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Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

People, please.  What about the reptile genital issue?

Posted by Mike on June 13, 2003 at 6:25 AM (PDT)

iPod 10GB 2G at BestBuy $199

You’ve never touched LIZARD balls?  Wow, you’re missing out.  I mean, you know what they feel like if you’ve touched the touch sensative pads on these iPods . . .but you really should grab a couple reptile nards just to know how they compare.

Posted by Mike on June 13, 2003 at 6:23 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

The remote looks too big. 2.5 inches in diameter is a lot for a remote that’s only got five buttons.

Posted by riffola on June 13, 2003 at 5:59 AM (PDT)

Dell delays iPod shipping

Hey, everybody here’s my story, I hope it will help someone:

I ordered a 30GB iPod on 5/15, my first ship date was 5/30, my current ship date is 6/20.
I read a thread on iPodding about Dell offerring ADDITIONAL discounts. I called Dell’s 800-624-9897 number on Wednesday 6/11, the CSR offered to “expedite” my iPod. I then politely asked “is there any chance of a discount, since the order date was 5/15?”
CSR asked if I was going to cancel my order without a discount-
I said “No, but the iPod was a ‘graduation’ gift, and it was too bad ‘my son’ did not get it for graduation”
CSR replied that if I did not receive an email in 24 hours that the iPod was shipping, to call back they might be able to give a 15% discount.
Fair enough.
No email, called back today, again inquired on shipping status, nothing new, still back ordered.
So I ask if it is possible to get a discount, relating the ‘graduation gift’ story.

“Would a $100 discount be ok?”
YES!

30 GB iPod $304.00

Posted by BanjoMan on June 13, 2003 at 5:57 AM (PDT)

iPod 10GB 2G at BestBuy $199

down here in tx they only have gen 3 and they don’t even have open boxes so i could check it out

Posted by Phill in Texas on June 13, 2003 at 5:09 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

the romote sockets are different so it cant work with all 1,2,3 ver.

Posted by Phill in Texas on June 13, 2003 at 4:59 AM (PDT)

Play random MP3s on iPod and avoid iTrip files

Is there any software for windows that will create smart playlists in the same manner as iTunes does?....or am I being really dumb and winamp does it anyway?

Posted by thejameater on June 13, 2003 at 4:49 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

Ok, lemme eplain this all. The reason there are different versions for the 2g and 3g is because they have different REMOTE connectors. The 3G has a totally seperate remote connector, that is not aroung the heaphone port at all. The 2G has a ring around the headphone port for the remote, not the seperate connector. And, because this is a remote device, it needs to go through the remote connector. Do Your research Here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61900

Posted by Kewleo on June 13, 2003 at 4:29 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

glorx: I’ve a 3G iPod here, and it has no surrounding connections - just the normal headphone socket with three connections, as on any other bit of audio kit.  It was partly because of the fragility of the concentric connections that Apple replaced it.

Posted by Gidds in UK on June 13, 2003 at 3:58 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

Actually, as far as I know the new headphone jack has exactly the same surrounding connections as the one found on the old 1st and 2nd Gen iPods. The naviPod therefor does NOT use the new remote port found to the side of the headphone port to my knowledge, only the headphone port.

I think the remote port is just so that you can use your “official” remote without all the jumble that older iPod users were faced with when plugging it into the headphone port. It doesn’t mean that the headphone port has lost any outer connectors.

Posted by Cozzie on June 13, 2003 at 3:42 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

If you go to the tentechnology.com site you will see that there are separate models for 2G & 3G iPods. Same features and price.

Posted by glorx on June 13, 2003 at 3:33 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

I thought this would be a wireless remote that would provide an alternative to the current remote provided by apple. I find it too cluttered and restricitng when i am on the go. But at least this remote offers the promise of controlling your ipod from across the room. Still cool, but not exactly the idea I was looking for. I want a wireless remote that can be used on the go to replace the provided remote.

Posted by reorx24 on June 13, 2003 at 2:45 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

When you say ‘headphone port’, do you mean just the 3.5mm jack socket, or the surrounding connections?  The latter were used for the remote control, and on the 3rd-gen they’re in a separate socket to the side. 

And of course, since this is a remote control device, it’ll need to plug into that too, which definitely makes it incompatible with earlier iPods.

Posted by Gidds in UK on June 13, 2003 at 2:40 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

No no - headphone sockets can supply power too! The dock-connector naviPod uses the headphone port for power.

Remember the iTrip? That uses the headphone port for it’s power too (the FW port “thing” was just for stabilisation, so it didn’t spin around).

So, theoretically either version could work on the old iPods, as the old iPod’s headphone port can also supply power. It should also be able to fit perfectly.

I’ve emailed TEN Technology so I’ll try and get a definitive answer by tomorrow.

