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I think people are being a little too harsh on Bose here. They do make quality products, but they don’t quite stack up when you compare them against other products in their price range. Saying they sound like $15 speakers though is the most ridiculous exaggeration I’ve heard in a long time though.

Posted by Nathan on September 1, 2004 at 3:42 AM (PDT)

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bose = better off w/ something else.

bose blows.  you’re better off donating your money to chairty instead of blowing absurd amounts for crap.

Posted by chris on September 1, 2004 at 4:42 AM (PDT)

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No highs no lows must be Bose

Posted by winegirl on September 1, 2004 at 4:54 AM (PDT)

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my setup isnt just for my ipod - its for my music(digital) , xbox(dolby digital) hdtv(dolby digital), replaytv(digital), but definitely geared more to the music for me.

funny u mention the 801’s - im thinking of upgrading - the 601’s i got right out of college - now that i a year has passed - income is pretty steady and good.

u know a few friends do own bose - and they are happy with it - i heard the systems - as one poster put it - the sound is deceiving - they just arent familiar with all the other high end stuff out there - and im not saying u need 2 spend more than abose system - theres comparable speakers for the same price that are great (paradigm) and as somewhat of an audiophile i dont believe ill be staying with the ipod family of products - no digital out - not to mention no specs on SNR -
by the way u guys are on CRACK if u think that bose ipod thing looks good - its hidious.

Posted by gabe on September 1, 2004 at 5:00 AM (PDT)

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for all you trash talking adolescents who are on a beer budget, i say dont write about your comments about our bose systems. please know that just because you CANT afford something like a bose product that you spread you blasphemous complaints that bose is “not good”. dont you realize that you get what you pay for, and yes you aint gettin bose cuz you CANT pay for it. Why dont you save your quarters for the 99 dollar sony travel speakers, or the creative labs 70 dollar pair, or shoot why dont you invest your school loans into the new inmotion speakers. But spare us your uninformed announcements that Bose systems dont sound good. Bose has the best noise reduction headsets in the market (quiet comfort 2) and they make the best wave radio with tiny speakers and BIG sound. So get off your rockers and dont utter a breath about what you think bose sounds good or not good to you, dont buy it then and leave it for us audiophile with taste and who have the money to spend on the only quality speakers that will be for apples ipod.

Posted by apple man on September 1, 2004 at 5:20 AM (PDT)

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“you’ve obviously never heard anything through a good bose system.”

of course not. There aren’t any.

as for the “beer budget”... please. My shures cost about the same as a bose system, but they’re a world different.

Bose can get loud without distorting any more than it already does. that’s about the best you can say for it. Some people confuse clear and loud with “great.”

Posted by JC on September 1, 2004 at 6:33 AM (PDT)

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“for all you trash talking adolescents who are on a beer budget, i say dont write about your comments about our bose systems. please know that just because you CANT afford something like a bose product that you spread you blasphemous complaints that bose is “not good”. dont you realize that you get what you pay for, and yes you aint gettin bose cuz you CANT pay for it. Why dont you save your quarters for the 99 dollar sony travel speakers, or the creative labs 70 dollar pair, or shoot why dont you invest your school loans into the new inmotion speakers. But spare us your uninformed announcements that Bose systems dont sound good. Bose has the best noise reduction headsets in the market (quiet comfort 2) and they make the best wave radio with tiny speakers and BIG sound. So get off your rockers and dont utter a breath about what you think bose sounds good or not good to you, dont buy it then and leave it for us audiophile with taste and who have the money to spend on the only quality speakers that will be for apples ipod.”

lol, i love people who defend bose.  as an audiophile, you stay clear of it - if you claim yourself to be one and praise bose, you clearly are not one.  you mention creative labs and the like being crappy.  wanna know something?  you’re dead wrong.  any moderately priced set (megaworks, gigaworks just to name a few) blow bose out of the water.  you’re either deaf or half retarded to think that bose “sounds better.” 

“little cubes, big sound? LOL.”  wanna why bose sounds like they don’t distort or accurately reproduce?  their drivers and crossovers simply cut the frequencies that they can’t reproduce - and it isn’t any small range either.  turn it up, and you can clearly hear port noise in their subs - crackling, coloration in their mids, and huge misses in the high. 

don’t claim yourself to be an audiophile when you’re not. 

Posted by chris on September 1, 2004 at 7:46 AM (PDT)

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“Phil Schiller reveiled that Bose has developed a speaker”

Did he also reveal that Bose had developed a speaker?
He must have taken spelling lessons in California!

Thanks for pointing that out, it’s been corrected.

Posted by roN on September 1, 2004 at 7:49 AM (PDT)

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oh yeah, i don’t think shures, etys, etc… are “beer budget.” 

the only thing that is on a budget is the quality of those bose drivers.

