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Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

I noticed the first recording I deleted showed “removed” as the status for a while with the songs still listed, but each subsequent removal just simply removed the songs altogether. Just tried another one, and all the songs are gone from the library.
I’m spent. Need to take a break from this for a while.
Again, thanks for the attention and guidance. I’ll keep an eye on this thread and a few others on this topic.

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 9, 2016 at 3:06 PM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Ah, yes. Sorry I wasn’t clear on that — I had meant deleting them from the new library, and then going back and re-adding them (or re-syncing them) from the original library.
With properly “matched” (or “uploaded”) tracks in iTunes Match, removing a track from the cloud (e.g. from a secondary library) would not remove the original file from your hard drive — the status in the original library would change to “Removed” and you could then right-click on it and choose to “Add to iCloud Music Library.”
As I noted above, since iTunes and iCloud Music Library probably sees these as “Apple Music” tracks, it may instead simply remove them across all of your devices. That said, I just checked my own library, and in my case, I do have a few dozen Apple Music tracks still in my library with a status of “Removed” that were actual Apple Music tracks to begin with. In this case, using the “Add to iCloud Music Library” for those just comes back with an “Error” status; I’m guessing here, but my theory is this is because the original files are actually “Apple Music AAC audio files” and therefore DRM-protected and can’t be uploaded/matched so iTunes doesn’t know what to do with them.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 9, 2016 at 2:44 PM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

I deleted another recording of 25 songs and will let that sit for a day. I already noticed it’s gone from the phone. Maybe the duplicates won’t be there tomorrow.
On your 2nd paragraph… I assumed I had to add the songs back in. Are you saying I shouldn’t do that? Should I instead go back to the original Windows login to see the impact?

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 9, 2016 at 12:13 PM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Well, that’s less than ideal

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 9, 2016 at 11:51 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Deleted a live recording, 28 tracks (all had ratings),
Sync’d the library with iCloud,
Restarted iTunes and the computer for good measure,
Added the 28 tracks back,
No ratings, went from ‘waiting’ to ‘uploaded’ with three errors,
Resync’d the three errors and they went to ‘uploaded’.
No ratings on any of the songs.
Checked the phone. There were duplicates of all the songs. One was the incorrectly matched studio version and one was the correct live version.
If I proceed like this, I’ll have to re-rate all the songs after I add the recordings back to the library (or give up on the ratings of these altogether). I then have to wipe the phone app and start fresh so that it won’t grab/show duplicates.
Thoughts?

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 9, 2016 at 11:35 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Yup, that’s basically it, although make sure you give it a few minutes to sync in both directions.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 9, 2016 at 10:52 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

New login and new iTunes session completed. Ready for the next step. Should I to this…
delete one of the mismatched live recordings,
sync the library so iCloud sees the change,
add the live recording back to the library from the original files.

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 9, 2016 at 10:38 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

No worries, happy to help!
Hopefully this works out for you — please keep us apprised. I feel like if this doesn’t help get it sorted, you’ll likely be left at the mercy of Apple releasing an iTunes update that allows for a proper library rescan. Good luck!

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 9, 2016 at 9:29 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Got it.
And thanks a lot for taking the time on this issue. I know you don’t have to, and I really appreciate it.

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 9, 2016 at 9:24 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Heh, even with iTunes Match I’ve always maintained an old-school backup of all of my own media files (several, in fact ;) ).
When you create the new library, you can leave the settings at their defaults. It doesn’t really matter what they are for our purposes. The iTunes Media folder will be in its default location under your Windows “My Music” folder in the new account, but you shouldn’t really have anything in there other than a folder structure, as syncing up with iCloud Music Library doesn’t actually download any media files unless you specifically ask it to do so. Same for the “Copy” and “Keep Organized” options — they’re not going to matter in this case as you aren’t actually importing any tracks.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 9, 2016 at 9:23 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Okay. You’ve inspired me. Making a local backup of my music files now. (They’re already in the cloud, but I want a copy I can put my hands on, old school.)
When I create the new logon and then launch iTunes, do I keep these settings on like in the other library…  “Keep iTunes Media folder organized” and “Copy files to iTunes Media folder when adding to the library”. It’s also going to want to point to an iTunes Media folder location.

