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UPDATED: Apple’s new iPod: 12h battery, surprises

picFollowing a weekend trickling out of initial product details, Apple Computer has this morning officially premiered a “remixed” fourth-generation (4G) iPod on its web site. Confirming initial reports, the 4G iPod offers 12 hours of battery life and, while available in two familiar capacities, has dropped in price: 20 gigabytes ($299) and 40 gigabytes ($399). No 15 gigabyte version is available, nor is any size larger than 40 gigabytes. The 4G iPod also features a gray and white plastic Click Wheel controller (see iLounge Backstage for additional discussion), the familiar black and white backlit two-inch screen, Apple’s proprietary Dock Connector on the bottom, and the Signature iPod white and chrome case design familiar from prior high-capacity iPod hardware.

Contrary to initial reports, however, the 4G iPod’s body has not changed dramatically in size: the 20GB unit measures 4.1"x2.4"x0.57” and weighs 5.6 oz., while the 40GB unit measures 4.1"x2.4"x0.69” and weighs 6.2 oz. But iPod packages have changed, generally for the better: each iPod now includes a USB 2.0 cable, removing a separate but frequently necessary $19 purchase for 3G iPod consumers. However, only the 40GB iPod includes a new Dock ($39, new part number M9602G/A)

, wired Remote ($39), and carrying case ($39);

the 20GB iPod loses these optional accessories.

The 4G iPods are the beneficiaries of additional firmware features, as well. Version 3.0 of the iPod’s firmware allows multiple on-the-go playlists to be created and audiobook playback speed (faster/slower) to be adjusted - but apparently not other audio. Menus have also changed slightly to create easier access to certain key features, including shuffled playback, and Apple’s site lists another new feature: “Clicker playback through headphones,” which lets users optionally hear their Click Wheel adjustments through headphones. Additional languages have also been added to the iPod, however, game and other menu offerings remain the same as before. Packed-in software also remains largely the same: the 4G iPod ships with the current (4.6) version of iTunes.

Apple claims immediate availability of the new iPod, and Hewlett-Packard has confirmed that its HP-branded version of the iPod will be based upon the fourth-generation design, and available in September. As of the time of this article’s publication, Apple’s online store currently shows 1-2 business day availability for the new iPod, and international orders are being taken. Free laser engraving is also available.

UPDATE (10:39AM PST): After posting specifications for the new 40GB iPod this morning,

Apple has changed the list of pack-in items to reflect the removal of two accessories from the box - while the Dock ($39) is still included with the 40GB unit, Apple will apparently no longer include the iPod wired Remote ($39) or the fabric carrying case ($39) with either of the new iPods.

Additionally, and contrary to Apple’s press release this morning, iLounge has confirmed that Apple retail stores do not yet have the new iPod in stock, with some stores claiming availability “in about a week.” More updates are available at backstage.ilounge.com.

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Hm, really cheaper?

iPod 4G (at least the 20GB which is interesting for me, since the other is “too expensive”) w/ same package as the ol’ 3G, will end up even more expensive (at least in here Sweden).

Better battery life is nice, but the new click-wheel and the upgraded software etc actually isn’t “a big thing”.

I’ll pass it and buy a mini instead =)

Posted by JY on July 19, 2004 at 1:42 PM (CDT)


Perhaps Apple should have the ipod burp you after meals too.

Posted by Crybaby on July 19, 2004 at 2:09 PM (CDT)


Isn’t it about time they start selling the remote with out the stupid earbuds? I mean if you’ve got an ipod to want the remote you’ve already gotten those exact same buds with your ipod already. Either just sell the remote seperately for 10$ less or what ever it works out to or bundle them with the in ear headphones for another 20 or 30$. Stop making us by junk we don’t want and couldn’t possibly need.

Posted by kpb on July 19, 2004 at 2:22 PM (CDT)


what a joke, this new “generation” is no different..  apple are shocking!

Posted by duncky on July 19, 2004 at 2:39 PM (CDT)


Well, it’s an incremental update, but still good. Putting the shuffle right there up front is good. The price drop is wonderful. But I was surprised the biggest thing in the update was making it easier to shuffle and changing the buttons. Though it keeps me and my 3g from suffering any envy.

