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Apple announces iWork, iPhoto, iMovie iOS apps go free*

The keynote was very clear that these apps would be free only for new devices that ship with iOS 7.

How Apple manages this won’t be known until next week, but it could be as Jesse describes where a “qualifying purchase” gets you the apps for free and then you’re able to share with other devices on your iTunes account.

Another way might be to integrate the apps into iOS 7 as built-in apps (like Weather) which only get enabled (for free) as part of the initial registration of the new device.

That would make it free only for new devices and (if built into iOS 7) prevent the apps from being transferred to your library for sharing with other devices.  Older devices updated to iOS 7 would not even see these built-in apps, unless the user purchases them.  Pure speculation, but quite possible.

Posted by rockmyplimsoul on September 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM (PDT)

Apple unveils iPhone 5c, 5s Docks

Yay, audio out!  Was that so hard?

Posted by NickT on September 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM (PDT)

Apple debuts colorful iPhone 5c

I tend to agree that Apple should stop caring, but if there’s one thing we’ve seen in the post-Jobs era, it’s an odd sort of defensive approach from Apple on many things. Basically, Apple caring what people think while trying to pretend they don’t care what people think.

That said, carrier cooperation is still necessary in order to provide full and proper support for things like Visual Voicemail, LTE, MMS, and so forth—all of those carrier configuration files come from the carriers, and it’s telling that no files exist for carriers that the iPhone isn’t officially part of, even if those carriers want to support the iPhone (T-Mobile prior to the announcement earlier this year, for instance).

If Apple stopped playing ball there might be some carriers who would basically eschew offering “tight” iPhone integration regardless of consumer demands…. many consumers still buy their iPhones at carrier stores, and could easily be tipped to the Android world if the iPhone weren’t available at all.  Carriers would rather dangle what looks like a juicier carrot in order to lock people into long-term contracts, and many users on the fence would take a “free” “$500” Android device over even a $99 off-contract iPhone. A friend of my wife’s went that exact route, getting sucked in by a store rep constantly reminding her what a better deal the HTC One S was because it was a “$550 phone that we’re giving you for FREE!” She came over and basically announced what a *great* deal she had just gotten compared to the iPhone.

Posted by Jesse Hollington in Toronto on September 11, 2013 at 12:09 PM (PDT)

Apple announces iWork, iPhoto, iMovie iOS apps go free*

It’s unclear what will happen in terms of being offered the free iWork apps if you restore from a backup, although there’s no reason to suggest that it won’t work—when you restore a new iOS device from a backup, you’re still taken through an abbreviated version of the iOS Setup Assistant even in iOS 6. The free apps could still be offered at that point.

Even if Apple has overlooked this, due to the way the App Store works, once you’ve “purchased” the free apps, they will be part of your App Store purchase history and you will likely be able to use them on all of your devices that use the same Apple ID—new or not.  This is in fact how the Mac App Store works already with the the iLife apps when purchasing a new Mac—you get them for free on the new Mac—they’re essentially added to your purchase history automatically, and can then download them from the Mac App Store on all of your other Macs.

Posted by Jesse Hollington in Toronto on September 11, 2013 at 12:02 PM (PDT)

Apple announces iWork, iPhoto, iMovie iOS apps go free*

If I set up my phone as a new device, can it then be restored using a backup?

Posted by jsj on September 11, 2013 at 9:22 AM (PDT)

Apple announces iWork, iPhoto, iMovie iOS apps go free*

I’ve heard reports that they are free with iOS 7 on a new device. So when I upgrade my iPhone 5 I may not be prompted to download them as Jess suggests above. But if I set up it up as a new device, I should get the prompt.

Curious to hear about GarageBand.

Posted by Marc Robinson on September 11, 2013 at 7:03 AM (PDT)

Apple debuts colorful iPhone 5c

Good points, but I guess what I don’t understand is why Apple cares about the carriers precious wittle feelings at this point. While Android may hold just over half the cell phone market, that half is comprised of dozens of models that run the gamut from equally overpriced hardware like the Galaxy series to bare bones LG offerings that you can pick up for $20 with a prepaid TracFone card contract free. The iPhone is still the single best selling series, with whatever the latest one is the single best selling model. If Apple had the stones to start selling unlocked hardware at a true price point, the carriers would be announcing their non-subsidized plans for it 30 seconds later.

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on September 11, 2013 at 6:24 AM (PDT)

Apple debuts colorful iPhone 5c

I’ve generally felt that iPhone pricing always comes back to the carriers when it comes right down to it—as much as Apple has tried to shake off those shackles, it seems that they still need to keep the carriers happy to get at least some cooperation.

