder if this will spawn a new software segment.  I can see people starting to write open source software for the iPod to replace the Apple software.

Posted by Eric on May 1, 2003 at 5:47 AM (CDT)

14

> MusclePup, and that is probably why Creative’s MP3 players are second rate trash compared with Apple’s. You get what you pay for

Wait ... so Apple doesn’t get you what you pay for ? That’s a nice way to sell products :p

>  I wonder if this will spawn a new software segment. I can see people starting to write open source software for the iPod to replace the Apple software

Well, as an avid Linux-user, i’ll just be waiting for that Linux-On-Ipod project to have a decent roll-out ...

BTW, i don’t NEED an alarm clock, i don’t NEED 2 more games (let alone me playing the one on there), i don’t NEED that frikkin’ Calendar or whatever non-music-related application they want to put on the iPod ... my sole request for those first and second generation adopters out there ... i’ve got 4 words for Apple : Playlist-on-the-go

This is NOT the way they’re gonna get me into the Apple way of life ...
Switch ? I don’t think so :)

Posted by Oenie in Belgium on May 1, 2003 at 6:47 AM (CDT)

15

Maybe if everyone with a ipod under a year old returned it with a “fault” Apple might look at a firmware upgrade in a different light? :P

Posted by eyez on May 1, 2003 at 7:04 AM (CDT)

16

>MusclePup, and that is probably why Creative’s MP3 players are second rate trash compared with Apple’s. You get what you pay for.

I owned a Jukebox 1 and sold it for an ipod. I agree that the jukebox was big and bulky and had shity battary life but I new about these hardware limits when I bought it.  I’m saying that creative as a company gave its users almost every feature they asked for in firmware updates.  I don’t think iPods need all of the features the Nomad products have (There are to many) but not even the basics like Play Queues, what was Apple thinking?

Posted by MusclePup on May 1, 2003 at 9:26 AM (CDT)

17

I guess everyone is just angry (well I am) because we have all be hanging out for apple to finally release some decent software for the ipod.. i mean seriously the original stuff sucked… no playlist on the go, no track renaming/deleting… nobody wants a stupid calender, clock (which would be ok if it didnt drain battery 24/7) contacts etc all of which i have never used.
And I dont think anyone knew that this new ipod was coming out… This was obviously kept quiet because who would buy the older ipods if a new one was coming out in a few months….
Yes it is true that IT stuff goes obsolete quickly… but as far as I’m concerned they never really finished the older ipods… to be waiting for this software update (especially since the last few updates are full of useless features) and then see it be made only for new ipods is crap

It would be nice if they made a decent remote too - nobody complains about sony md’s becoming obsolete because they are fully featured

Posted by Jay on May 4, 2003 at 6:55 AM (CDT)

18

Also whats sad is that apple is trying to sell the new ipods as a new product…. Do you think that when they finished designing the new ipod, they looked at how much better and improved it was physically (practically not at all - the remote is still lame, same size, they moved the buttons and threw in a docking station), and decided they better make it look better by only giving the new software to the new model.. sad sad sad

Posted by Jay on May 4, 2003 at 7:05 AM (CDT)

19

I have a new 15gb ipod that I use with Windows.  Does anyone know how to make the alarm go off to music instead of the “beep”.  I can find no reference of it anywhere, and the Apple documentation is entirely too simplistic.

Posted by mike on May 13, 2003 at 8:04 PM (CDT)

20

Is there any date set for a windows release of v 1.3?

Posted by H.B. in n/a on May 20, 2003 at 5:48 PM (CDT)

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