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 9, 2016 at 9:20 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Actually, you shouldn’t lose anything at all by setting up a second library — that’s kind of the point of iCloud Music Library.
Note that I’m not talking about copying the library here — just log into a separate Windows user account, fire up iTunes, create a new, empty database, and then enable Apple Music and iCloud Music Library under the same Apple ID that you use for your primary music library.
This should result in downloading an exact copy of your cloud-based library, at least as Apple’s servers see it; it should include all of your ratings and other metadata, and an index of all of your content, although the actual media files will remain in the cloud unless you specifically choose to download them. Of course, you’ll get the mismatched tracks, but that doesn’t really matter at the end of the day — you’re just using this pseudo-library as a way to help clean up those mismatches, effectively removing them from iCloud Music Library but leaving the originals intact on your original library in the other account.
Again, test this with one or two tracks that you have backups of — iTunes will likely remove the database entries from your original library, since it sees them as “Apple Music” tracks and therefore fair game to remove, but I’m not sure whether in this case it would also remove the underlying files. I’d think it wouldn’t, but you never know since again it’s seeing them as “Apple Music” (with iTunes Match it definitely doesn’t remove them, as it knows they’re original tracks that belong to you, but since they’re tagged as “Apple Music” tracks, it could possibly change the rules).

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 9, 2016 at 8:24 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

I already tried the 2nd library approach but under the same Windows user account. You’re correct—that approach shared the iTunes preferences. I suspect doing so under a different login will probably work, but 1) that is an enormous undertaking, 2) will probably lose my ratings for the live recordings, (correct?) and 3) may mess with my Apple Music subscription and all those associated ratings.
I’ll probably keep going as-is, and hope that a magic “rescan library for possible improperly matched songs” menu item appears. :-)

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 8, 2016 at 10:37 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Not deleting the underlying files doesn’t work because the cloud rescan still shows ‘matched’

That one is kind of strange, as that’s not the way iTunes has ever worked in my experience, but I notice you’re on Windows, so maybe something is different there now than it used to be.
I agree that removing and re-adding the files isn’t a viable solution for your entire library — it was more of a diagnostic to see if the new iTunes Match algorithms are working properly at all on your Apple Music subscription, and that seems to be the case.
So the question at this point seems to be more about how to get iTunes to delete the “Apple Music” entries and re-scan the original files, which is of course a much trickier thing. Because of the way the original “Apple Music” matching algorithms worked, I’m not surprised you’re getting duplicates, as really that was more about adding “Apple Music” tracks to your collection (in the same way as if you had searched them out and added them manually) than directly associating your existing files like iTunes Match did.
One possible option if you have a second computer available to you would be to setup iTunes with your iCloud Music Library on that computer, and then go through and remove the mismatched Apple Music tracks from there entirely. This is along the same lines as doing it from the iOS side like some people in the Apple Discussions post suggested, but of course that’s not a real option from Android.
Also, even if you don’t have a second computer, you should be able to set up an alternative iTunes library (I’d recommend doing this under a separate Windows user account, just to make sure it’s an entirely “clean” configuration — a second library under the same account will still share your iTunes preferences with both), and then basically doing it from there. Try it with a few tracks first to see what happens — you should be able to remove one or two from Apple Music and then force a re-match from your original library by right-clicking and using the upload to iCloud option.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 8, 2016 at 10:26 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Thanks for your note, Jesse.
I have tried deleting some tracks within iTunes, both by deleting the underlying files (with a backup ready to be added back in) and leaving the underlying files. Not deleting the underlying files doesn’t work because the cloud rescan still shows ‘matched’, as if they said, “Ah, we found your deleted songs.” Deleting the underlying files kind of worked inthat the upload to the cloud resulted in a correct ‘uploaded’ condition, but I lost the song ratings—something that took me years to log on 50+ GB of live recordings. This method also created unruly duplicates when the phone grabbed the new files.