Posted by Lee Tracy on July 19, 2004 at 2:47 PM (CDT)



I’m very pissed right now because I ordered my 40G today when the Apple website said it came with the dock, carrying case, and the remote. Now it says just the dock. Thanks to whoever pointed that out above because I cancelled my order. The only reason to buy the 40G is because it came with all that stuff. Oh well, they lost a customer here. Too bad I’ll have to take back the stupid PCI card that already shipped with it. Ugh I’m pissed.

Posted by gary on July 19, 2004 at 3:45 PM (CDT)


Gary….....you should have kept your order. I bet they would have honored it.


Posted by Cooni on July 19, 2004 at 4:50 PM (CDT)



I called at work and the lady on the phone wouldn’t budge at all. She told me she would give me $20 off of my order. Ha. Yeah right. So I cancelled because I was frustrated and I didn’t want the engraving to go through otherwise I was stuck with it. Then…

I call back after I get home. Put on the headset and do other things, cuz it takes about 20 minutes to get through. I get through, explain it about three times before this lady understands, then she tells me she could look into it and possibly honor it, but since I already cancelled, no luck (although she could have said this with the safety of knowing that I had already cancelled and there was nothing she could do). I was like…well, can’t you just look at my order history…well whatever. I know I’m right because I ordered it for my girlfriend, and she doesn’t even have a 40G hard drive on her computer. But I figured since I would be spending the extra cash anyway on the accessories, may as well go with the 40g in case we move in later and then she can put her music on my 160G hard drive. So otherwise, I wouldn’t have bought the damn 40g. Plus, in one of the posts about where AndyH points out that they changed it (Thank you Andy, thank you), he posted that at 954am. I placed my order at 908am. Go figure.

This is the slowest website out of the 40 that I visit daily. The slowest BY FAR.

Posted by gary on July 19, 2004 at 5:29 PM (CDT)


Gary:  The 40 GB iPod does come with the dock, but it doesn’t come with the remote nor with the case.

And Cooni is correct, I heard that if you placed your order prior to the web page being updated, Apple was honoring the specs and including a case and remote with the order, free of charge.

Posted by AndyH in Berwyn, PA on July 19, 2004 at 5:34 PM (CDT)


I can’t seem to find that “$100 price drop” anywhere in the apple store. I wanted the 20GB with dock, case & remote, but the grand total is now $416, which is an increase of $17 ???? (even if I subtract the “free” $19 USB-cable I am left with a $2 “price drop”)

Posted by Maz on July 19, 2004 at 5:39 PM (CDT)


3G 20Gb Ipod w/dock/remote/carrying case = $399 + $19 USB 2.0 Cable = $418
4G 20Gb Ipod WITHOUT dock/remote/carrying but with USB 2.0 Cable = $299 + 39 Remote + 39 Dock + 39 Carriyng case = $416
So, the price drop is clearly a PR stunt designed to catch the eye of the 90% dumbed-down-by-TV-etc-etc average yuppie citizen, jeez everybody is talking about the NEW features, but correct me if i’m wrong, i don’t see any new USEFUL features, the click whell is IMHO a step back , the only advantage i see is that the buttons are on the wheel and that open the door for a large display in a future “X"G ipod, so far the software updates are all crap, and i’m sick of the “Improved playback performance” fairytale, where are the really useful features like gapless playback , title scrolling on playlist so we don’t have to guess the album name, etc etc. that’s what everyone expects to get when you have paid $400 and not being lured to upgrade by deceiptive PR stunts.

Posted by Elfarto on July 19, 2004 at 5:45 PM (CDT)



Have you not read what I posted. The LADY WOULD NOT HONOR MY ORDER BEFORE THEY CHANGED THE SPECS AND I AM PISSED ABOUT IT. Read my posts and then tell me what the hell is going on.

Posted by gary on July 19, 2004 at 6:16 PM (CDT)


Yes ElFARto…

You understand exactly what I am talking about. They didn’t actually drop the price, and in fact, in the case of the 20G, the price is actually MORE!!!!!