When it comes right down to it, anybody who really looks at it can figure out that cell phone hardware is generally way overpriced—the carriers count on that, otherwise they’d have nothing to subsidize. As a result, all of the hardware manufacturers have always jacked up their prices because the carriers are willing to pay those exorbitant high fees and then pass them on to the customers in the form of contract subsidies. Unfortunately, this leaves those that actually want a contract-free phone paying considerably more than is reasonable. There’s no practical reason a 32GB iPhone 5C should cost more than twice the price of the comparable iPod touch, except for the fact that the carriers want to be able to demonstrate how awesome of a deal they’re giving you by subsidizing your already-overpriced hardware.

I, too, had hoped that we’d see the iPod touch retired in favour of an unlocked, contract-free iPhone 5C, but sadly there’s still going to be a need to keep the iPod touch around for a while between the carrier issues above and that the general public still isn’t willing to shake off the negative connotation of giving their kids a “phone”—even many technical people don’t fully appreciate that an unlocked, contract-free, SIMless iPhone is effectively the same thing as an iPod touch, and in that case what hope is there for the typical consumer to figure this out?

Posted by Jesse Hollington in Toronto on September 11, 2013 at 4:44 AM (PDT)

Apple announces iWork, iPhoto, iMovie iOS apps go free*

Actually, I believe Apple said at the keynote that the apps were free only “with the purchase of a new device.”

My guess is that the App Store will likely tie in to the initial setup/registration of a new device somehow and offer the apps for free download—probably in much the same way the App Store currently points you to Apple’s apps the first time you open it after setting up a new device.

Posted by Jesse Hollington in Toronto on September 11, 2013 at 4:32 AM (PDT)

Apple intros space gray iPod touch, nano, shuffle

So the message of the day is, “If you don’t want an iPhone 5S, F%@# YOU!”

The iPad event next month has to be better, right? wink

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on September 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM (PDT)

China gets cheap iPhone after all: 4 remains, now 2,588 Yuan

How is $423 for hardware so outdated that it is bordering on relegated in terms of new app support “cheap”?

Sounds like flushing $423 down the toilet to me.

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on September 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM (PDT)

Apple announces iWork, iPhoto, iMovie iOS apps go free*

They don’t seem to be free on the app store yet?

Posted by Travis Mault on September 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM (PDT)

Apple debuts colorful iPhone 5c

Sigh… oh Apple, why do you treat your customers like idiots?

It’s an iPhone 5 with a cheaper construction offset by marginal improvements to front camera (and, boy, that sure gets a lot of use) and battery, and it’s being sold for the same price the iPhone 5 would have anyhow for those people who can’t afford another $100 at the start of a contract (that will cost them 10X before it’s half over) for the MUCH better 5S.

That parady ad that’s been making the rounds about Apple releasing the same product turns out to be really close to the truth, they just went with the obvious joke of the ‘S’ standing for ‘same’, sigh…

So much missed opportunity here to streamline their products and do that “innovate” thing they like to talk so much about. I feel they should only be selling the 5C contract free and pre-activated so you can put any plan you want on it, or none at all, and price it the same as the 5G touch (discontinuing that altogether). Now that would have warranted something other than sad laughter.

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on September 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM (PDT)

iPhone 5 32GB and 64GB to be discontinued?

This is not surprising it is similar to past Apple behavior. It makes economic sense to push people who want increased storage to the newer device. To make this an opportunity for Apple, it should consider re-imagine the iPod Classic as a media delivery system to iOS devices as well as a music player. Others have attempted mobile media storage without the blessing of using the iOS interface, and they are duds. If they did this, dropping older, but larger storage iOS devices would open up other business opportunities.

Posted by Steve on September 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM (PDT)

Apple issued injunction in e-book case

Not to beat a dead horse, but that final statement is shocking on the face of it. Even if someone wants to foolishly believe Apple that they didn’t actively conspire to fix eBook prices, you have to be dumber than a box of rocks to buy, “...injected much-needed innovation and competition into the market.” Really?

Re: Innovation - iBooks are simply ePub format books, around since 2007, locked down with the most restrictive DRM in the industry.

Re: Competition - Apple’s actions resulted in a global cartel consisting of the six largest publishers in the world enforcing compliance with Agency pricing for all distributors. Under Agency pricing, the publisher sets the prices and no competition is possible by design. Worse, prices were manipulated to impede adoption of eBooks by reducing attractiveness to consumers compared to old school paper products propping up the largely obsolete publishing models of the past century.

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on September 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM (PDT)

Report: Apple testing 4.8 to 6-inch iPhone screens

Why not just give consumers an opportunity to buy iPad minis which make phone calls? It should be big enough to satisfy even the most jaded Android user or envious iPhone user. Meanwhile, any phone I buy must fit comfortably in my hand and blue jeans pocket.