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 8, 2016 at 9:47 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Interesting. I haven’t heard from anybody specifically on this, but I’ll ask around among our team as I think some of us weren’t iTunes Match subscribers to begin with.
Technically, uploading was always supported in Apple Music, but of course if your songs are being improperly matched, the originals won’t get uploaded as iTunes thinks it’s already dealt with them by matching them.
The suggestions in that Apple Discussions thread should work to force a rescan of your library. I wouldn’t worry too much about the Android side of things — that’s not relevant in this case as everything should be done from iTunes.
One thing you could try as a diagnostic would be to remove a few tracks that you know for certain have been improperly matched from your iTunes library entirely; when deleting a track, iTunes will offer to remove it only from the library database without erasing the underlying file (and that’s only if it’s in your “iTunes Media” folder — if the track was imported from somewhere else, iTunes won’t touch the underlying file at all under any circumstances).
After you’ve removed those tracks, they should also be removed from your iCloud Music Library, although I’d give it a few minutes to make sure everything has synced up. After that, try reimporting them, which should cause iTunes to reprocess them as if they were brand new tracks and take them through the standard matching-then-uploading algorithms so you can see what happens.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 8, 2016 at 9:18 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Do you know if people that are Apple Music subscribers but not Match users have seen this conversion from Apple Music to Uploaded or Matched? I heard they’d be through everyone by the end of August, but I’m still sitting on the incorrect Apple Music status for 50GB+ of live recordings that are incorrectly matched to the studio versions of these songs. There’s no way to execute a ‘rescan’ of the library for Apple to see that there are improperly matched songs. Here’s a discussion on my saga… https://discussions.apple.com/...

Posted by Eric Nerenberg on December 8, 2016 at 8:55 AM (CST)

Apple makes its picks for best iPhone, iPad and Apple TV apps of 2016

I like Twitter and it’s kinda fun on Apple TV, but my choice would be Channels, the app that lets you watch live local OTA broadcast TV (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, PBS, etc)...negating one of the chief arguments of local cable providers against the likes of Apple TV.

Posted by D9 on December 7, 2016 at 4:08 PM (CST)

Rumor: 2017 iPhones won't include glass chassis or wireless charging; will add red color

Sounds like that “supply source” might be named Samsung.

Posted by D9 on December 7, 2016 at 4:01 PM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Of course, those covered by the last part about iTunes Match can still decide whether having full DRM-free, 256K quality copies of their songs, a unified library, cloud backup, streaming playback to mobile devices, plus the option of purchasing 6 new songs per month (@ $1.29 ea) for the same monthly price is the better deal.
I liked Apple Music, but the above probably takes care of 95% of my limited music needs. “New” music is less a desire than the constant access to my music no matter where I am.

Posted by D9 on December 7, 2016 at 3:54 PM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

The only thing I can say right now is that you should have access, but clearly Apple hasn’t updated all of its support documents yet — they’ve only changed the main Apple Music FAQ. However, uploaded have been part of Apple Music’s iCloud Music Library since the beginning, as per the original linked above:

In addition, iTunes will upload to your iCloud Music Library those songs that we can’t find in our catalog, to make them available to you on all of your other devices.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 7, 2016 at 12:52 PM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Also a bit confused - I have several live concerts in my library that didn’t match & had to be uploaded when I signed up for iTunes Match, is Apple keeping them so if I drop Match but sign up for Apple Music I would still have access to them?

Posted by Todd Leudesdorff on December 7, 2016 at 12:29 PM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

While I haven’t been able to test it yet (my iTunes Match subscription expires on Dec 15th), that’s what all indications point to. The ability to download DRM-free versions of “matched” tracks was the key differentiator between Apple Music and iTunes Match, and our July report that indicated Apple was beginning to roll it out indicated that it was a key part of the plan:

...the upgrade to iTunes Match audio fingerprinting will also bring other iTunes Match features, including the ability to download all matched songs as DRM-free versions from the iTunes Store.

Posted by Jesse Hollington on December 7, 2016 at 11:08 AM (CST)

Apple acknowledges Apple Music now includes 'all the benefits of iTunes Match'

Sorry, a bit confused, does this mean that Apple Music subscribers (who do not have Apple Match) can now download DRM-free 256kbps AAC versions of any tracks matched from their own library and keep them after their Apple Music plan has ended?

Posted by Jean-Claude Landau on December 7, 2016 at 10:59 AM (CST)

Apple reveals cause of unexpected iPhone 6s shutdowns

yeah….. I ran this phone on 9.1 jailbroken till recently and upgraded when I got a watch… Sorry, even though I am getting a new battery as part of this “recall” I am not buying it. I had no problem tlll the upgrade. Just saying.

Posted by marcjaffe on December 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM (CST)

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