Posted by chris :) on September 1, 2004 at 7:59 AM (PDT)

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I’m sorry, but I have to defend all the “Trash talking adolescents on a beer budget” out here.  Not having much money means that I investigate very carefully where it goes.  Bose is for the people who don’t want to spend countless weekends in different high-end shops listening to different receiver-speaker combinations.  They want to go to Best Buy for an hour on one afternoon and be “amazed”. 

Posted by seandavid010 in So Cal on September 1, 2004 at 8:21 AM (PDT)

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You know how much an acoustimass system costs to build in parts?  Try around $200 or so for a system that costs over $2000.  That’s a…1000% markup? 

I happen to have an acoustimass system at my house, and it sounds like absolute crap.  We didn’t buy it though, it was in the house we’re renting.  For the $2000-3000 you spend on one of those systems, you could have something that is 10x better.

Posted by talldude on September 1, 2004 at 8:26 AM (PDT)

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apple man…ur stupid. chris, i for one am no defending bose.. i have paradigm reference studio 100s, and ive listened to b&w 802s on a regualr basis cuz my neighbor has them. by no means does bose compare to these brands. but it seems like most of those bashing bose are basing their arguments off stuff theyve read online. its a little too much to call bose crap, and im tired of hearing anti bose slogans and what not. did you guys watch the olympics, and see michael phelps wear those 300 dollar bose headphones? im sitting here going, you idiot, you coulda gotten much better for the same price..but face it, those headphones are prolly the best hell ever get his hands on. let him, and other bose users, be happy. i still think bose main and shelf speakers are decent. not crap. why the f*ck are people hating on bose so much. the just made a new product…good for them. some people will buy it..good for them, they have a choice. why are people trying to show off their speaker knowledge? just give ur opinion, and stop this debate…jeez

Posted by danta on September 1, 2004 at 9:04 AM (PDT)

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Does Bose even make a 6.1 channel system? 

Posted by seandavid010 in So Cal on September 1, 2004 at 9:11 AM (PDT)

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Ha! Dr. Amar Bose is a marketing genius and has fooled countless suckers into thinking Bose is good. Bose is only good for one thing…ripping you off. You should look at “real” speaker brands that are worth the money like Klipsch, Polk, Athena, Paradigm, PSB, Axiom, Energy, and Mirage.

All you need to know about Bose.
http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

/Bose ignorance

Posted by The master of Soup on September 1, 2004 at 9:38 AM (PDT)

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I’m an audiophile and I laugh at myslef everytime I plug an Ipod to my Nautilus series B and W…

Put a DVD A in there, then plug your Ipod for the same song and run a grade A system…

Let’s all stop getting all nerdy on this, the premise is that MP3’s in general are simply not the highest end starting material to work on for audio bliss. I don’t care if ytou take it through a 30 K bulb pre amp with Martin Logans, noise in noise out. Pretty simple and funny that the so called audiophile don’t even mention this basic fact… shame shame nerds.

However, I do agree Bose is hype and I am so sad to see great artists do infomercials for them…

Posted by gassam on September 1, 2004 at 10:54 AM (PDT)

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“the premise is that MP3’s in general are simply not the highest end starting material to work on for audio bliss.”

Agreed. For ultimate hifi bliss you need an iRiver with optical digital out playing back non-lossy FLAC-encoded files.

Posted by hifideluxe on September 1, 2004 at 12:30 PM (PDT)

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hehe.. hehe… bose blows ^^

Posted by huh? on September 1, 2004 at 12:55 PM (PDT)

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never did like bose never will overpriced radios/speakers = infinity much better ^^

Posted by huh? on September 1, 2004 at 12:58 PM (PDT)

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Looks like I was right on the money with that $300 price tag estimate.

Personally, I don’t see how it’s so attractive…the iPod blocks part of the speaker and it costs as much as an iPod.

This product is made for a SELECT few who have nothing better to do with their money.

Posted by adrenaline on September 1, 2004 at 2:05 PM (PDT)

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appleman u are truly a fraud - u have no merit whats so ever - my comments were made towards the class of products that bose would perhaps wish they were in.  PLease go into any high end home theatre store and sit down for a listen -  and if u dare bring up bose - be prepared to get ur ### kicked - ur a tool obviously - u buy into the marketing of bose and believe it - just like apple products- little cubes - big sound - ur a big jerk -  dont u understand music?  the range of those drivers cannot handle a full spectrum - the other frequencies are crossed over to the sub - which has limitations of its own - god i can keep going - but please - if u driven aferrari/porsche/lambo u can tell me all about driving the best - clearly ur lincoln cannot compete.

Posted by gabe on September 1, 2004 at 5:18 PM (PDT)