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Video, and then ... price drops for “older” iPods ???

Posted by mamerio on July 18, 2005 at 10:49 AM (PDT)

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pewtey:

Do you honestly think he was that calculating when he said that? I don’t think anyone has said they’d want to watch a full length movie on a tiny screen. There are a couple flaws in that assumption though.

1) You’re assuming the screen is going to remain the same size.

2) Who says you have to watch it on the screen at all? S-video would be an obvious feature to plug into TVs.

Obviously everyone that’s been wanting a video iPod wants it for all sorts of video, not just movies. I don’t think Jobs intention was to mislead anyone when he said “it’s about the music, stupid”. He obviously missed the point then, but now he gets it.. you seriously give him way too much credit.

Posted by Kloan in Toronto, ON on July 18, 2005 at 1:13 PM (PDT)

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pewtey:

I read your blog.. all good points, and they’re all points we (the people who want video) have been making for a while now.

However, just because he didn’t say ‘people don’t want to watch digital video.’ doesn’t mean that he’s been planning this all along.

Posted by Kloan in Toronto, ON on July 18, 2005 at 1:18 PM (PDT)

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Size does matter, but they wouldn’t necessarily need to put a bigger drive in the iPod to make it effective with video.  Remember that some Tivos have only 40gb HDD and people are recording a week worth of shows on them.

Music videos aren’t the future of portable video players. 

It will be the ‘portable tivo’ aspect that makes this thing take off.

It will be taking a movie in your back pocket that makes this thing take off.

I personally love music videos, but they will be nothing more than a novelty.

Posted by Talking Madness in Los Angeles on July 18, 2005 at 1:21 PM (PDT)

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in terms of HD size, i’m not convinced they would need to go tooo much bigger

You can get good compression down to 320x240 screen size, that’s for sure. Most of the current DIX or similar MPEG-4 compression digital video players get around 100-200MB/hour for excellent quality. I have a pocket video player that’s a couple of years old, only has a 20GB disk, but has several complete runs of TV series loaded on there. Not to mention a year’s worth of Daily Shows clips.

The Gmini 400 does quite well for a pocket video player with only a 20GB drive, but for real pack rats Archos also sells not one but two 100GB monster video/music players. But for the price you could get a cheap notebook PC so I can’t see the appeal. The $300 20GB is better value and I’d say this is the price point/featureset Apple will be aiming at, with maybe a $100 Apple premium.

Posted by Demosthenes on July 18, 2005 at 2:27 PM (PDT)

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I would be kind of surprised if the video ipod was in the same form as the current ipod. It will need to be widescreen if they are going to push movies for it (not that I care about widescreen but it’s trendy right now) think psp. either that or it’ll be like a small tablet pc. Apple recently got a patent for a tablet design. Maybe it’s just a 5” diagonal touch screen. that would make a lot of sense: bigger battery, bigger hd. I’d pay $600 for that. maybe.

Posted by jm on July 18, 2005 at 3:29 PM (PDT)

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im not sure if i really want to watch music videos on an ipod… however it would be AWESOME if they sold sitcoms like friends and stuff on ipod… or if you could (ex.) download the newest american idol and watch it on the train instead of on tv.

Posted by nathan on July 18, 2005 at 9:37 PM (PDT)

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Kloan,

It’s possible he wasn’t planning this all along, but then again maybe he was. I DO believe that when Jobs made those comments he was already well on his way to thinking up ways to improve the iPod, which would have included exploring the possibility of video.

My point is admittedly a weak one: trying to show that Jobs could unveil a video iPod that doesn’t necessarily contradict his earlier claims, when in fact even if it DOES contradict earlier claims; so what? he’s certainly done that before and no one would hold him against it.

Posted by pewtey in columbus, oh on July 19, 2005 at 6:36 AM (PDT)

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I think video could be important for small screens, but on a 2” Ipod? The screen is low res, too small, and not worth the time and effort to convert video to fit IMO.

If anyone has seen the Epson P-2000 (designed for photographers), it has a beautiful 3.8” hi-res screen (640x480) that will give you crystal clear images. The device is larger than an Ipod, but the quality is stunning. I think if apple wants to show video, epson’s p-2000 screen/capabilities should be the starting point.

Posted by panorama on July 19, 2005 at 7:12 AM (PDT)

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If the ipod video is released at the Apple Expo on Sept. 20, will Apple still redeem their Student Union offer with the new ipod? If you could order it and have it shipped by the 24th, do you still think you could get the rebate?

Posted by suitcase99 on July 19, 2005 at 8:23 AM (PDT)

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The WSJ also stated last year that the company I work for would cease U.S. operations.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

Posted by Bill on July 19, 2005 at 10:56 AM (PDT)

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if ipod video is released, can we return the 20g ipod, to get it upraged to the new one?

Posted by M&M on August 19, 2005 at 9:23 AM (PDT)

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i think a video capable ipod would be great.. screen size would not have to be changed in my opinion, but you would definitely need to have a video/audio out option (like the ipod photo..err..ipod), and it would be great if it had some sort of PVR capability built in.. but if not.. you could still record off your computer, through some program bundled with the video ipod, and then transfer the recorded video that way..

A video ipod would also finally allow us to easily show and share our edited videos movies that we create in i-movie, final cut express, and final cut…

Posted by Ray on September 9, 2005 at 2:37 PM (PDT)

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i just want to say that i think the ideal ipod for anyone would be one probably the size of the nano but wit a bigger screen, 5000 song memory and pic and of course video capability….ya,video:)

Posted by austin taylor on September 12, 2005 at 4:15 PM (PDT)