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Wired: ITunes Undermines Social Security

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By Dennis Lloyd

Publisher, iLounge
Published: Wednesday, November 12, 2003
News Categories: iTunes

“As if it weren’t hard enough to be cool already, Apple Computer has introduced a new way for people to ruin their social standing.

Thanks to the ability of Apple’s iTunes to share music collections over local networks, it is now possible to judge someone’s taste in music—or lack of it—in a way that previously required a certain level of intimacy.”

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1

Hmmmmm. . .ok maybe in Junior High!  How thick can you be?

Posted by AndyP on November 12, 2003 at 6:49 AM (PDT)

2

Oh no!  My 4 iTunes-enabled family members will JUDGE ME!?!?!

Lol… silly.

Posted by azdude_15gb on November 12, 2003 at 7:28 AM (PDT)

3

This might seem new and startling for Mac people, but PC people have been able to do this for years and years. You can get software to broadcast like Shoutcast and literally tens of thousands of people have set up their own mini radio stations to reach hundreds of people at the same time. As usualy with the PC, there are a myriad of alternatives, such as Flashback, Icecast, Live365, and on and on and on.

http://www.shoutcast.com/

Or if your ambition is more limited, you can use more iTunes-similar software to share playlists and files, like Media Centre. I think this is what the author of this “news” article is gushing about. I’ve tried both, but I prefer broadcasting—it gives me a little buzz.

Anyway, the real subtext of this story is that Mac users can finally share some music with each other. Do all the peope in Wired own stock in Apple that they welcome every inch crawled forward by Apple is giving their locked-in users some software diversity as massive progress? It’s a bit humiliating!

Posted by OldNews on November 12, 2003 at 7:30 AM (PDT)

4

Yes, I have always preferred broadcasting too. It is a little bit of a thrill, and even if nobody in the world is listening, I like carefully constructing lists and such. The main problem with iTune’s version is that it only works for other iTunes users. That’s like a stream that could only be played in WinAmp or something. Kind of limiting. It would be nicer if they had a broadcast function that would do streaming to the net at 56kbps or whatever, as well as the local LAN sharing.

Posted by Ioa on November 12, 2003 at 7:40 AM (PDT)

5

I dunno, guys—guess I’m musically selfish.

I listen to satisfy myself.  If one of my family members wants to check out my tunes, I’m more than happy to let them do it through iTunes, but I don’t see much excitement in blindly broadcasting to an audience I never see or get any feedback from wink.

Posted by azdude_15gb on November 12, 2003 at 7:47 AM (PDT)

6

“Anyway, the real subtext of this story is that Mac users can finally share some music with each other. “

sorry to burst your bubble, but mac users have had the same functionality for years as well. 

“As usualy with the PC, there are a myriad of alternatives”

as always with the mac, there are just as many options… all of them more polished than their pc counterparts.

“It’s a bit humiliating!”

yeah, i agree… it’s humiliating to be misinformed and get caught with your foot in your mouth.  don’t worry son, i won’t think any less you.

thanks for playing.

Posted by Box on November 12, 2003 at 8:43 AM (PDT)

7

See there is one facet that some can’t see in this story. As a college student, this is the exact truth. Someone can find out what you computer name is and sum you up by what music you have on your computer, which up until the itunes explosion, was pretty confidential. So your only options are to leech or only share some of you library.

Posted by Acid4blood on November 12, 2003 at 9:06 AM (PDT)

8

>> but I don’t see much excitement in blindly broadcasting to an audience I never see or get any feedback from

—-

Spoken like someone who’s never worked at a college radio station. smile

Posted by Dunfee on November 12, 2003 at 9:16 AM (PDT)

9

Who the hell cares so much?  If they have an eclectic mix, then they have a good taste in music.

“I flip through the catalog and thing, ‘what kind of dining set defines me as a person?’”

You’re not your bank account.  You’re not your f*cking khakis.  You’re not your music collection.

Posted by Jeremy on November 12, 2003 at 9:17 AM (PDT)

10

“Spoken like someone who’s never worked at a college radio station.”

Heh, yup. Some people get it, the other people tune in.

Posted by Ioa on November 12, 2003 at 9:17 AM (PDT)

11

Argh. That was my first post on iPodlounge, and it was ridden with spelling and continuity errors.

I quit.

Posted by Jeremy on November 12, 2003 at 9:18 AM (PDT)

12

“You’re not your bank account. You’re not your f*cking khakis. You’re not your music collection.”

—-

What, you’re writing ad copy for the Gap?

This sounds like something they’d flash across the bottom of the screen of a Gap commercial. And while they were flashing it, the screen would show slow-motion pictures of people in grainy black and white walking down crowded city streets.

The music would be an instrumental—no vocals—kinda like the lone electric guitar Hal Hartley uses for some of his films (“Trust”, “Simple Men”, “Henry Fool.”)

Posted by Dunfee the Gap Commecial Scout on November 12, 2003 at 9:42 AM (PDT)

13

“as always with the mac, there are just as many options… all of them more polished than their pc counterparts”

box, i understand your need to defend apple from OldNews’ remarks, but the above just isn’t true.  it’s the natural consequences of having a proprietary vs. open platform.  you simply can’t back that statement up. 

if you get upset, don’t just start spittin’ out words, it makes you look crazy! =)

Posted by koolio on November 12, 2003 at 10:30 AM (PDT)

14

heh, everyone already knows what music i like by looking at the shirts i occasionally wear. So what if people know your musical tastes. As long as its not michael bolton, youve got nothing to hide

Posted by Zack on November 12, 2003 at 10:45 AM (PDT)

15

To summarize this article:

If you’re a guy and you have way too many Barbara Streisand tunes in your playlist, then theres a 98% chance that you’re gay.

Posted by Barb on November 12, 2003 at 11:01 AM (PDT)

16

Not that there’s anything wrong with that

Posted by Barb on November 12, 2003 at 11:05 AM (PDT)

17

follio…

a quick trip over to versiontracker shows that are several broadcasting programs available for mac.  i’m sure if i took more than two seconds to investigate the issue i’d find many more.

windows is an open platform?  that’s the funniest thing i’ve heard in weeks.

maybe you should heed your own advice, cuz it’s you that looks stupid now.

thanks for the laffs.

better luck next time.

Posted by Box on November 12, 2003 at 11:15 AM (PDT)

18

“This sounds like… a Gap commercial.”

Fight Club, actually.  Quite the opposite.  Interesting that you’d think that way though.

Posted by Jeremy on November 12, 2003 at 11:21 AM (PDT)

19

“a quick trip over to versiontracker shows that are several broadcasting programs available for mac. i’m sure if i took more than two seconds to investigate the issue i’d find many more.”

What are these programs called then Boxy?

I’ve seen several listed for the PC but all you have is rumour. Where are they? What are they called? I have BSD - maybe I’ll check them out.

How cross-platform are they? What kind of protocols? Or are you stuck “broadcasting” to 3% of the world (typical Mac market share).

Posted by putup on November 12, 2003 at 11:21 AM (PDT)

20

“This sounds like… a Gap commercial.”

Ha ha ha—Think Different; In Tyler We Trust.

Posted by Ioa on November 12, 2003 at 11:37 AM (PDT)

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