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Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Recently bought a Goodmans GMB20/2 jukebox, 20gb Mp3 etc player, when i tried the lineout on my hifi it required near 100% volume ( PS2 required about 25% ) and so produced a distinct hiss, is low volume a more general problem?

The player was returned and i’ve ordered a 15Gb iPod, if this has the same problem i’m going to buy a nice cheap, low tech, compact cassette player!

Posted by simon on June 18, 2003 at 4:38 PM (CDT)

Bose Announces QuietComfort 2 headphones

No noise cancelling headphones will eliminate speak.  Not enough consistancy in speach, to “hear” and “cancel”  Babies crying consitantly, that works for some reason.  Sounds, constant and loud.  That works too!

As for the new ones, I don’t think they are better.  LOVE the new design, bought them for my GF, but sound seemed inferior to old ones.

Posted by nicholas on June 18, 2003 at 4:18 PM (CDT)

Blitzsafe working with Apple on iPod adapter for car

thanks a bunch, Im gonna go get a RCA/Minijack converter tonight.

Posted by Sam Stringer-Hye on June 18, 2003 at 4:14 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Wow, could we please all be civilized. I’d like to see some constructive arguments. If anybody has links to Apple documentation or independent docs on the subject, please provide the link.

Tony, you say the output level of the earphones do not give the same Amp than what has been registered. what level would that be then?

Trive, you talk about this being on iPod 1.2.2 only. When I look at the About screen on the iPod I see version 2.0. An the updater I downloaded lately from Apple said 1.3?... Which version do I have in your opinion?

A word about Mac lovers. I’m a last year switcher and it took me some time to get into things, but I must say that I really appreciate very very much my Powerbook. I really think it is an extraordinary piece of equipment. I use it now preferrably to my PC. However, I haven’t been disappointed by XP either (which we are deploying at work and which I have on my home desktop).

It is true people should try to simply express their opinion without trying to impose them to others, and we readers have to understand that they are nothing more than personal opinions.

Posted by Christopher on June 18, 2003 at 4:09 PM (CDT)

Blitzsafe working with Apple on iPod adapter for car

If it is an RCA input, you can use an RCA connector with 2 male ends and a 3.5mm jack.  Once it is plugged in, your receiver should recognize it as “AUX” or something like that.

Posted by Marvin Hayag on June 18, 2003 at 3:50 PM (CDT)

Blitzsafe working with Apple on iPod adapter for car

I have a question? In my car I replaced the stock CD Player, with a Pioneer DEH-3400, When I put it in I saw a red and white (RCA) jack on the back of it. I’m not sure if this is input or output, or what the heck it is for. Also if it is for input how would you select it in the menu, because right now you can go to “CD, and Radio” so how would that work. Thanks.

Posted by Sam Stringer-Hye on June 18, 2003 at 3:29 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

I heard rumours of iTrip not working in Europe. Is this true? I find it hard to believe, because how is the FM frequency in Europe different from the one in the USA?

Posted by Daan on June 18, 2003 at 2:43 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Gopher, I sugest that you read up on some basic electronics before coming out with s**t like that!

Just because the iPod’s internal Amp is rated at 106dB, and has been limited to 96dB, does not mean to say that the earphones are giving that much out!

Also, do you KNOW how the dB system works?  I think not, after reading your “post”.

And another point that you have totally missed, is the fact that, if the recording was made at say, a peak level of -1dB, which is common for compressed pop/rock music, then you MIGHT get somewhere near your 96dB figure, but not all music is recorded at the same level.

You try listening to some classical, or other high quality recordings first.  THEN come back and read your mindless drivel, after you have found out that setting the volume control to 100% is not enough to hear most quiet passages of classical music, especially whilst out and about.

Do some more research before “contributing”! Fool

Posted by Tony on June 18, 2003 at 1:50 PM (CDT)

iSkin for iPod 5GB and 10GB for $10

no im not…just a wise consumer…nice try though….deflection

Posted by robert on June 18, 2003 at 1:43 PM (CDT)

VW Audio Interface Adapter

Is this passthrough cable made specifically for VW automobiles? Do you have a part number?

Posted by Jeremy on June 18, 2003 at 1:42 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

The volume cap is like 8 decibles from 104 and 96 if I remember correctly.  Goodness, that’s louder than a vacuum cleaner.  Anyone listening at louder than 90 decibels is risking hearing loss if listening at that loudness for extended periods of time.  If the complaint is that it isn’t loud enough and you are listening at louder than 90 decibels, fine, don’t complain to Apple when you need to buy a hearing aid, or furthermore, learn sign language.  To learn what decible levels are safe, visit:

http://www.planet-stuff.freeserve.co.uk/Standards/SoundLevels.htm

Posted by gopher on June 18, 2003 at 1:36 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

yourmom—before you flame someone how about doing a little more research first.

Had you done so you would realize that the iTrip gets ALL of it’s power via the headphone jack!!!!  There is NO Firewire connection.  This is obvious upon inspection and ALSO stated in the owner’s manual!!!