Posted by g on July 19, 2004 at 6:17 PM (CDT)


I’m telling you all NOT to buy this 4G if you’re thinking of it. Apple “shot down” rumors of a 60 gb iPod even though toshiba confirmed the 60 gb hard drive shipments BECAUSE APPLE DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE SALES FROM THE 20GB AND 40GB IPODS WHILE THEY ARE PREPARING THIS 60 GB IPOD.

> trust me. Don’t buy these ipods so fast. I bought my 3g ipod when it first came out. remember the 10, 15, and 30gb models? well sucks for me because I buy the 15 gb model and two months later, a 20gb model comes out for the same price and my 15 gb becomes the shittiest ipod of the bunch. (no offense, 15 gb ipod users) But that’s it! So wait for apple to make higher capacity 4gen models and then go for it!

Posted by GREG on July 19, 2004 at 6:37 PM (CDT)


This site is very slow. I’m glad I am not the only one that noticed that.
Oh well I got the 20G today.  I can’t wait. I’ve never had one so I’m stoked.  I love toys.


Posted by Conni on July 19, 2004 at 6:47 PM (CDT)


I like the new iPod.  The battery life alone is worth the upgrade to me.  With that said, I am selling my one and a half (1.5) month old 3g 20 Gb iPod with the USB connector.


Posted by nyahmedny on July 19, 2004 at 7:01 PM (CDT)


Don’t know if anyone noticed this yet, but it seems that the dock for the 4G iPods might not work with the 3G, and visa versa?  This is taken from the apple store.  The link is at the bottom:

iPod Dock (new Click Wheel models)

...  Supports new iPod with Click Wheel (20GB or 40GB) only. For an iPod Dock accessory kit for prior generation iPod with Dock Connector, use M9130G/A iPod Dock kit.


Posted by Zim on July 19, 2004 at 7:47 PM (CDT)


Thanks for all the comments in here. As noted on the site’s main page, we have been experiencing tremendous growth in our page views for some time, and are about to fix the site’s speed issues with new hardware.

Regarding “price drop” versus “price increase,” there was simply no way to legally purchase a new-in-box 40GB iPod yesterday for less than $399, or a new-in-box 20GB iPod for less than $299. As of today, those are the starting prices for each unit, and given that each iPod now includes a USB cable, the average person (a PC user) could walk out of a store for $299 plus tax (or at Amazon, no tax) with everything they need to iPod. Before, $299 plus tax would get you 5GB less capacity and no USB connectivity, which is fine if you have a Mac or a FireWire card for your PC, but otherwise you’d have to toss in another $20.

It is unquestionably true that the “price drop” was nowhere near as dramatic as Apple has allowed the media to believe, but it is equally true that the media is exceptionally lazy when it comes to reporting accurately on technology stories. You’ll note that few if any mainstream publications have picked up on the missing items in the new iPod boxes. iPodlounge has been committed to accurate and comprehensive reporting on all things iPod since the beginning, and will continue to be so, even if that sometimes means we need to discuss not-so-pleasant details.

That said, I would be very surprised if anyone actually purchased a 20GB iPod and then purchased the case, dock, and remote, bringing their total up to $416. None of those three items is worth its $39 asking price, and substantially cheaper alternatives are available for two of the three (PocketDock and many, many superior cases). If nothing else, today’s iPod purchaser has the luxury of added choice with their dollars.

Posted by Jeremy Horwitz on July 19, 2004 at 7:49 PM (CDT)


Who cares about the case, not getting it is no big loss and much better cases are available for less from 3rd party vendors.  If you just must have the dock, case and remote with your 20GB iPod, then order the 3G while it lasts at Amazon for $299 then (plus you even get a $50 GC) and quit your whining.

Posted by JB on July 19, 2004 at 8:07 PM (CDT)


:( I just bought an iPod in the beginning of July, now they come out with a new one, pushing the price I paid for my 3G down to 299 on amazon, with a 50$ gift certificate, case, dock, remote, and everything. :( :( :(

Posted by p0lar in Maine on July 19, 2004 at 9:25 PM (CDT)

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