Posted by Steve on September 6, 2013 at 7:40 AM (PDT)

Google Authenticator update erasing user passwords

Awesome. iOS 7 beta auto-updated it for me. I can confirm that my password has vanished into thin bytes.

Posted by jiji on September 4, 2013 at 5:24 PM (PDT)

iPhone 5C phones, packaging, manuals leak

I won’t buy the iphone if the screen is basically the same size.  I want a 5.5” - 6” iphone screen.

Posted by Buddha on September 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM (PDT)

Judge dismisses one iPhone power button lawsuit

Never cease to be amazed at how wide the gulf between “ethical/right” and “legal” is in the U.S..

It’s not that judge disagrees with the notion that the hardware was functionally engineered, accidental or not, to fail after the warranty expired, nor that Apple & AT&T knew this to be the case and kept mum while they continued to sell the defective hardware long after the problem was known, it’s just that there’s nothing illegal about doing that /facepalm

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on August 30, 2013 at 7:54 AM (PDT)

E-book case judge seeks competition, not Apple punishment

The fact remains that Apple wouldn’t even be in the eBook market in any substantive manner if not for their collusion with publishers. Had Apple needed, as Amazon and others, to purchase units as though they were physical copies, negotiating a wholesale price, paying ahead of time, and then pricing them in a manner to compete with other distributors, all while steadfastly insisting upon their non-friendly consumer terms (it wasn’t until June 2013 you could read an iBook even on a Mac - and all other computing platforms are still SOL), it’s inconceivable that the iBook store would have been particularly successful in an already crowded market where everyone else bends over backward to accommodate their customers.

As such, it’s disheartening to see the degree the judge and DOJ are going out of their way to use kid gloves in their treatment of Apple in this case.

Only in this country can you engage in a global price fixing conspiracy that injures the little guys for billions of dollars and instead of being banned from the market you so heavily manipulated and damaged, instead of being forced to pay back every person who bought an eBook between 2010-2013 the price difference they had to pay because of the price fixing, and instead of seeing the executives and lawyers who engineered the conspiracy in jail where they belong, instead you get to publicly throw tantrums about how unfair it is and wind up with the judge all but apologizing, yeesh.

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on August 28, 2013 at 3:44 PM (PDT)

Apple TV adds Vevo, Disney, Weather Channel, Smithsonian channels

The Weather Channel app is a huge FAIL. No radar.

Posted by John Parry Jones on August 27, 2013 at 5:04 PM (PDT)

Apple says DOJ e-book remedies biased toward Amazon

I really need some of what Apple’s lawyers are smoking.

Their *only* penalty is that they are forbidden to do the same thing that they were busted for again, and only for a period of half a decade.

So, evidently in the hallucinatory realm where Apple’s eBook division lives, having to compete with the superior distributors (you know, better prices, better terms for consumers, better platform availability, better user reviews, etc., etc.) is unfair and biased toward those superior distributors.

So, instead of whining like my children about “fairness” in regards to things that have nothing to do with fairness, how about Apple do what they should have done to begin with: Not only make hardware people want to use, but make an eBook distribution system that people want to use in lieu of the competition. Right now there is Sony, B&N, Kobo, and, yes, Amazon, and every one of them offers a much more attractive eBook ecosystem for consumers.

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on August 27, 2013 at 8:14 AM (PDT)

iPhone 5S: 64-bit A7, motion tracking, graphite color?

Unfortunately, it will still come with the Lightning Connector. 

Honestly, has anyone got that thing to work with your current accessories (especially car devices)?

Posted by JonnyOneNote on August 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM (PDT)

Incipio acquires Braven

Hey Jesse Hollington

Interesting! Seems like hardware startups are now being gobbled up similar to whats going on in software. Do you have any more specifics on this deal? For how much? How many people working at each company at the time of sale? Etc?

Aloha…

Posted by Laurens on August 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM (PDT)

DOJ revises proposed Apple e-book price fixing remedy

The reality of this case is that Apple acted as the liaison between the world’s largest 5 publishers to fix prices globally damaging consumers to tune of billions.

That is the same reality that publishing blogs began discussing years ahead of the DOJ case. Trying to make something political out of a black and white, clear as day conspiracy takes a lot of mental gymnastics.

Anyone who defends Apple in this case clearly has a severe case of Stockholm syndrome: Apple’s only goal in this case was their own profits in an industry they previously had exactly zero experience at the expense of their consumers.

The hilarious part is that you act as though Amazon had any monopoly. They had roughly the same market share at their peak for eBooks than Apple has enjoyed for a decade for digitally distributed music. Really, if the DOJ or any government agency was as evil as you baselessly claims purport, Apple’s undue influence on the music industry is what would have been targeted, not the peanuts represented by the eBook industry.

Posted by Code Monkey in Midstate New York on August 26, 2013 at 9:30 AM (PDT)

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