I speculated that the reason it may not work with the new iPod because of software differences.  You see, the software in the IPod signals the selected transmit frequency to the iTrip via the headphone jack (this is essentially a “song” of sorts that the iTrip listens for).  I don’t know if the new iPods would do this the same way.

Now let’s relax and listen to some nice music :)

Posted by Tom on June 18, 2003 at 1:04 PM (CDT)

Blitzsafe working with Apple on iPod adapter for car

It’s called humor…

Posted by mp on June 18, 2003 at 12:53 PM (CDT)

VW Audio Interface Adapter

Current VW owners with the changer attached can buy from radio shack an inexpensive RCA passthrough cable with an
1/8” stereo plug at one end and the RCA passthrough at the other.  The iPod signal will mostly silence the CD’s playback, but you can still hear the CD at high volumes.
I just created a 60 minute silent audio CD for the iPod.
That said, way to go Ed.  Great idea.

Posted by dave on June 18, 2003 at 12:35 PM (CDT)

Dell delays iPod shipping

opps… i meant to say i ordered may 14th.  i dont see why people that ordered the 15th and later got it shipped before me.

Posted by yourmom on June 18, 2003 at 12:14 PM (CDT)

Dell delays iPod shipping

i beat you all.  i ordered may 15th!!!! mine is still backordered.  what the fuck

Posted by yourmom on June 18, 2003 at 12:12 PM (CDT)

Griffin iTrip FM Transmitter for iPod: $32.95

tom, you are very wrong about the itrip. 
first the itrip doesnt work with the new ipods because the new ipods dont have the firewire plug at the top.  apple has made a new port at the bottom.  also, your statement:

“There are two platic tabs that fit into the firewire hole, but these just keep the iTrip aligned with the iPod.”

lol, the reason it plugs into the firewire is because thats where it gets its power from.  it uses the ipods battery, they dont just do it to keep it aligned, lol.

Posted by yourmom on June 18, 2003 at 12:04 PM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Volume down is true only on touchpad-wheel ipods (2g ipods), the ones who have 1.2.2.

Apple told costumers about the volume-down only if you update from version version 1.2 to 1.2.2.

Posted by trive on June 18, 2003 at 11:53 AM (CDT)

iSkin for iPod 5GB and 10GB for $10

Sorry that you think so Robert are you one of our competitors?

Posted by Lajo Cymbalski on June 18, 2003 at 11:22 AM (CDT)

Blitzsafe working with Apple on iPod adapter for car

Be so kind and provide us with the name of general area where you drive. Just to make sure I never drive that way. Thanks.

PS: I also avoid all of you cell phone drivers. What idiots.

Posted by pbox on June 18, 2003 at 11:19 AM (CDT)

iSkin for iPod 5GB and 10GB for $10

wow…that site really stinks….makes no sense….

why would we trust you with an email order….when you cant even get your site in order…or sync up the the thinkdifferent store?

Posted by robert on June 18, 2003 at 11:17 AM (CDT)

Blitzsafe working with Apple on iPod adapter for car

I don’t trust one word responses… ;)

Posted by contagion in FL USA on June 18, 2003 at 9:55 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

I have to say that I really have a strong disliking towards most of the long-term Apple “customers”.  They have an arrogence that is just breathtaking.  They give Apple a bad name, with their attitude of put up, or shut up.  And by being like that, help Apple get away with things that most companies can only dream of trying.

Why people get like that is beyond me.

My way of thinking is that when you pay your money, regardless of the manufacturer or retailler, and especially when the the item is only designed to do one thing, if it fails in that task, then the item is usless.  And should be fixed, or at worst, refunded.

I am a first time Apple buyer, and I don’t think I will ever trust them again.  And certainly, will not be buying anything else from them in the futre.

I for one, will be gob-smacked, if Apple actually fix most of the problems with the 3rd gen iPod, and there is quite a list of “bugs” that need addressing!

Posted by Tony on June 18, 2003 at 8:24 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Hum, I’ve had my new 15Gb iPod for two days only, and did not know about this issue. Now I understand why, from the very first song I listened to, I had to put my volume near 95%.

I think I’ll try to get the earplugs mentioned above.

Posted by Christopher on June 18, 2003 at 4:52 AM (CDT)

Warning: Don't buy an European iPod, its volume is too low

Okay, first up, my hearing is fine. I don’t have problems hearing any other source and my other portable equipment is fine at about 3/4 volume. Usually just under.

However, my docking iPod isn not fine. I can mostly manage with it at full volume but if there are any slightly quiet songs, I can’t hear them and I just can’t use the EQ function at all because if the volume is okay on the MP3, it becomes distorted when I use the EQ setting.

Here’s another good example. I put the iPod through my computer speakers. To get a decent volume out of them I have to put the iPod on full volume AND the PC speakers.

If I do the same with my CD Walkman, it’s deafening! My old solidstate MP3 player was fine volume wise.

All Apple need to do is have one extra setting in the Settings menu to have the volume cap on or off. It’s just a firmware upgrade not rocket science! As for costing more to test it, that’s just tough! They shouldn’t be selling the thing if it’s deficient.

 

Posted by Nomad01 in England on June 18, 2003 at 3:00 AM (CDT)

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