Posted by Cozzie on June 13, 2003 at 2:33 AM (PDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

So it’s obsolete because a new one was released?

makes no sence. you bought an mp3 player and you got it.

Posted by Luis on June 13, 2003 at 12:53 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

Yes, the headphone socket is unchanged.  But the unit will need to get power from somewhere, too.  The first- and second-generation version used the FireWire port (as mentioned in the press release); the new one must either get it from the remote control port, or from the dock connector underneath - either of which would prevent it working with older iPods.

Of course, the manufacturers can give you a definitive answer, but I’d be extremely surprised if it did work.

Posted by Gidds in UK on June 13, 2003 at 12:52 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

But Andrew, don’t both versions of the naviPod connect using the headphone port - and isn’t the headphone port virtually unchanged from rev 2 to rev 3?

I’ll email them and find out.

Posted by Cozzie on June 13, 2003 at 12:42 AM (PDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

OK.
Firstly, I am quite happy with my Gen2 iPOD. I say ‘quite’ because i believe there is room for improvement.

This is where firmware updates come in. Because the firmware *can be upgraded, if a problem or improvement *can be made, that is not directly related or caused or prevented by a hardware issue, then it can/could (should?) be implemented or fixed. Therefore, because it can be, it is only human nature that people will postulate (even demand)improvements/wishes/upgrades/fixes.

If the firmware was unable to be updated we would have to live with the issues etc of the iPOD. But it can be.

(BTW i believe, Apple’s policy of not telling anyone what they are or aren’t doing (or planning to do), makes people feel that they are being ignored, that their issues/problems are not important).

I am not demanding for my 10gigger to be magically transformed into a *new 10gig by applying a v2 firmware. But I would like my 10gig to be as good as it can be.

I personally would like to see these improvements (regardless of whether the firmware is called v2 or not), in order of preference:

>No more clicks betweens tracks.
>No more gaps between tracks.
>Improved EQ, especially bass boost, i need more wink.
>On the go playlists.

If all the above issues were addressed & fixed i would not care if another firmware upgrade for my iPOD was EVER released. Why would it need one? I don’t want the games etc. I bought it to listen to music…

Until then, even if the above list doesn’t happen, i will continue to use my (slightly imperfect) iPOD every single day, and very happily too.

Just my opinion..

Posted by NC on June 13, 2003 at 12:00 AM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

Cozzie: It’s very unlikely to work with earlier iPods as the 3rd gen. has different connectors: no FireWire on top, and a remote controls socket that’s separate from the headphone socket.

Posted by Gidds in UK on June 12, 2003 at 11:40 PM (PDT)

Play random MP3s on iPod and avoid iTrip files

I’d probably just reduce the number of iTrip tracks. Maybe down to 15? (Some FM tranmsmitters only have 3!) You still have the ability to retune—just pick a broad selection (and include the ones you need in your region) and delete the rest. They’d come up in rotation, but far less often.

I almost exclusively play Smart Playlists anyway—which makes it easy to eliminate the iTrip tracks.

Posted by nagromme on June 12, 2003 at 11:15 PM (PDT)

naviPod Wireless Remote for iPods Announced

Does anyone know if the naviPod for the 3rd Gen iPods works with the 1st and 2nd gen iPods? It’s a lot smaller and I like the design more than the one made for the 2nd Gen iPods and I can’t see any reason as to why it wouldn’t work.

Posted by Cozzie on June 12, 2003 at 10:53 PM (PDT)

iPod 10GB 2G at BestBuy $199

:S sorry ive never touch lizard balls so i cant really say.

Posted by justin on June 12, 2003 at 10:21 PM (PDT)

iPod 10GB 2G at BestBuy $199

Version 2 iPods?  Too bad.  Those have track pads that feel like lizard genitals. I’d rather not have to touch that THANK you very much.
mike

Posted by Mike on June 12, 2003 at 9:04 PM (PDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

Could we all settle down and get back on track here?  The biggest concern with the NEW iPods that nobody seems to be facing is that all the buttons feel like lizard genitals.  I mean, come ON people, I like music as much as the next guy, but why are we being forced to jerk off lizards to listen to it?

I mean, seriously, come on.
For real.
All jokes aside.
Lizard genitals.

Posted by Mike on June 12, 2003 at 9:02 PM (PDT)

Open Letter to Apple Concerning the Mistreatment of Apple Customers

BTW, Rob, I also have no time to spare in doing petty things like this against a big company such as Apple, but I did it with the hopes that people would support it, just as they did with the petition. I’m an artist so I have no time to spare so I thought I’d incorporate my opinion into a piece of art. I’m also highly satirical so there you go. The best of both worlds. I just wish I didn’t have to waste my time on it, because Apple should have worked on this long ago.

Posted by zync on June 12, 2003 at 8:23 PM (PDT)

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